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Post by Ariete on Feb 12, 2019 8:30:53 GMT -5
Now with 100% legit data. Turku Airport 1991-2002, Turku Artukainen 2003-2017:
Comparison with 81-10 normals:
Jan: +1.0 Feb: +0.9 Mar: +0.7 Apr: +0.4 May: +0.3 June: +0.2 July: +0.6 Aug: +0.8 Sep: +0.8 Oct: +0.1 Nov: +0.8 Dec: +1.4 Precipitation: -35mm (-0.5%)
Turku maded superior to same latitude Sweden jajaja 
There's 2018 included:
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Post by Babu on Feb 12, 2019 10:23:53 GMT -5
Turku maded superior to same latitude Sweden jajaja
There's 2018 included:
Uppsala maded superior to same latitude Finland jajaja  University station |
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Post by Ariete on Feb 12, 2019 12:16:13 GMT -5
Cosmetic differences Babu. Those Uppsala records must be all-time records, right? No way it has recorded -30C that many times since 1991, especially in March. I guess March is 1942. |
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Post by Babu on Feb 12, 2019 12:18:35 GMT -5
Cosmetic differences Babu . Those Uppsala records must be all-time records, right? No way it has recorded -30C that many times since 1991, especially in March. I guess March is 1942. Airport is since 91, University is all time |
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Post by Ariete on Feb 12, 2019 12:20:48 GMT -5
When did the Airport hit -30C in March?  That's Pötsönvaara stuff! |
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Post by Ariete on Feb 12, 2019 12:40:20 GMT -5
I thought I has posted this, but not at least in this thread. I think I only posted it on shitty-data. The first complete normals publicly available, because the 1810's to 184x are somewhere rotting away in FMI's basement. I think I don't have to clarify that these normals aren't from the airport but Kaisaniemi.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 12:43:10 GMT -5
^^
march 2nd 2005
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Post by Babu on Feb 12, 2019 13:20:40 GMT -5
When did the Airport hit -30C in March? That's Pötsönvaara stuff!  Every single one of those are in Northern Sweden except Uppsala airport and Svanberga both of which are in Uppland county. Films kyrkby was -27.3'C and Uppsala University was -25.0 |
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Post by Ariete on Feb 12, 2019 13:58:27 GMT -5
Amazing. Turku Artukainen had a low of -15.7C that day.
Also: Nattavaara? Pötsönvaara's Swedish brother?
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Post by Babu on Feb 14, 2019 11:37:21 GMT -5
I wanted to compare Malmö and Lund against Copenhagen, but seing as DMI doesn't have any open data I had to contend with 1981-2010.    Copenhagen was straight up superior to Malmö in 1981-2010 (at least according to my preferences), but I guess that makes sense considering the much greater UHI. Lund is better May-August, but the winters are considerably cooler. I actually think I'd go for Copenhagen over Lund. Let's see how Copenhagen fares in the new 1991-2020 period. I'm curious what the different stations in Copenhagen have to offer as well. DMI is going to release open data soon, so we'll be able to find out then. I wonder if they have a great UHI station. |
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Post by Ariete on Feb 15, 2019 13:14:31 GMT -5
Utö, "the Scilly Isles of Finland". For all you cold and heat haters, this is the best you can get within our borders.
Hardiness zone is 7B. Highest is 9A and lowest 6A.
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Post by Ariete on Feb 15, 2019 16:30:15 GMT -5
And then Hanko Tulliniemi, which has the mildest winters on the mainland (Metropolitan Finland). The station was plagued by missing data every year during the 90's, and there's no way I will dig them up from Hanko Tvärminne, so 2000 to 2018 has to do. If a month has missing data and I suspected that Tvärminne could beat Tulliniemi, I chose the former's record lows and highs for that particular month.
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Post by Ariete on Feb 15, 2019 19:01:21 GMT -5
The last weather box for today is Helsinki Kumpula. What makes this station interesting is that it's geographically halfway from Kaisaniemi to the Helsinki-Vantaa airport and thus has some elements of both stations. The Kumpula station is located in the back yard of the FMI HQ building, it's not in an UHI location, but neither too far inland. I hope that in the future this station will be used as the representative of the capital (which I think they will do).
