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Post by tij on Mar 13, 2019 9:48:06 GMT -5
Lommaren This one is definitely on the chilly side. I'm disappointed that the autumn highs are chillier than spring, and that all 3 winter months average below freezing (excessive precip in oct/nov is probably a factor here)-- even if they seem manageable and preferable to mpls desert tundra winter-- definitely way too much snow for me though) Summers are also on the cooler end of my preferences. This one is a B- to C+ if I'm feeling less generous.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 13, 2019 9:54:03 GMT -5
A typical B or B- climate for me.
Could be colder but the snowfall is just right. Too rainy though. Summers are great...
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Post by knot on Mar 13, 2019 11:22:50 GMT -5
Lommaren A–, straddling A; spectacular winters, as well as variable-by-maximums summers.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 13, 2019 12:38:29 GMT -5
I think I'll postpone my chinook alley tour a bit because basically all the stations in rural Alberta magically see snow reports disappear after 2007 and it's not funny... I'll probably do precipitation-only ones sooner or later but damn, that wasn't cool! |
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 14, 2019 10:43:03 GMT -5
Canada's all-time warmth spot, Yellow Grass ( 1981-2010 normals) in Saskatchewan for 2002-2018:  Being in the transition between the chinooks and the stronger winters, it definitely has a bit of everything, sometimes seeming like a real-life random number-generator climate created by Wilko. Every month bar July averages more than 30°C monthly amplitude! For example, in any given April you're likely to face one 25°C day and one -13°C night! It took a lot to finish this box since some years missed data for certain months and then the snowfall vanished in 2017 as one of two stations at the same place shut down. Sigh. I'm still very confident every month is within 0.2°C of reality. Either way, thoughts 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 and Steelernation ? I'd assume knot would like the variable nature of the place. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 14, 2019 10:49:53 GMT -5
B+
A bit dry in summer but other than that it is a good one although not my fave climate type.
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Post by knot on Mar 14, 2019 12:20:59 GMT -5
Lommaren B+; epic variable summers with lovely diurnal range and low humidity, with plentiful storm activity; terribly dry and frigid winters, which are also terribly snow-less for how bloody cold they are. The dry-as-a-bloody-bone, terribly frigid winters send it to buggery big-time! 
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 14, 2019 13:18:16 GMT -5
C-. I like the precipitation, snowfall and variability a lot but it’s too cold.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 15, 2019 6:48:32 GMT -5
Yarmouth 2002-2018, a rather special climate courtesy of how maritime it is by Eastern Canadian standards. This does however mainly apply to daytime moderation, since nights retain quite sizeable diurnals compared to what a maritime climate in the Baltic Sea would have. 1981-2010 normals are here.  I'd assume 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 would dislike the winter rain, knot the cool summers spoiling the winter fun and tij find it too cold in general? |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 15, 2019 12:09:34 GMT -5
C+
No thanks but it is still better than here no question.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 15, 2019 14:48:56 GMT -5
I'll add this one for Kandel and Angler to study for good measure  Coastal Southwestern Newfoundland, and a proper snowdump, with the 1981-2010 normals indicating 101 snow days! It's gotten a bit milder, but the snowfall is still rather consistent and summers have certainly gotten better. Thoughts on it? For me it's worse than here, but it's still a solid D+ climate. Just a shame about the no-show summers.  |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 15, 2019 15:19:35 GMT -5
I'll add this one for Kandel and Angler to study for good measure Coastal Southwestern Newfoundland, and a proper snowdump, with the 1981-2010 normals indicating 101 snow days! It's gotten a bit milder, but the snowfall is still rather consistent and summers have certainly gotten better. Thoughts on it? For me it's worse than here, but it's still a solid D+ climate. Just a shame about the no-show summers. B+ very nice! Just needs slightly warmer summers! |
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Post by knot on Mar 15, 2019 15:34:47 GMT -5
I'll add this one for Kandel and Angler to study for good measure Coastal Southwestern Newfoundland, and a proper snowdump, with the 1981-2010 normals indicating 101 snow days! It's gotten a bit milder, but the snowfall is still rather consistent and summers have certainly gotten better. Thoughts on it? For me it's worse than here, but it's still a solid D+ climate. Just a shame about the no-show summers. A–; certainly better than Yarmouth (of which is B+). Summers are just too bloody stable, with too much summer rainfall and not enough summer thunderstorms. Those winters are HEAVENLY, however!  |
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Post by rpvan on Mar 15, 2019 20:13:23 GMT -5
Lommaren finally picking more temperate climates (definitely saw Vancouver, which is quite decent but has a bit lower diurnals and an autumn that is chillier than preferred)! Well, doing a bunch of Canadian climates is on average going to lead to a lot chillier winters than France... let's see what you'll think of this one though! Mediterranean Abbotsford now with extensive summer heat waves and a precipitation pattern that could easily have it classified as a Csb. Here are the 1981-2010 normals.
