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Post by Lommaren on Mar 11, 2019 14:57:59 GMT -5
I sure can, when I'm done with Abbotsford that I'm currently working on, but I can start later tonight  |
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 11, 2019 15:38:44 GMT -5
Lommaren finally picking more temperate climates (definitely saw Vancouver, which is quite decent but has a bit lower diurnals and an autumn that is chillier than preferred)! Well, doing a bunch of Canadian climates is on average going to lead to a lot chillier winters than France... let's see what you'll think of this one though! Mediterranean Abbotsford now with extensive summer heat waves and a precipitation pattern that could easily have it classified as a Csb. Here are the 1981-2010 normals.
Either way, here's Abbotsford for this century and it's clearly a warmer-summer one, although winters haven't really changed much. As a result, snowfall totals have only slightly decreased, but are still more than two decimetres higher than Vancouver's seaside station. Thoughts on this one 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 and rpvan perhaps moving inland would be a lot better? 
Also, I reckon knot will find a ton of flaws in this one, although the wet snow might be of interest? |
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Post by tij on Mar 11, 2019 15:47:55 GMT -5
Lommaren I would give it an A/A-. My main critique here would be that November is still chilly and excessively wet (I prefer more of the new england/maritime lag pattern to the Pacific northwestern one).Otherwise it looks lovely (maybe a touch wet in winter and a smidgen dry in July and August), and definitely tijesque!
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Post by knot on Mar 11, 2019 15:51:33 GMT -5
Lommaren Böke; too much cold rain in winter (poor snow ratio), as well as muggy stable summers.
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Post by tij on Mar 11, 2019 16:00:55 GMT -5
Lommaren Böke; too much cold rain in winter (poor snow ratio), as well as muggy stable summers. Muggy? Seriously? Do you not see how cool and refreshing those nights are? I'm virtually certain those heatwaves would be dry and not humid-- the Pacific northwest lacks a source for subtropical humid airmasses in general. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 11, 2019 16:03:13 GMT -5
Abbotsford suuuuuuuucks.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 11, 2019 16:03:56 GMT -5
Care to elaborate?  Even relative to Vancouver? |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 11, 2019 17:13:18 GMT -5
Care to elaborate? Even relative to Vancouver? It is not significantly different and sometimes the outflow winds prevent snow from falling, while Vancouver scores. But they do have their moments too. |
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 12, 2019 9:14:51 GMT -5
Bella Coola 2002-2018 ( the 1981-2010 normals here):  Due to Environment Canada always shifting stations for this one, it was rather tricky to get it done, but here it is! This is how I'd imagine fiord climates would've looked like had Denmark and Northern Germany been shaped like Norway is. Bella Coola is at 53°N some 120 km inland from the open sea linked by fiords and the airport station is a further 9 km inland in a valley setting. The record high that was set in 2009 is also rather remarkable, that day saw a 41.2/15.0 diurnal! Anyway thoughts on this one Nidaros , doesn't it look quite a lot like a warmed-up Western Norwegian climate? It makes me wonder what Western Canada would look like without the Rockies and how far inland the maritime influence would stretch. This one is similar to Copenhagen for temperatures after all, and just 2° farther south. Also, knot , is this one to your liking a lot more than cold desert Denmark and South Sweden? 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 , best coastal-ish climate in BC? tij , do you like this one? |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 12, 2019 9:54:21 GMT -5
I like it. Not sure if Terrace is better though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 11:20:52 GMT -5
 norway's rainiest place. |
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Post by tij on Mar 12, 2019 11:35:34 GMT -5
Lommaren it's a bit too chilly for my tastes, so maybe a B/B-? The winters seem German grade, so acceptable, and summer is pleasant, but the problem is that the transitions (mainly fall, as I dont mind a chilly spring) become too cool for my taste (southeast new England autumns have spoilt me!). It has good annual precip, but on the snowier side of my preferences. I'd consider taking this to Hamburg if sunshine was acceptable, but suspect the latter has probably warmed as well. It's definitely better than Poland tho likely for the most part, with wetter, milder, winters.
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Post by knot on Mar 12, 2019 15:28:00 GMT -5
Lommaren Spectacular climate; A, closely straddling A+. Beautiful winters, and variable (albeit mild) summers.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 12, 2019 15:29:41 GMT -5
Lommaren Spectacular climate; A, closely straddling A+. Beautiful winters, and variable (albeit mild) summers. Nice way to make a 3,000th post too? |
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 12, 2019 17:48:13 GMT -5
Saguenay 2002-2018, less cold in general, with a bit warmer summers and less snowfall compared to the 1981-2010 normals: Thoughts knot and 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿? It definitely looks interesting, but the winter cold is still too much for me, but summers are definitely alright! |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 12, 2019 18:03:26 GMT -5
Near perfect on all fronts. I would complain about the slightly long length of winter though.
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Post by Nidaros on Mar 12, 2019 18:25:02 GMT -5
Bella Coola 2002-2018 This is how I'd imagine fiord climates would've looked like had Denmark and Northern Germany been shaped like Norway is. Bella Coola is at 53°N some 120 km inland from the open sea linked by fiords and the airport station is a further 9 km inland in a valley setting. The record high that was set in 2009 is also rather remarkable, that day saw a 41.2/15.0 diurnal! Anyway thoughts on this one Nidaros , doesn't it look quite a lot like a warmed-up Western Norwegian climate? It makes me wonder what Western Canada would look like without the Rockies and how far inland the maritime influence would stretch. This one is similar to Copenhagen for temperatures after all, and just 2° farther south. Also, knot , is this one to your liking a lot more than cold desert Denmark and South Sweden? 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 , best coastal-ish climate in BC? tij , do you like this one? Well it’s colder than Bergen & Stavanger from mid-Oct to Jan. Lows are colder pretty much the whole year. So it’s the highs that are warmer. |
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 12, 2019 19:25:44 GMT -5
Lommaren how do you make these so fast? I can do this easily from NOWDATA but outside the US it looks like it would take forever.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 12, 2019 20:25:28 GMT -5
Lommaren how do you make these so fast? I can do this easily from NOWDATA but outside the US it looks like it would take forever. Excel, focus, commitment and a steady template. This is still child's play compared to the days when I did stuff in Sweden similar to this with a calculator in Word. Also, this March has been a complete weather disaster so I'm not outdoors as much as I could've been.
Usually it takes 1.5-2 hours.
This one is Saguenay:
It all adds up in the template and divides by 17 (or less if a year of data for a month is inconclusive/missing, which does happen). At the moment I'm doing one in coastal British Columbia, but after that I intend to hit some climates on the Chinook avenue, which I'm sure you'll be interested in!
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 13, 2019 6:46:57 GMT -5
This is one near the Pacific at 54°N I'm sure will have 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 and knot rather enthusiastic Am I right about that? It's a bit warmer than 1981-2010 but still enough for winter to show up. August was actually narrowly warmer for overall means than July with 21.72/11.74 versus 21.73/11.70, but it's still rather unique to have those two months end up that close. Anyway thoughts on this one tij ?  |
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Even relative to Vancouver?