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Post by Babu on Feb 16, 2019 17:04:43 GMT -5
Utö, "the Scilly Isles of Finland". For all you cold and heat haters, this is the best you can get within our borders.
Hardiness zone is 7B. Highest is 9A and lowest 6A.
Here's Sweden's answer on the exact same latitude.  Boy is that a shit climate. Only salvation is dryness and, by 2002-2018 measures, around 2100h of annual sunshine. This may be the station with most seasonal delay in Sweden with August and September being straight up warmer than June and May. Svenska högarna probably has a better weatherbox but that's like 0.3° further south. That station averaged 1.5/-1.4 in January, 0.6/-2.3 in February, 19.8/15.0 in July, and 19.8/15.4 in August. So while Utö is superior to Söderarm, Svenska högarna is superior to Utö. -17.3 was the coldest temperature. |
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Post by Ariete on Feb 16, 2019 18:05:11 GMT -5
Kökar has milder winters than Utö, but it's just an automated lighthouse, so it's no fun. Utö is at least an inhabited island.
I thought that it could be nice to visit, but jesus the ferry from Turku takes 6 hours and costs €30 one way.
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Post by Lommaren on Feb 17, 2019 14:43:24 GMT -5
Urban Winnipeg (The Forks) 2002-2018:  |
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Post by Lommaren on Feb 18, 2019 9:18:36 GMT -5
Portland, Maine, 2002-2018 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 knot, good climate for those who love exciting weather and precipitation?  Historical sunshine by international standards would've been at 2,250 hours or so for 1981-2010, which probably remains quite similar, even though it's gotten more precipitation since. Historical snowfall was at 157 cm, which given the milder lows easily could've decreased a bit, but the increased winter precipitation should make it rather similar, just more sleet and rain included.  |
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Post by Steelernation on Feb 18, 2019 13:26:17 GMT -5
Portland, Maine, 2002-2018 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 knot , good climate for those who love exciting weather and precipitation? Historical sunshine by international standards would've been at 2,250 hours or so for 1981-2010, which probably remains quite similar, even though it's gotten more precipitation since. Historical snowfall was at 157 cm, which given the milder lows easily could've decreased a bit, but the increased winter precipitation should make it rather similar, just more sleet and rain included. Please use actual sources and not infoclimat. That isn’t accurate. Precipitation is really 49.07”, way off from your “data”. Snowfall is now 70.9” (181 cm). Your minimum temperatures are also 1-2 f too warm year round. The April record high should also be 93, not 86. |
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Post by Lommaren on Feb 18, 2019 15:15:15 GMT -5
Please use actual sources and not infoclimat. That isn’t accurate. Precipitation is really 49.07”, way off from your “data”. Snowfall is now 70.9” (181 cm). Your minimum temperatures are also 1-2 f too warm year round. The April record high should also be 93, not 86. There might be some correlation errors between metric and imperial for some of those. Infoclimat is spot-on for the spot checks I did on Swedish, Norwegian, French and British stations. So, all it really says, was that maybe it didn't work for Portland, Maine, and maybe it doesn't work well for the US. Anyway, trying to find my way around NOAA is like going around the jungle without a compass. It's the messiest site I've ever seen and everything's geared towards imperial and no-digit decimals which makes it just seem strange. Most official weather agencies except Australia are really messed up when it comes to data delivery. So make of it what you will, I've no intention to post that onto Wikipedia anyway. |
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Post by Nidaros on Feb 18, 2019 15:39:56 GMT -5
Infoclimat is bad for many Norwegian stations. The record highs and lows are worst, often completely wrong. Averages are usually better.
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That's Pötsönvaara stuff!
Historical sunshine by international standards would've been at 2,250 hours or so for 1981-2010, which probably remains quite similar, even though it's gotten more precipitation since. Historical snowfall was at 157 cm, which given the milder lows easily could've decreased a bit, but the increased winter precipitation should make it rather similar, just more sleet and rain included.
