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Post by Lommaren on Mar 27, 2019 9:27:04 GMT -5
Sounds a bit like how Malmö operates. Given the fees in Britain work, I'd guess Morelos may well have 15-20 million pound suitors in the bottom tier of the Premier League this summer, which would make that a rather good deal in the end, although still less overall than what Malmö got for Mattias Svanberg last summer. It'd more or less be a standard deal for a Swedish club selling a talented player under contract abroad. Either way, for a revenue in the Finnish league, 3 million euros total would be a fabulous thing of course!
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Post by Ariete on Mar 27, 2019 9:46:06 GMT -5
Sounds a bit like how Malmö operates. Given the fees in Britain work, I'd guess Morelos may well have 15-20 million pound suitors in the bottom tier of the Premier League this summer, which would make that a rather good deal in the end, although still less overall than what Malmö got for Mattias Svanberg last summer. It'd more or less be a standard deal for a Swedish club selling a talented player under contract abroad. Either way, for a revenue in the Finnish league, 3 million euros total would be a fabulous thing of course!
According to Scottish media a offer of ~€15 million was already turned down, and just days after that broke Morelos signed a 1-year contract extension (now until July 2023). There has also been rumours that Dortmund might be interested, and indeed some lower tier PL teams.
15% of 20 million is 3, so that would be awesome.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 27, 2019 9:47:39 GMT -5
If Dortmund would buy him and therefore sell Alexander Isak to somewhere he gets to play week in and week out in the Bundesliga or a top club in his current Eredivisie environment then that's a jackpot both for HJK and Swedish football. We can't have Isak sitting on the bench/grandstands with all his talent. I think he'd be a lethal striker given a year or two in Ajax, Feyenoord, Wolfsburg, Hertha Berlin, Werder Bremen et cetera. I think Morelos would do okay in the Bundesliga, but something tells me Dortmund might be a touch too high level for him right now.
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Post by Ariete on Mar 27, 2019 10:25:14 GMT -5
If Dortmund would buy him and therefore sell Alexander Isak to somewhere he gets to play week in and week out in the Bundesliga or a top club in his current Eredivisie environment then that's a jackpot both for HJK and Swedish football. We can't have Isak sitting on the bench/grandstands with all his talent. I think he'd be a lethal striker given a year or two in Ajax, Feyenoord, Wolfsburg, Hertha Berlin, Werder Bremen et cetera. I think Morelos would do okay in the Bundesliga, but something tells me Dortmund might be a touch too high level for him right now.
Morelos has been very rational in his transfers. First to HJK as to get a sense of playing in Europe, then to Rangers into a much larger club but not that a big step up in the quality of play. Nevertheless, he had some adjustment to do being in a higher tempo and more direct playstyle. I have no doubt that he will not move to a too big club.
Anyway, I am happy that he played for HJK, and if he some day becomes the Golden Boot winner, I can say that it was trough us he got his foot between the door.
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Post by Moron on May 2, 2019 6:12:17 GMT -5
www.clippituser.tv/c/dnbabaBeautiful free kick from Messi to make it 3-0 up against Liverpool. This weekend the one premier league game being shown on free-to-air TV will be Bournemouth vs Tottenham. Going to be an interesting game, we can get up to 12th with this win but also drop to 15th if we lose while Tottenham have come off a loss to Ajax on wednesday. Hopefully we can get some points, a win would be great but a draw at home given our poor run of form since December will be fine too.
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Post by Ariete on May 20, 2019 10:46:59 GMT -5
FC Lahti - HJK 1-0 13' Törnros Fucken I hope now Lahti wins and manager Lehkosuo will be sacked. Hopefully the whole coaching staff gets sacked.
edit: 2-0 24' Gaël Etock
3-0 FT
BANA ULOS! AVGÅ ALLA!
