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Post by Steelernation on Mar 8, 2019 15:17:36 GMT -5
Wet summers are better than wet winters.
That said wet summers suck too
-summer is time for being outdoors and backpacking and hiking and fishing and ideally I wouldn’t have to worry about the weather
-wet summers usually mean humidity and I hate humidity
-wet summers are usually more stable which is boring
-wet means lush and in summer I don’t want lush
Wet springs are by far the best. Change my mind on that...
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Post by Wildcat on Mar 8, 2019 15:22:48 GMT -5
That’s every summer of my life and I love it. Very grim to be honest Yet more sun than any month in Melbourne. Florida summers are fucken epic. |
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Post by jgtheone on Mar 8, 2019 20:18:38 GMT -5
Yet more sun than any month in Melbourne. Florida summers are fucken epic. It's rare to get a ton of sun and rain in the same month, more often than not rainy summers around the world are cloudy. That's why I go for dry summers all the time because even if you do get a cloudy day you can still do stuff |
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Post by Morningrise on Mar 9, 2019 9:48:27 GMT -5
Indeed, summer is a time for thunderstorms, high heat/humidity, and lush vegetation. And like you said, you don't need much precipitation to get lots of snow. Dry summers and summer high pressure can fuck off to hell where they belong. Agreed 100%! I love the wet summer/dry winter precipitation pattern here, growing up with it directly shaped my preference for it. When I lived in Vancouver the reverse pattern was one of my least favorite thing about the climate there. |
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Post by alex992 on Mar 9, 2019 9:55:05 GMT -5
I think people exaggerate how "bad" wet summers are, especially in a place like South FL or continental climates where summer is wet season. Yes, some place like south and east Asia is quite cloudy in summer, but in the other places mentioned summer thunderstorms are convectional and short, most of the day is quite sunny. Trust me, there's no shortage of sun in south FL during the summer, not to mention the quality (strength) of the sun there.
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Post by omegaraptor on Mar 9, 2019 11:37:26 GMT -5
Dry winters are gross. Wet winters are far better. As for summer, I’m fine with both.
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Post by knot on Mar 9, 2019 14:26:26 GMT -5
Why not have both? - a summer drying trend, which still has good summer rainfall Aye! Just like my dream climate, as well as my own climate.  |
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Post by knot on Mar 9, 2019 15:45:52 GMT -5
Your climate gets similar summer rainfall to mine, although on more days.Summer rainfall is just awesome-dry = boring. Which climate box you looking at? The Anglers Reach climate box doesn't have precipitation days. Perhaps you're looking at Cabramurra, Kiandra, or Thredbo Village. |
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Post by knot on Mar 9, 2019 15:59:52 GMT -5
Wrong region, matey.  That's where I was for much of last year...now, I'm back home. |
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Post by ral31 on Mar 9, 2019 21:16:23 GMT -5
Indeed, summer is a time for thunderstorms, high heat/humidity, and lush vegetation. And like you said, you don't need much precipitation to get lots of snow. Dry summers and summer high pressure can fuck off to hell where they belong. Yeah summer drought is pretty useless. Summer afternoons here are generally too hot to enjoy outdoor activities so there might as well be t-storms. Frequent t-storms keep things interesting during summer and make evenings cooler. Dry spells bring even more oppressive heat than normal. Though I don't really want excessive summer rainfall, as that would make vegetable gardening difficult. I like a good amount of precip in winter too from occasional storm systems and heavy rain events, but I also like periods of clear skies with cold temps. I think that drier than typical winters here could possibly be more conducive to strong winter cold snaps and snow. Winter 2013-14 was the 9th driest on record, and there were multiple winter weather events (snow accumulated twice). During winter 2017-18 snow accumulated twice as well (Dec 8 and Jan 16) - the first half of winter was dry and the preceding fall was the 2nd driest on record. It also got down to 13F on Jan 18, 2018. |
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Post by Ethereal on Apr 16, 2022 23:31:42 GMT -5
Again, excuse the bump, but these threads are interesting.
