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Post by Lommaren on May 26, 2018 9:37:43 GMT -5
Virginia (VA Beach/Norfolk metro area), Nebraska (Omaha), Connecticut (Bridgeport/Hartford), Kentucky (Louisville) and Québec City (ice hockey) immediately come to mind for me. Bemused for example why the soccer league keeps expanding in existing markets rather than going for slam dunks such as Virginia Beach... No NHL team in either Oregon nor Washington has always confused me too. Not sure whether Birmingham, Alabama would be large enough to have a team, but wouldn't rule it out. Same with Columbia in South Carolina, and then of course Austin. Sure, University of Texas in college football, but definitely large enough of a market now for a pro team. What about Rochester Steelernation ? Isn't it quite similar in size to Buffalo for example? Anyway, what about you guys? I'm sure Wildcat would appreciate an NBA team to Louisville, huh?  |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 9:45:01 GMT -5
San Diego shouldn't have lost the Chargers, imo
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 9:47:09 GMT -5
a gay question deserves a gay answer.
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Post by Wildcat on May 28, 2018 12:21:57 GMT -5
Anyway, what about you guys? I'm sure Wildcat would appreciate an NBA team to Louisville, huh? I'd love to have an NBA team in Louisville. It's funny how Kentucky and Alabama are crazy about basketball and football respectively at the collegiate level, but neither states have a pro team. Louisville has a metro of over a million and a state of the art arena, the only issue is coordinating it with the University of Louisville who would have priority for their games. They could renovate the old arena (Freedom Hall) but I read that could be in excess of $200 million. |
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Post by Lommaren on May 28, 2018 12:30:19 GMT -5
I'd love to have an NBA team in Louisville. It's funny how Kentucky and Alabama are crazy about basketball and football respectively at the collegiate level, but neither states have a pro team. Louisville has a metro of over a million and a state of the art arena, the only issue is coordinating it with the University of Louisville who would have priority for their games. They could renovate the old arena (Freedom Hall) but I read that could be in excess of $200 million. Would it be realistic to bring the Wildcats and Lexington into the NBA? Surely they could still field a junior team in college basketball while having a Wildcats NBA franchise with the same name? |
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Post by Wildcat on May 28, 2018 12:35:59 GMT -5
I'd love to have an NBA team in Louisville. It's funny how Kentucky and Alabama are crazy about basketball and football respectively at the collegiate level, but neither states have a pro team. Louisville has a metro of over a million and a state of the art arena, the only issue is coordinating it with the University of Louisville who would have priority for their games. They could renovate the old arena (Freedom Hall) but I read that could be in excess of $200 million. Would it be realistic to bring the Wildcats and Lexington into the NBA? Surely they could still field a junior team in college basketball while having a Wildcats NBA franchise with the same name? Nah, nothing would be able to compete with UK |
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Post by Lommaren on May 28, 2018 12:37:01 GMT -5
Nah, nothing would be able to compete with UK Whereas the distance to Louisville is sufficient to allow for separate markets I assume? Would the presence of the Cardinals be a big issue down there though? |
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Post by Wildcat on May 28, 2018 12:49:07 GMT -5
Nah, nothing would be able to compete with UK Whereas the distance to Louisville is sufficient to allow for separate markets I assume? Would the presence of the Cardinals be a big issue down there though? Yeah, that’s what I was saying about the arena. But Louisville is also bigger city and their arena is much newer. |
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Post by Lommaren on May 28, 2018 12:53:37 GMT -5
Yeah, that’s what I was saying about the arena. But Louisville is also bigger city and their arena is much newer. I was thinking fanbase and so forth but fair enough Personally I (and very few Europeans) would be interested in watching professional junior league sports like you are over in North America. I've always found that a perplexing phenomenon! If my university would field a soccer team probably 50 people would show up to watch them play say Uppsala or Stockholm University |
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Post by Wildcat on May 28, 2018 13:43:22 GMT -5
Yeah, that’s what I was saying about the arena. But Louisville is also bigger city and their arena is much newer. I was thinking fanbase and so forth but fair enough Personally I (and very few Europeans) would be interested in watching professional junior league sports like you are over in North America. I've always found that a perplexing phenomenon! If my university would field a soccer team probably 50 people would show up to watch them play say Uppsala or Stockholm University The fanbases overall aren't really comparable: kentuckysportsradio.com/basketball-2/recent-poll-finds-uk-fans-outnumber-louisville-fans-66-to-19/ |
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Post by alex992 on May 28, 2018 14:18:11 GMT -5
Louisville is probably too close to Indiana/Indianapolis (Pacers) to get an NBA team. I'm sure people there root for the Pacers anyway, though I do think it could do well. I've always found it strange that St. Louis doesn't have an NBA team, nor does KC, but OKC does...
I think Nashville could do with an MLB team, St. Louis with an NBA team.
