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Post by Lommaren on Feb 18, 2019 16:03:26 GMT -5
Infoclimat is bad for many Norwegian stations. The record highs and lows are worst, often completely wrong. Averages are usually better. When it randomly says "0.0" because data is missing or makes "40.0" up out of thin air, that's when one has to watch out. |
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Post by knot on Feb 19, 2019 4:55:52 GMT -5
NOAA is quite a shoddy site—especially when compared to BOM (which is the #No.1 best).
Still barely know how to locate averages on NOAA meself...much harder than BOM! Not to mention the farenheit-only attitude and worse yet, the non-decimal figures; decimals are very important, so without decimals, it can never be truly official to me.
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Post by Lommaren on Feb 19, 2019 7:38:44 GMT -5
Magdalen Islands (Îles de-la-Madeleine) 2002-2018. I can't say for sure that everything is 100 % accurate everywhere to every decimal, but from the data it would still appear like warmer SST's and less ice in winter has affected those quite a lot, being an island in the Gulf of Saint Lawrence and all that. Likewise, Magdalen Islands must've been extremely cold during the 1800's when the sea ice completely would've gripped the place. That has resulted in it not getting close to the historical cold temperatures. For example, no sea ice at all in December = doesn't get close to subzero temps in a large body of water on that latitude (47°N). Nevertheless, it's still an interesting hybrid climate between continental and maritime. It's worth noting that this station is a different one to the airport station, and I'd assume this one is more coastal. The airport is probably still about -3/-10 for February but had incomplete data. Anyway, thoughts on this low-latitude Newfoundland/Umeå/Holmön hybrid Babu ? I'd say a climate like this would be roughly equal to Mora to me and better than Umeå and even Sundsvall.  |
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Post by Babu on Feb 19, 2019 9:22:39 GMT -5
Worse than Umeå; twice as wet and shit awful spring
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Post by Lommaren on Feb 19, 2019 11:25:49 GMT -5
Worse than Umeå; twice as wet and shit awful spring It does look a little odd for sure, going by temperatures only.
The first half of the year is like Alta and the second like a mix of Nyköping highs and Landsort lows with July being something in between. It's a bit too rainy for me too, but I'd like the snow amounts (200-250 cm) as well as the warm summer nights.
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Post by Steelernation on Feb 19, 2019 13:32:23 GMT -5
NOAA is quite a shoddy site—especially when compared to BOM (which is the #No.1 best). I agree NOAA is shit. I never use it. Nowdata though is an excellent and easy to use source. Just search Nowdata, click on the link for whichever nws office you want. On the left scroll down to select a station and then there’s a whole bunch of data you can get. If you want averages click on “monthly summarized data” and select your variable. It’s really easy to use and has a lot of easily accessible data. Don’t bother with the NOAA site, it’s way harder. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 14:00:31 GMT -5
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Post by Lommaren on Feb 20, 2019 7:43:48 GMT -5
Crosby right outside of Liverpool 2002-2018. Not much warming there. Interesting that the 2010 December cold snap along with some other cold nights in early winter make the coldest night of the year that front-loaded and also much colder than the individual coldest night month. The most interesting thing to note from a summer standpoint is that July just went past the 20°C avg high line. Two years' coldest nights of June and one years' coldest night of February was missing, so the means were adjusted to include 15 Junes and 16 Februaries for that factor.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 11:10:29 GMT -5
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Post by Steelernation on Feb 20, 2019 14:25:46 GMT -5
Just for fun here’s Rochester 2010-2019.  Mean record high: 94.3 Mean record low: -5.7 Days 90+: 11.3 Days 95+: 1.0 (4/9 years) Difference from 81-10: January: +0.7 February: +0.3 March: +0.9 April: +0.3 May: +3.9 June: +1.2 July: +2.2 August: +2.5 Sept: +2.7 Oct: +2.3 Nov: +0.6 Dec: +2.7 Total: +1.6May is just incredible, winter and early spring didn’t warm much but July to October warmed a ton. Also, about 2.5” wetter than 81-10. |
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Post by Ariete on Feb 20, 2019 14:52:02 GMT -5
Steelernation, if April and most of the lows would be a bit warmer it would be an A fucken +!
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Post by Lommaren on Feb 20, 2019 17:13:36 GMT -5
Thompson 2002-2018 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿  Less severe nights on average, equal highs overall, but rainier summers! Those April cold snaps look rather interesting to say the least...  |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Feb 20, 2019 17:41:18 GMT -5
Thompson 2002-2018 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 Less severe nights on average, equal highs overall, but rainier summers! Those April cold snaps look rather interesting to say the least... Pretty extreme. Nice wet summers too! |
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Post by Lommaren on Feb 21, 2019 8:20:03 GMT -5
Tromsø moving along with the warmer Scandinavian climates, 16.4/9.5 in July and -1.9/-5.0 for the coldest of the winter months for a full 17 years is rather unprecedented. Does it look liveable to you 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 ? For me, it's better than Kiruna but worse than Umeå. Where is it versus Kiruna for yourself Babu ? Rather interesting climate either way, especially how it barely ever gets below 0°F in spite of being way above the arctic circle and having a rather permanent snow cover in winter.  |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Feb 21, 2019 10:54:22 GMT -5
Tromsø moving along with the warmer Scandinavian climates, 16.4/9.5 in July and -1.9/-5.0 for the coldest of the winter months for a full 17 years is rather unprecedented. Does it look liveable to you 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 ? For me, it's better than Kiruna but worse than Umeå. Where is it versus Kiruna for yourself Babu ? Rather interesting climate either way, especially how it barely ever gets below 0°F in spite of being way above the arctic circle and having a rather permanent snow cover in winter. yeah i would give it a B. Umeå is definitely better though. |
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Post by knot on Feb 21, 2019 10:55:56 GMT -5
Tromsø moving along with the warmer Scandinavian climates, 16.4/9.5 in July and -1.9/-5.0 for the coldest of the winter months for a full 17 years is rather unprecedented. Does it look liveable to you 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 ? For me, it's better than Kiruna but worse than Umeå. Where is it versus Kiruna for yourself Babu ? Rather interesting climate either way, especially how it barely ever gets below 0°F in spite of being way above the arctic circle and having a rather permanent snow cover in winter. Lovely climate!  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 11:04:46 GMT -5
a station on the varanger penninsula, 152 masl. if you want a tundra climate with cold winters, this is the best you can get in scandinavia.  |
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Post by Lommaren on Feb 21, 2019 11:05:02 GMT -5
Even at 69°N with midnight sun? knot |
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Post by knot on Feb 21, 2019 11:05:51 GMT -5
Even at 69°N with midnight sun? knot Nah, forgetting that of course. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Feb 21, 2019 12:46:40 GMT -5
Even at 69°N with midnight sun? knot Got 'em.  |
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