I do not like either overly wet or dry summers (both are as extreme as the other). But if a summer has to be wet then the winter should be rather dry to compensate things. I do prefer nice dry winters, but a the same time I am not a huge fan of wet summers. That's why I prefer equal amount of rainfall throughout the seasons, with a peak in shoulder seasons.
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Post by firebird1988 on Apr 17, 2022 10:45:49 GMT -5
I think people exaggerate how "bad" wet summers are, especially in a place like South FL or continental climates where summer is wet season. Yes, some place like south and east Asia is quite cloudy in summer, but in the other places mentioned summer thunderstorms are convectional and short, most of the day is quite sunny. Trust me, there's no shortage of sun in south FL during the summer, not to mention the quality (strength) of the sun there. South FL summers are on par with Hong Kong or Vietnam, 70s dews and relatively constant rain 🤮 |
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Post by firebird1988 on Apr 17, 2022 10:46:37 GMT -5
I don't mind wet winters, because I'm typically inside during winter anyways. But wet (and especially humid) summers blow
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Post by AJ1013 on Apr 17, 2022 10:49:40 GMT -5
I think people exaggerate how "bad" wet summers are, especially in a place like South FL or continental climates where summer is wet season. Yes, some place like south and east Asia is quite cloudy in summer, but in the other places mentioned summer thunderstorms are convectional and short, most of the day is quite sunny. Trust me, there's no shortage of sun in south FL during the summer, not to mention the quality (strength) of the sun there. South FL summers are on par with Hong Kong or Vietnam, 70s dews and relatively constant rain 🤮 South Florida summers are infinitely better than Phoenix summers. 88/78 with a 50% chance of storms vs 107/85 with a 10% chance of storms. I know which one I’m picking. I’m also pretty sure hong kong and vietnam are significantly rainier and cloudier than SFL in the summer. |
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Post by firebird1988 on Apr 17, 2022 12:31:03 GMT -5
South FL summers are on par with Hong Kong or Vietnam, 70s dews and relatively constant rain 🤮 South Florida summers are infinitely better than Phoenix summers. 88/78 with a 50% chance of storms vs 107/85 with a 10% chance of storms. I know which one I’m picking. I’m also pretty sure hong kong and vietnam are significantly rainier and cloudier than SFL in the summer. Believe it or not, summer is the sunny season in Hong Kong and northern Vietnam, despite being the wet season. South Vietnam is cloudier in summer I think, but HK is notorious for being socked in with clouds in the winter despite little to no rainfall |
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Post by firebird1988 on Apr 17, 2022 12:32:16 GMT -5
South Florida summers are infinitely better than Phoenix summers. 88/78 with a 50% chance of storms vs 107/85 with a 10% chance of storms. I know which one I’m picking. I’m also pretty sure hong kong and vietnam are significantly rainier and cloudier than SFL in the summer. Believe it or not, summer is the sunny season in Hong Kong and northern Vietnam, despite being the wet season. South Vietnam is cloudier in summer I think, but HK is notorious for being socked in with clouds in the winter despite little to no rainfall And besides, it's only at the immediate coast and the barrier islands where South FL has an average Aug high of 88°F, MIA has an average high of 91°F that month |
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Post by Metsfan257 on Apr 17, 2022 17:31:26 GMT -5
Imagine finally having summer break only for it to rain every second day LMAO This! Could not have said it better myself! 
Metsfan's 10 Commandments for why wet summers Fucking Suck and why wet winters are Amazing!
1. Summer is for being outdoors, and rain ruins those activities a. Ever had to cancel a hiking trip, baseball game, or day at the beach/pool due to summer rain? 
b. Ever had to cancel a whole vacation (and lose $$$ in the process) due to a hurricane?