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Post by Lommaren on May 28, 2018 15:16:32 GMT -5
I think there's always that issue of NHL/NBA team in the same arena day in day out that could prove tricky in St. Louis alex992 . They'd definitely have to get the owners of St. Louis Blues to agree with that expansion before it could happen. Not sure any basketball team could have its own arena ready to go from scratch and converting from ice to court overnight all the time must be quite costly to maintain on an annual basis. Larger markets with more money like LA/New York (Staples/Madison Square Garden) surely makes that maintenance cost easier to maintain due to their higher priority. It does surprise me though that neither LA nor New York with their markets have gone away from ground-sharing since the Florida Panthers don't share arena with the Miami Heat for example. On the other hand Kansas City I think has its stadium ready to welcome an NHL or NBA team at any time and therefore the NBA team would get that market more to itself also. So, would the NBA expand into Missouri I think it would be to KC if that makes sense?  I do agree though that St. Louis with its demographics similar to other African American-dominated cities in the Midwest more than KC is would probably fit in greater in reality. |
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Post by The Gior from Ipanema on May 29, 2018 14:53:10 GMT -5
I would love to see MLB teams in Montreal and Portland, and those are considered to be the next two destinations. Also Monterrey and Mexico City would be interesting expansion spots
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Post by Lommaren on May 29, 2018 15:00:53 GMT -5
I would love to see MLB teams in Montreal and Portland, and those are considered to be the next two destinations. Also Monterrey and Mexico City would be interesting expansion spots <iframe width="24.24000000000001" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 24.24000000000001px; height: 3.240000000000009px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_56153200" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.24000000000001" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 24.24px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1151px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_48170210" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.24000000000001" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 24.24px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_25594479" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.24000000000001" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 24.24px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1151px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_7376959" scrolling="no"></iframe> What would be the best sport to be competed in professionally in Binghamton? Snow scooter, dogsled and cross-country skiing World Championships? |
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Post by alex992 on May 29, 2018 15:05:01 GMT -5
I would love to see MLB teams in Montreal and Portland, and those are considered to be the next two destinations. Also Monterrey and Mexico City would be interesting expansion spots I feel like Portland might be a bit too close to the Seattle market for an MLB team? Though I agree it'd be cool to have one there, and one in Vancouver as well. Those three cities would be a cool rivalry to watch lol |
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Post by Lommaren on May 29, 2018 15:06:46 GMT -5
Only in soccer does that tri-rivalry exist and it's fairly explosive. Both Portland Timbers and Seattle Sounders have won a championship each recently.
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Post by The Gior from Ipanema on May 29, 2018 15:31:26 GMT -5
I would love to see MLB teams in Montreal and Portland, and those are considered to be the next two destinations. Also Monterrey and Mexico City would be interesting expansion spots I feel like Portland might be a bit too close to the Seattle market for an MLB team? Though I agree it'd be cool to have one there, and one in Vancouver as well. Those three cities would be a cool rivalry to watch lol Dunno, Portland is probably big enough for its own team. And I feel like Portlanders might be too proud to root for a Seattle team lol. It's usually listed as the top destination for an expansion team, along with Charlotte |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 16:53:35 GMT -5
One of the Canadian cities that has always been a candidate for an NHL team is Hamilton. To me, it doesn't make sense because of its proximity to Toronto. Plus, I'm sure the city of Hamilton is full of Leafs fans.
Then again, the NYC metro area has the Devils & Islanders in addition to the Rangers, so you never know.
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Post by Lommaren on May 29, 2018 17:01:45 GMT -5
One of the Canadian cities that has always been a candidate for an NHL team is Hamilton. To me, it doesn't make sense because of its proximity to Toronto. Plus, I'm sure the city of Hamilton is full of Leafs fans. Then again, the NYC metro area has the Devils & Islanders in addition to the Rangers, so you never know. Any Canadian city could have a full 15 k house every other night for an NHL team. Had they split off and founded their own Canadian league, while salaries would be lower than in the NHL in general you could still have teams in Victoria, Regina, Saskatoon, Windsor, Hamilton, Kingston, Gatineau, Thunder Bay, Québec, Fredericton, Halifax and St. John without problems although there of course would be a big financial gap to the top teams with regards to ticket prices and merchandise revenue. There's a Canadian hockey fan under every rock after all  <iframe width="24.24000000000001" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 24.24000000000001px; height: 3.8799999999999955px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_60384230" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.24000000000001" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 24.24px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1151px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_86282140" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.24000000000001" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 24.24px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 134px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_75654309" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.24000000000001" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 24.24px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1151px; top: 134px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_63703545" scrolling="no"></iframe> Part of me wants Canada to do that, a domestic 12 or 16-team league that plays for its own cup every year. Not a big fan of cross-country leagues and I think the US-centrism of the NHL is not beneficial to hockey given how important the Canadian contribution of players is. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 17:24:45 GMT -5
One of the Canadian cities that has always been a candidate for an NHL team is Hamilton. To me, it doesn't make sense because of its proximity to Toronto. Plus, I'm sure the city of Hamilton is full of Leafs fans. Then again, the NYC metro area has the Devils & Islanders in addition to the Rangers, so you never know. Any Canadian city could have a full 15 k house every other night for an NHL team. Had they split off and founded their own Canadian league, while salaries would be lower than in the NHL in general you could still have teams in Victoria, Regina, Saskatoon, Windsor, Hamilton, Kingston, Gatineau, Thunder Bay, Québec, Fredericton, Halifax and St. John without problems although there of course would be a big financial gap to the top teams with regards to ticket prices and merchandise revenue. There's a Canadian hockey fan under every rock after all Part of me wants Canada to do that, a domestic 12 or 16-team league that plays for its own cup every year. Not a big fan of cross-country leagues and I think the US-centrism of the NHL is not beneficial to hockey given how important the Canadian contribution of players is. But four of the original six teams are American. The league has always been both Canadian & American. Although Canadians are certainly more interested in hockey, on average, than Americans, the NHL just couldn't garner the same revenue if half or more of the teams were Canadian. Canadians do follow hockey on all levels more closely than Americans. For Americans in non-traditional markets, it's mostly about the NHL. Philadelphia is commonly considered one of the more hockey-friendly cities in the USA, but it is not exactly what I'd call a traditional market. Hockey was unknown prior to the arrival of the Flyers in 1967. The growth of hockey is all about the Flyers. Other non-traditional markets seem to be doing very well, too, like Nashville. I hope they continue to do well. You can't say the growth of the sport is not good for the game. |
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I do agree though that St. Louis with its demographics similar to other African American-dominated cities in the Midwest more than KC is would probably fit in greater in reality.