Either way, here's Abbotsford for this century and it's clearly a warmer-summer one, although winters haven't really changed much. As a result, snowfall totals have only slightly decreased, but are still more than two decimetres higher than Vancouver's seaside station. Thoughts on this one 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 and rpvan perhaps moving inland would be a lot better?
Also, I reckon knot will find a ton of flaws in this one, although the wet snow might be of interest? Love the warmer/drier summers but sadly every other season has gone to shit.  |
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Post by rpvan on Mar 15, 2019 20:15:06 GMT -5
This is one near the Pacific at 54°N I'm sure will have 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 and knot rather enthusiastic Am I right about that? It's a bit warmer than 1981-2010 but still enough for winter to show up. August was actually narrowly warmer for overall means than July with 21.72/11.74 versus 21.73/11.70, but it's still rather unique to have those two months end up that close. Anyway thoughts on this one tij ? Ah, good old Terrace. Still a nice winter climate but all other seasons are far too cold and wet for my tastes. You should check out how insanely snowy the winters in the 60s and 70s were over there. |
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Post by rpvan on Mar 15, 2019 20:18:57 GMT -5
Bella Coola 2002-2018 ( the 1981-2010 normals here): Due to Environment Canada always shifting stations for this one, it was rather tricky to get it done, but here it is! This is how I'd imagine fiord climates would've looked like had Denmark and Northern Germany been shaped like Norway is. Bella Coola is at 53°N some 120 km inland from the open sea linked by fiords and the airport station is a further 9 km inland in a valley setting. The record high that was set in 2009 is also rather remarkable, that day saw a 41.2/15.0 diurnal! Anyway thoughts on this one Nidaros , doesn't it look quite a lot like a warmed-up Western Norwegian climate? It makes me wonder what Western Canada would look like without the Rockies and how far inland the maritime influence would stretch. This one is similar to Copenhagen for temperatures after all, and just 2° farther south. Also, knot , is this one to your liking a lot more than cold desert Denmark and South Sweden? 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 , best coastal-ish climate in BC? tij , do you like this one? On that topic, the 2009 heatwave was probably among one of the most anomalous weather events in history all over the PNW. The effects of that massive ridge were felt even up north in the Yukon and NWT. Tuktoyaktuk, a town on the shores of the arctic ocean nearly hit 30C! |
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Post by rpvan on Mar 15, 2019 20:21:47 GMT -5
Care to elaborate?  Even relative to Vancouver? It is not significantly different and sometimes the outflow winds prevent snow from falling, while Vancouver scores. But they do have their moments too. During arctic blasts originating from northern BC and the Yukon, Abbotsford generally does very well and owns Vancouver for cold. Examples even being early Feb this year. Another one I can think of off the top of my head would be Jan 2012. High of nearly -10C in Abbotsford and only -3C in Vancouver. |
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Post by tij on Mar 15, 2019 20:28:44 GMT -5
Yarmouth 2002-2018, a rather special climate courtesy of how maritime it is by Eastern Canadian standards. This does however mainly apply to daytime moderation, since nights retain quite sizeable diurnals compared to what a maritime climate in the Baltic Sea would have. 1981-2010 normals are here. I'd assume 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 would dislike the winter rain, knot the cool summers spoiling the winter fun and tij find it too cold in general? This one is a C+-- it's just the summers and winters don't pair together well for me in particular, but I appreciate the rainfall (I would find the nor'easters fairly exciting), including the chilly winter rain-- but do definitely want significantly milder averages with a stronger chance for mild, 13C days in there. I also suspect it may be a bit on the gloomier side for me? I really do like this kind of climate-- but further down the coast: places like Nantucket, Block Island, Martha's Vineyard, Cape Cod, and Long Island! These places have annual averages and transitions considerably closer to my ideal. |
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Post by tij on Mar 15, 2019 20:49:26 GMT -5
It is not significantly different and sometimes the outflow winds prevent snow from falling, while Vancouver scores. But they do have their moments too. During arctic blasts originating from northern BC and the Yukon, Abbotsford generally does very well and owns Vancouver for cold. Examples even being early Feb this year. Another one I can think of off the top of my head would be Jan 2012. High of nearly -10C in Abbotsford and only -3C in Vancouver. I think the november record low stands out as being unfortunate imo-- very inland "Canadian" and not typically marine-- the annual minimum seems very in line with my ideal at 15F however, so I didn't dock for that. |
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 16, 2019 7:29:26 GMT -5
Halifax' airport 2002-2018: Warmer in general, with two summer months well above the 24°C line. Snowfall is actually still up in spite of the milder temperatures, which makes it better for me than it was before! Check the airport normals for 1981-2010 as the second weatherbox in the article for reference of what it came from.
knot , 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 , thoughts? Is this a top climate or not? After all, snowfall is up and summers a bit warmer! Also, Ariete , do you find this better than anything in the Nordics? I'm a bit torn between this and the best ones in the Nordics in the same timeframe, there are excessive cold rain and winds in this one, although temperatures are generally more favourable both for snow cover and summer warmth. So, C- for all of them to me. |
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Coastal Southwestern Newfoundland, and a proper snowdump, with the 
Even relative to Vancouver?