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Post by knot on Mar 24, 2018 17:22:17 GMT -5
Two elevated climates at high latitudes, both one of the coldest towns within their respective countries. So I thought to meself; why not have a climate battle? My answer is plainly Ranfurly; owing to its higher diurnals, better heat, greater sunshine, more turbulent winds and for being more exciting in general. In spite of its cooler winter means, most of Ranfurly's cold derives from its sub-freezing lows—much unlike Buxton and its slightly cooler highs due to cloud cover. Buxton, Derbyshire, United Kingdom; 307 m AMSL; 53° 15' 32.76" N.
 Ranfurly, Central Otago, New Zealand; 430 m AMSL; 45° 7' 43.32" S.
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Post by alex992 on Mar 24, 2018 17:39:39 GMT -5
Ranfurly for being generally more interesting, even though Buxton's precipitation amount is more to my liking.
That -26 C record low in July looks random compared to the other two winter months. Must have been one hell of a cold wave.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 24, 2018 18:01:43 GMT -5
Ranfurly could take a victory lap in reverse and do some backflips and still come up on top against abysmal Buxton.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 18:52:18 GMT -5
Buxton has more thunderstorm activity and snow. Otherwise Ranfurly is better in most things except overnight summer overnight lows.
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Post by knot on Mar 24, 2018 18:54:38 GMT -5
Buxton has more thunderstorm activity and snow. Otherwise Ranfurly is better in most things except overnight summer overnight lows. For real now?! Seems rather unlikely. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 18:56:33 GMT -5
Going by lightning density yes (I used a NASA lightning density chart). England can get pretty decent thunderstorms - including Buxton. NZ south island often gets only 2-3 thunder days a year in southern towns/cities.
It seems unlikely with the higher latitude but in reality it's because we have the European continent south of us, lots of storms come from there. NZ has more maritime influence.
Still I'm giving the vote to Ranfurly just because it's more comfortable for me and sunnier. Buxton is too cloudy with crap maximum temperatures.
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Post by knot on Mar 24, 2018 19:00:20 GMT -5
True that. I often compare Britain's polar latitude to that of the Southern Ocean...my mistake!
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Post by Cadeau on Mar 24, 2018 19:06:10 GMT -5
Going by lightning density yes (I used a NASA lightning density chart). England can get pretty decent thunderstorms - including Buxton. NZ south island often gets only 2-3 thunder days a year in southern towns/cities. It seems unlikely with the higher latitude but in reality it's because we have the European continent south of us, lots of storms come from there. NZ has more maritime influence. Still I'm giving the vote to Ranfurly just because it's more comfortable for me and sunnier. Buxton is too cloudy with crap maximum temperatures. Okay, was hesitating to choose before reading this. I'd go for Ranfurly. |
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Post by Beercules on Mar 24, 2018 19:44:43 GMT -5
Ranfurly's lows are plain comical, but no doubt gets far more sun. And the warmer summers win it for me.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 24, 2018 21:05:05 GMT -5
Ranfurly's lows are plain comical, but no doubt gets far more sun. And the warmer summers win it for me. Not to mention higher record highs in every single corresponding month (taking the hemisphere swap into account). I guess neither can escape E- on your scale though, correct? |
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 24, 2018 21:46:07 GMT -5
Ranfurly by far. Drier, sunnier, warmer summers. It’s a solid D, Buxton is an F-.
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Post by Beercules on Mar 24, 2018 22:52:19 GMT -5
Ranfurly's lows are plain comical, but no doubt gets far more sun. And the warmer summers win it for me. Not to mention higher record highs in every single corresponding month (taking the hemisphere swap into account). I guess neither can escape E- on your scale though, correct? Ranfurly would be maybe an E+ while Buxton an E. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 7:38:01 GMT -5
In terms of grades, Ranfurly is a E+ for me, Buxton perhaps E-.
I reserve F- for climates which at least pose a threat to human life much of the time - silly to give Buxton that rating, maybe somewhere like Torshavn at a stretch, but mostly for places with very cold winters like Vladivostok or ridiculous summers like Death Valley.
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Post by knot on Mar 25, 2018 7:43:46 GMT -5
10-0 in favour of Ranfurly. Fucken raped!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 7:45:39 GMT -5
10-0 in favour of Ranfurly. Fucken raped! Gave Buxton a sympathy vote  |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 25, 2018 12:04:11 GMT -5
Ranfurly is the clear victor here. Looks pretty pleasant actually!
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Post by chesternz on Mar 26, 2018 1:12:41 GMT -5
Ranfurly for more sun and warmer summers. Having six months with fewer than 100 sunshine hours each would be unbearable. I would guess that Ranfurly has around 2000 sunshine hours. Paging rwood2! Ranfurly for being generally more interesting, even though Buxton's precipitation amount is more to my liking. That -26 C record low in July looks random compared to the other two winter months. Must have been one hell of a cold wave. That's actually the national record low and was recorded in 1903. It is indeed anomalous - consider that the record low of Alexandra (about 50 miles inland of Ranfurly) is -11 C / 12 F. Ranfurly's elevation isn't particularly high either. Article about the event here: i.stuff.co.nz/environment/5270028/New-Zealands-new-record-coldest-day |
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Post by alex992 on Mar 26, 2018 11:03:56 GMT -5
^ Interesting! What's the topography like around Ranfurly? Must be some sort of frost hollow?
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Post by aabc123 on Apr 2, 2018 6:59:37 GMT -5
I voted for that NZ place because of less rain and higher highs in summer months. Buxton is too cloudy as well although there is no sun hrs information for the NZ location. I hope the reference periods are same |
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Post by Donar on Apr 3, 2018 13:31:34 GMT -5
Ranfurly. The lows outside of winter are the only superior feature of Buxton.
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