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Post by Steelernation on Mar 29, 2019 20:50:37 GMT -5
C+. Good temps but early spring and summer are too cool. It’s also too stable, too wet and the snow should be more evenly distributed over more months.
Better than here though.
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Post by knot on Mar 30, 2019 4:44:19 GMT -5
42°N! Thoughts knot , 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 , Steelernation and tij in particular? The 20 selected locations (firmly averaging 42°N but some areas in Central Asia were too isolated to find stations on that particular latitude, so had to go slightly south or north): Pontevedra, Pamplona, Dubrovnik, Plovdiv, Kutaisi, Makhachkala, Shymkent, Bishkek, Turpan, Dalanzadgad, Fuxin, Tonghua, Kutchan, Medford, Twin Falls, Casper, Sioux City, Rockford, London (ON) and Boston.  My grade is a C-, mediocre most of the time. Summers are a touch too hot, whereas winters see too much single-digit weather which won't help the snow stay on the ground, in particular on that latitude with the sun strength. Either way, sunshine would most likely be around 2,500 hours. Bloody lovely! A; merely too dry in winter. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 4:58:15 GMT -5
I'll give it a C+. April through October is nice, but the winter is just too cold for a higher grade.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 30, 2019 17:30:25 GMT -5
This is your latitude @qidb602 !  I'd assume you can't stand it? The 20 selected stations were: Nantes, Innsbruck, Budapest, Chisinau, Rostov, Atyrau, Aralsk, Balkhash, Tacheng, Ulaanbaatar, Qiqihar, Hegang, Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, Seattle, Great Falls, Watford City, Grand Rapids (MN), Houghton, La Tuque and St. John's. Once again Central Asia saw some slightly off-latitude climates, but the average and the majority is firmly within 47°N and I'd rather have a few stations slightly off than missing a huge uninhabitated geographical area. It's quite interesting how unhospitable Central Asia really is to human habitation for such large masses of land. Although this latitude probably has some rather good climates for you in the US Steelernation , I'd assume worldwide it falls rather short? Also, tij , 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 , knot , what do you make of it? For me this is a C-. Rather comparable to upper Wisconsin in some ways. What's interesting to me is that peak summers are pretty much as warm as 45°N, in spite of the higher latitude. I'd credit this to the latitude skipping over the Black Sea and also the Caspian Sea, resulting in more inland warmth in summer for its latitude. The absence of the seas, no doubt influenced the latitude being rather dry. Still, snowfall would probably be 140-150 cm annually with a reliable snow cover for two months in real life. |
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 30, 2019 17:32:54 GMT -5
C-. A bit worse than Rochester
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Post by tij on Mar 30, 2019 18:06:11 GMT -5
Lommaren no thx! At least places like Nantes and Seattle make those lows not as bad and help with records! Summers and May are pretty decent, but winter and the rest of the transitions are too cold (slightly milder nights than mpls tho, admittedly). I'll give it a C/C- like you for nice summers, and its also too dry as another flaw. Seems like 42N and 45N are a bit lusher than the latitudes around them...
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 30, 2019 18:12:55 GMT -5
A+
Surprisingly, the precipitation isn't as uniform as the other latitude climates.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 30, 2019 18:14:01 GMT -5
A+ Surprisingly, the precipitation isn't as uniform as the other latitude climates. Influence subarctique perhaps? East Asian monsoon, very little mediterranean influence too. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 20:07:34 GMT -5
Certainly not a nice climate although the warmer half of the year is decent Lommaren. Solid D overall. Good thing Seattle is very mild in winter for its latitude.  |
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Post by knot on Mar 30, 2019 20:19:52 GMT -5
This is your latitude @qidb602 ! I'd assume you can't stand it? The 20 selected stations were: Nantes, Innsbruck, Budapest, Chisinau, Rostov, Atyrau, Aralsk, Balkhash, Tacheng, Ulaanbaatar, Qiqihar, Hegang, Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, Seattle, Great Falls, Watford City, Grand Rapids (MN), Houghton, La Tuque and St. John's. Once again Central Asia saw some slightly off-latitude climates, but the average and the majority is firmly within 47°N and I'd rather have a few stations slightly off than missing a huge uninhabitated geographical area. It's quite interesting how unhospitable Central Asia really is to human habitation for such large masses of land. Although this latitude probably has some rather good climates for you in the US Steelernation , I'd assume worldwide it falls rather short? Also, tij , 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 , knot , what do you make of it? For me this is a C-. Rather comparable to upper Wisconsin in some ways. What's interesting to me is that peak summers are pretty much as warm as 45°N, in spite of the higher latitude. I'd credit this to the latitude skipping over the Black Sea and also the Caspian Sea, resulting in more inland warmth in summer for its latitude. The absence of the seas, no doubt influenced the latitude being rather dry. Still, snowfall would probably be 140-150 cm annually with a reliable snow cover for two months in real life. A; requires wetter (and snowier) winters for an A+, as well as requiring warmer winter lows; splendid climate! |
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Post by tij on Mar 31, 2019 23:05:06 GMT -5
Lommaren do 40S if you can! I might really like it!