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Post by Lommaren on May 27, 2019 15:29:36 GMT -5
Mercedes-sponsored Stuttgart relegated from the Bundesliga by Union Berlin - a club oppressed by the DDR regime! To compound the lol factor, they play in all-red and just pwned the cheats! Eat that Mercedes 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿  |
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Post by Lommaren on May 31, 2019 12:54:48 GMT -5
Ariete how come Finnish clubs often have those acronym names being used? Like HJK, TPS, MyPa, KuPs, RoPS and TP-47 rather than just Helsinki, Turku, Myllykoski, Kuopio, Rovaniemi and Tornio, the way Swedish clubs are being spoken of? Is it a grammar thing? I've noticed for example that HJK are "Helsingin" rather than "Helsinki" so thus can't really be referred to as Helsinki JK? Of course some Swedish clubs have possessive clauses too such as "Östersunds FK", but still they're always referred to as "Östersund" in the national media, whereas I take it in Finnish media the acronyms are exclusively used?
Are TP-47 ever referred to as just "Tornio" by the way? The other clubs I'm way more familiar with and would guess they're never referred to by the city name.
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Post by Ariete on May 31, 2019 13:46:05 GMT -5
Ariete how come Finnish clubs often have those acronym names being used? Like HJK, TPS, MyPa, KuPs, RoPS and TP-47 rather than just Helsinki, Turku, Myllykoski, Kuopio, Rovaniemi and Tornio, the way Swedish clubs are being spoken of? Is it a grammar thing? I've noticed for example that HJK are "Helsingin" rather than "Helsinki" so thus can't really be referred to as Helsinki JK? Of course some Swedish clubs have possessive clauses too such as "Östersunds FK", but still they're always referred to as "Östersund" in the national media, whereas I take it in Finnish media the acronyms are exclusively used?
Are TP-47 ever referred to as just "Tornio" by the way? The other clubs I'm way more familiar with and would guess they're never referred to by the city name.
Most cities have had more than one prominent club, and the acronyms are thus used to avoid confusion. Like if you say "Stockholm", do you mean Djurgården, Hammarby or AIK? Finnish clubs were back in the day also very class-conscious. For example in Turku TPS was the bourgeoisie club TuTo the workers' club, and Åbo IFK the Swedish-speakers' club. It would make sense sure that RoPS or MyPa could be called Rovaniemi or Myllykoski, but I guess the habit stucked. KuPS's rival was KPT, and TP-47's Tornion Toverit.
Helsingin is just the genetive case of Helsinki, literally meaning Helsinki's Football Club. HJK is referred as HJK or Helsingin jalkapalloklubi. HJK Helsinki is just used for international purposes.
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Post by Lommaren on May 31, 2019 14:19:57 GMT -5
It's interesting, because in many ways when there are different teams from the same city or town in Sweden they don't go by acronyms even then, for example Malmö FF and IFK Malmö plus Kalmar FF and Kalmar AIK. Due to the recent successes of the FF clubs though, they've become "Malmö" and "Kalmar" in Swedish media because of the quality gulf between them. Most often of course when there are multiple teams in one town, the others are named after a neighbourhood and only one after the town itself. There's actually one IFK Stockholm in the lower divisions, funnily enough but in big cities especially this is rather common. It also spreads to mid-level locations, two nearby examples of me include: Örebro: Örebro SK, Forward, Karlslund Norrköping: IFK Norrköping, Sleipner, Sylvia It's an interesting difference that Finnish teams usually carry their town or city's name even when they're not the first club founded in town Ariete and seldom the name of a neighbourhood or foreign-inspired names. Anyway, thanks for the explanation! |
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Post by Ariete on May 31, 2019 14:42:25 GMT -5
It's interesting, because in many ways when there are different teams from the same city or town in Sweden they don't go by acronyms even then, for example Malmö FF and IFK Malmö plus Kalmar FF and Kalmar AIK. Due to the recent successes of the FF clubs though, they've become "Malmö" and "Kalmar" in Swedish media because of the quality gulf between them. Most often of course when there are multiple teams in one town, the others are named after a neighbourhood and only one after the town itself. There's actually one IFK Stockholm in the lower divisions, funnily enough but in big cities especially this is rather common. It also spreads to mid-level locations, two nearby examples of me include: Örebro: Örebro SK, Forward, Karlslund Norrköping: IFK Norrköping, Sleipner, Sylvia It's an interesting difference that Finnish teams usually carry their town or city's name even when they're not the first club founded in town Ariete and seldom the name of a neighbourhood or foreign-inspired names. Anyway, thanks for the explanation!