2. Warm rain is uncomfortable as fuck
3. High humidity is uncomfortable as fuck
4. Mosquitos are uncomfortable as fuck
5. Wet summers are bad for the economy, as they destroy the tourism industry and deprive millions of jobs a. Do you ever hear of anyone jetting off in summer to the beaches and sunshine of Tianjin, Darwin, Tokyo, or Hong Kong? NO!
b. I do hear of people jetting off to the beaches of Greece, Italy, SoCal, and Perth however!
c. Areas with wet summers have on average lower GDP per capita and lower life expectancy than Mediterranean climates
6. Wet summers are known to produce highly oppressive and terrible societies a. Totalitarian dicktatorships are common in places with wet summers, China and Cuba for example
b. Most of Africa has wet summers, and is poor, while the part that does not is more developed c. On average, countries with wet summers score lower in democracy index 7. Europe is the prime example of the superiority of Mediterranean climates, and inferiority of dry winters/wet summers a. Méditérranique Greece is the birthplace of democracy, while monsoonal Russia breeds dicktatorship and war
b. Western Europe, with its dry summers and wet winters, is rich and free
c. Eastern Europe, with its relatively wet summers, is relatively poor and unfree
8. Mediterranean climates breed life, while wet summers breed depression
a. People live much longer in Mediterranean climates, like Spain, Italy, and Greece b. People get depressed, offing themselves and drinking to death in wet summers like Japan, Korea, and Russia
c. People are fatter in wet summer zones, just compare the US South and Midwest to the US West Coast
d. Wondering why? Well, it's tough to work out outside when it's raining or unbearably humid
9. Winters should be lush and green, while the grass should go golden brown in summer
10. Especially in cold winter climates, wet summers are a waste of the only comfortable season. This is SINFUL!
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Post by Cheeseman on Apr 17, 2022 17:39:43 GMT -5
Metsfan2571. Generally agreed 2. Cold rain at like 4 C is worse though 3. True, though my humidity tolerance is pretty high - 21+ C dew points suck though 4. Strewth! Fuck those bastards! 5. Counterpoints: Cancun, Miami, Dominican Republic, Fiji, Puerto Vallarta, etc. 6. Correlation, sure, but not causation 7. You harp on and on about freedom and democracy, and yet support covax mandates...  8. Norway, Iceland, Costa Rica, etc. would like a word with you 9. Grass should be green ALL year 10. High rainfall averages also don't necessitate rain every day - 6" of rain on 6 rain days, the rest being dry and sunny, wouldn't be bad at all
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Post by Metsfan257 on Apr 17, 2022 18:13:37 GMT -5
Metsfan257 1. Generally agreed 2. Cold rain at like 4 C is worse though 3. True, though my humidity tolerance is pretty high - 21+ C dew points suck though 4. Strewth! Fuck those bastards! 5. Counterpoints: Cancun, Miami, Dominican Republic, Fiji, Puerto Vallarta, etc. 6. Correlation, sure, but not causation 7. You harp on and on about freedom and democracy, and yet support covax mandates...  8. Norway, Iceland, Costa Rica, etc. would like a word with you 9. Grass should be green ALL year 10. High rainfall averages also don't necessitate rain every day - 6" of rain on 6 rain days, the rest being dry and sunny, wouldn't be bad at all I no longer support vaccine mandates. That's my position from, like, June 2021. As I don't have any more restrictions, I could care less now. Also, I think the tourism part I mentioned applies only to temperate areas. This due to the fact that a tropical, wet summer climate usually has dry winters to capture tourist demand.
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Post by Metsfan257 on Jun 20, 2022 18:46:29 GMT -5
Saw this map earlier today on social media, and thought of this thread. Just more evidence pointing to the true superiority of the Mediterranean precipitation pattern as well as subtropical climates more generally. Notice that Mediterranean Europe has far lower rates of people offing themselves. This further reinforces the idea that humans are not built for cold climates, and thrive in ones with rainy winters and dry summers. In addition, as Italy has one of the lowest off yourself rates in Europe, it refutes Benfxmth delusional point of view that Rome is a shitty depressing climate. |
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