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Post by Lommaren on Apr 3, 2019 15:23:16 GMT -5
I did this instead tij  Wikipedia link to the main village.  I updated the old Wikipedia Katterjåkk/Riksgränsen box someone else had done between 2002-2013 (the snow picture from yesterday was taken there) and published it on Wikipedia. Snowfall should be up in peak season but down for September and October, might cancel itself out overall, but I think it has increased since the 70's, since the overall precipitation is quite high nowadays. Anyway, thoughts on this epicmost polar highland climate? knot and 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 I don't think I even need to ask Steeler and QID about this one since I assume both would give it an automatic F- For me it's an F+. My dad did midnight sun skiing close to summer solstice there in the 1980's need I say any more than that? |
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Post by knot on Apr 3, 2019 15:26:15 GMT -5
I did this instead tij  I updated the old Wikipedia Katterjåkk/Riksgränsen box someone else had done between 2002-2013 (the snow picture from yesterday was taken there) and published it on Wikipedia. Snowfall should be up in peak season but down for October, might cancel itself out overall. Anyway, thoughts on this epicmost polar highland climate? knot and 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 I don't think I even need to ask Steeler and QID about this one since I assume both would give it an automatic F- For me it's an F+. My dad did midnight sun skiing close to summer solstice there in the 1980's need I say any more than that? B–; too cold and dry in winter, and too stable by summer maxima. Gay climate. |
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Post by Steelernation on Apr 3, 2019 15:31:24 GMT -5
Where did you get the snow data from Lommaren? It seems too low in winter. Anyways it’s a horrific climate. |
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Post by Lommaren on Apr 3, 2019 15:37:30 GMT -5
Where did you get the snow data from Lommaren ? It seems too low in winter. Anyways it’s a horrific climate. I used the incumbent 1970-1981 data cited by the weatherbox previously. I'm not sure I can find where that editor found it, but it would seem like it suits the 70's well - quite dry but a colder climate. They don't measure snowfall in cm any longer, they just measure snow depth. I let it stand because it seemed relatively close at least.
In fact, I had to change a lot over now because I discovered whoever did the editing five years ago, made very good contributions regarding averages (matched my Excel to that point perfectly), but completely had messed up most of the all-time records.
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Post by Nidaros on Apr 3, 2019 15:40:29 GMT -5
Katterjåkk, is what, about 600 m ASL?
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Post by Lommaren on Apr 3, 2019 15:46:07 GMT -5
Katterjåkk, is what, about 600 m ASL? Something like that yes. It's basically a northern version of Storlien like 120 km up the road from you. It really reminds me of it in so many ways. Riksgränsen and Katterjåkk of course are even closer to Narvik than that, but are more mountain-shielded, which makes it rather similar in terms of the maritime influence, which admittedly still is really strong. -7/-14 winters inland on that latitude during winter is still rather "mild". It getting to 2.5°C or above on average year-round every single month is also proof of the Gulf Stream domination up there. |
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Post by Nidaros on Apr 4, 2019 15:13:52 GMT -5
Not really my own-made, but anyway: Grimstad (Landvik) on the south coast of Norway, 58°20'N Hope you can understand a few french words...Tempe moy moyennes is mean, tempe maxi moyennes is avg daily high....precips is precipitation, avr is Apr...
The record highs shows very modest seasonal variation from Feb to Nov for a Scandinavian climate due to warm record highs on several of colder part of the shoulder seasons. However this is climate information from 2013 onwards.
Earlier years have seen both colder lows and warmer highs, record highs actually are: Jan: 12.5C Mar: 23.1°C Mar 2012 Jul: 30.8°C
Aug: 32.2°C Aug 1975 Sep: 27.8°C
Dec: 13.8°C
Record lows are also colder from earlier years.
The all-time low is -30.3°C from the infamous Feb 1966 - much colder than any other monthly record low.
At these latitudes, the warming of the planet is happening faster than at more southerly latitudes, so these averages gives pretty good picture of what to expect at Grimstad now.
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Post by Cadeau on Apr 4, 2019 18:58:01 GMT -5
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Post by Babu on Apr 4, 2019 19:53:06 GMT -5
How accurately does PRISM interpolation (or is it extrapolation? Don't know what prism is) factor in UHI?
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