Naming clubs after suburbs is a rather new (since the 60's) phenomenon really. In Helsinki hardly any suburb club has been successful on the national stage, except Kronohagens IF a really long time ago, and more recently Vuosaaren Viikingit, which is referred as 'Viikingit'. In Turku there's only one, Hirvensalon Heitto, and I don't think they have a football division anymore. They used to play in the VI and VII tiers.
FC Lahti is really the only fusion club that has been long-lived and successful, Tampere United and FC Hämeenlinna have all fallen to the lower divisions. Oh and AC Oulu as well, but they have been seemingly doomed to the II tier.
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Post by Lommaren on May 31, 2019 14:48:33 GMT -5
Do they have any decent clubs in Tampere at all now? Also, what about Jyväskylä?
Fusion clubs are taboo in Sweden as you may well know. An FC København would be impossible. They tried some FC Gothia thing between Häcken, Örgryte and GAIS a few years ago but the concept was laughed out of the room.
The thing that does impress me is how RoPS can be such a big club with their climate. Kiruna FF is nowhere near anything even remotely competitive in Sweden (fouth tier), let alone larger towns such as Umeå and Luleå that have never bothered the southern clubs even with rather modest sizes. How on earth do they manage to get players to move to Lapland?
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Post by Ariete on May 31, 2019 15:03:19 GMT -5
Lommaren Ilves Tampere is the biggest football club and one of the biggest sports clubs in Finland. It's most successful division has been the ice hockey one with 16 championships, but the football division won bronze (lilla silver) in 2017. As in Denmark, the big fusion craze was in the 90s, and hardly any new ones have been tried since. Tampere United had quite a sad story but a glorious and sympathetic renewal: www.nytimes.com/2014/05/01/world/europe/fans-lose-soccer-team-then-build-their-own.htmlRoPS is indeed a freak example. I guess the culture has kept the club alive, and it's also well-known for giving new talents a chance who cannot break trough in HJK for example. I've also heard that RoPS takes really good care of their players. Like physically help them move, give sightseeing tours of the city, goes with the players to IKEA to buy furniture etc. Another thing which plays in their favour is that ice hockey has never been successful in Rovaniemi.
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Post by Lommaren on May 31, 2019 15:13:11 GMT -5
Ah, Ilves. That rings a bell.
RoPS is like Tromsø on steroids, really impressive. Do they have indoor training pitches? Otherwise they must really struggle with pre-season with those temperatures?
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Post by Ariete on May 31, 2019 15:25:07 GMT -5
Ah, Ilves. That rings a bell. RoPS is like Tromsø on steroids, really impressive. Do they have indoor training pitches? Otherwise they must really struggle with pre-season with those temperatures?
They actually have only one inside pitch which is 90% of a normal pitch and thus not eligible for official matches. RoPS train mostly on their stadium which has a heated astroturf. Yes, even in -15C.
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Post by Lommaren on Jun 1, 2019 17:02:03 GMT -5
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES Strewthless, where are you, all is forgiven, big HUG to you SIX TIMES FUCKAAAAAAAAN |
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Post by rpvan on Jun 2, 2019 18:56:09 GMT -5
Congrats to Liverpool on winning the champions league. Anyone but Tottenham in my opinion.
Meanwhile...Arsenal look to be stuck in limbo for yet another season.
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Post by Lommaren on Jun 18, 2019 10:13:10 GMT -5
Who did HJK draw for les grandes équipes Ariete? Either way, I saw RoPS were going to play my favs Aberdeen, that'll be interesting to see the result of! |
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Post by Ariete on Jun 18, 2019 11:26:17 GMT -5
Who did HJK draw for les grandes équipes Ariete ? Either way, I saw RoPS were going to play my favs Aberdeen, that'll be interesting to see the result of!
HB Tórshavn.
Yeah, RoPS - Aberdeen, Inter Turku - Bröndby and KuPS - FC Vitebsk (BLR) are the other pairings.
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Post by Ariete on Jun 19, 2019 12:26:33 GMT -5
HJK - HIFK 1-1
FC Lahti - HJK 3-0 (led to the sacking of former manager Lehkosuo)
HJK - Honka Espoo 0-1 (1st win for Honka against HJK in Helsinki since 2010)
Jesus christ.
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