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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 6:46:18 GMT -5
Looks like the Paris climate section has been vandalised, no box there anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 8:02:26 GMT -5
On the Climate of London wiki page it says this, obviously written by someone who has never been to London as it is not the case at all. Overcast skies are rare, and most rain is not misty or frequent (any more so than most other temperate cities). I think it was Cambium who was moaning in spring about so many overcast days in a row, and it was more than we would ever get even in the middle of winter.
"there are long periods of overcast skies and frequent light mist-type precipitation, which is likely responsible for the rainy image of the city."
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Post by Babu on Jan 16, 2018 8:06:25 GMT -5
I prefer Paris' temps for most of the year, but their heatwaves in summer suck. Wish it were more stable like London
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Post by nei on Jan 16, 2018 8:08:25 GMT -5
I prefer Paris' temps for most of the year, but their heatwaves in summer suck. Wish it were more stable like London Berlin had a high around 15 maybe colder in July when I visited; a couple days before, 2 days of 35. That instability was annoying though the heat wasn’t normal
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Post by knot on Jan 16, 2018 8:09:31 GMT -5
On the Climate of London wiki page it says this, obviously written by someone who has never been to London as it is not the case at all. Overcast skies are rare, and most rain is not misty or frequent (any more so than most other temperate cities). "there are long periods of overcast skies and frequent light mist-type precipitation, which is likely responsible for the rainy image of the city." Aye, because 1600 hrs annually is sunny... Easthomo and Wilko would be proud!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 8:11:05 GMT -5
Most days record at least a few hours of sun, even in winter. Overcast skies are rare, but mostly cloudy and broken cloud are common, partly cloudy is most common in summer.
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Post by knot on Jan 16, 2018 8:15:36 GMT -5
Most days record at least a few hours of sun, even in winter. Overcast skies are rare, but mostly cloudy and broken cloud are common, partly cloudy is most common in summer. Ah, yes. London's Summers have quite a bit of sun. The winters bring down the annual mean tremendously, however. Despite sunny summers, I would not deem London as "sunny" in the slightest; the rest of the year counts, too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 8:24:43 GMT -5
Most days record at least a few hours of sun, even in winter. Overcast skies are rare, but mostly cloudy and broken cloud are common, partly cloudy is most common in summer. Ah, yes. London's Summers have quite a bit of sun. The winters bring down the annual mean tremendously, however. Despite sunny summers, I would not deem London as "sunny" in the slightest; the rest of the year counts, too. I never said it was sunny, but it isn't always overcast when there are only about 40 overcast days per year. It's usually a mix of sun and cloud rather than full sun or full cloud.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 8:39:09 GMT -5
Most days from October to April definitely have a gloomy character to them.
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Post by nei on Jan 16, 2018 9:42:52 GMT -5
On the Climate of London wiki page it says this, obviously written by someone who has never been to London as it is not the case at all. Overcast skies are rare, and most rain is not misty or frequent (any more so than most other temperate cities). I think it was Cambium who was moaning in spring about so many overcast days in a row, and it was more than we would ever get even in the middle of winter. He was moaning because it's not usual here; we are prone to stuck lows on the north Atlantic that cause stretches of overcast weather in spring. But overall, our number of overcast days in total is less than London, probably far less. England does seem to be better at mixing its sun and clouds than some other temperate climates of similar sunshine.
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Post by Giorbanguly on Jan 16, 2018 20:20:33 GMT -5
Heaviest defeats are often to very similar climates. In London vs Paris you're basically putting London up against a very similar climate, but a similar climate that is basically an upgraded London. Paris is a much more agreeable climate for most people. Cold lovers prefer Paris and its ability to get more powerful cold waves. Heat lovers prefer Paris for its warmer summers and sunshine
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 5:27:46 GMT -5
Heaviest defeats are often to very similar climates. In London vs Paris you're basically putting London up against a very similar climate, but a similar climate that is basically an upgraded London. Paris is a much more agreeable climate for most people. Cold lovers prefer Paris and its ability to get more powerful cold waves. Heat lovers prefer Paris for its warmer summers and sunshine The sunshine difference between London and Paris is not noticeable. London is actually sunnier Apr-Jun. I remember dhdh saying that Paris is either sunny or overcast, while London always has a mix of sun and cloud on the same day.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 5:33:11 GMT -5
Heaviest defeats are often to very similar climates. In London vs Paris you're basically putting London up against a very similar climate, but a similar climate that is basically an upgraded London. Paris is a much more agreeable climate for most people. Cold lovers prefer Paris and its ability to get more powerful cold waves. Heat lovers prefer Paris for its warmer summers and sunshine True, although the sunshine comparison is a bit of a stretch. Similar to the point where it wouldn't be noticeable.
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Post by longaotian on Jan 17, 2018 5:41:34 GMT -5
@b87, just becasue a day records some sunshine it doesn't mean it's not overcast the rest of the day
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 5:48:51 GMT -5
@b87, just becasue a day records some sunshine it doesn't mean it's not overcast the rest of the day But most winter days have passing sun and cloud all day and would be classed as mostly cloudy, not overcast. Paris, Vancouver and Seattle all record more overcast days than London.
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Post by longaotian on Jan 17, 2018 5:50:49 GMT -5
@b87 , just becasue a day records some sunshine it doesn't mean it's not overcast the rest of the day But most winter days have passing sun and cloud all day and would be classed as mostly cloudy, not overcast. Not nice. I would rather have some days with full overcast and rain and then some days completely clear
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 5:56:03 GMT -5
Irlinit also discovered issues with Heathrow's sun recorder, where hours of sunshine are not recorded despite days being clear and sunny from sunrise to sunset. Days in winter getting 4 hrs when it's been clear for 8 hrs, or summer days only recording 10-12 instead of 13-15 hrs.
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Post by Babu on Jan 17, 2018 6:00:48 GMT -5
Irlinit also discovered issues with Heathrow's sun recorder, where hours of sunshine are not recorded despite days being clear and sunny from sunrise to sunset. Days in winter getting 4 hrs when it's been clear for 8 hrs, or summer days only recording 10-12 instead of 13-15 hrs. London is geographically pretty large though, so if there are clouds south of London, they night block the low sun for Heathrow even though they're barely even visiblr in northern or eastern parts of the city.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 6:03:05 GMT -5
Irlinit also discovered issues with Heathrow's sun recorder, where hours of sunshine are not recorded despite days being clear and sunny from sunrise to sunset. Days in winter getting 4 hrs when it's been clear for 8 hrs, or summer days only recording 10-12 instead of 13-15 hrs. London is geographically pretty large though, so if there are clouds south of London, they night block the low sun for Heathrow even though they're barely even visiblr in northern or eastern parts of the city. It would be interesting to see the data from Kew Gardens, which isn't that far from Heathrow and as far as I know, still uses a CS recorder vs Heathrow's KZ. South coast locations over the last 10 years have averaged around 1900-2000 hrs, while Heathrow has only averaged 1500.
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Post by Babu on Jan 17, 2018 6:07:38 GMT -5
I thought Heathrow was the cherry picked sunniest station in England too lol
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