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Post by Giorbanguly on Nov 4, 2021 5:20:08 GMT -5
Think this title race will be between Chelsea and Liverpool
Too early to say who the CL favorites are
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Post by Strewthless on Nov 4, 2021 12:28:17 GMT -5
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Post by Strewthless on Nov 4, 2021 12:45:39 GMT -5
Ryan and Rob attended their first home game on Saturday. The day started well. It was nice and sunny, they both came on the pitch and delivered a speech before the game, they even repeated it in Welsh.
Wrexham scored in the first five minutes. It soured slightly towards the end, Torquay equalised and there were reports of coins being thrown at their fans. 12 Wrexham fans have been given a lifetime bans by the club.
A good day overall for the town and the club, even though a minority of idiots tried their best to take some of the shine off of it.
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Post by Strewthless on Nov 5, 2021 10:08:45 GMT -5
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Post by Strewthless on Nov 5, 2021 14:18:08 GMT -5
Nuno was okay, not a great manager. Just a decent one In football seems like players get a ton of say, so if high volume players disagree with a manager, he will get the sack. Especially nowadays with Instagram and Social Media, players feel like they are bigger than life Bringing this up again; I'm surpised that United didn't move for Conte, he seems like a perfect fit. |
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Post by Ariete on Nov 5, 2021 14:25:37 GMT -5
Bringing this up again; I'm surpised that United didn't move for Conte, he seems like a perfect fit.
Because they are plonkers and thought OGS could still turn this around.
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Post by Strewthless on Nov 5, 2021 17:38:06 GMT -5
How big are Tottenham?
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Post by Giorbanguly on Nov 5, 2021 21:45:24 GMT -5
Nuno was okay, not a great manager. Just a decent one In football seems like players get a ton of say, so if high volume players disagree with a manager, he will get the sack. Especially nowadays with Instagram and Social Media, players feel like they are bigger than life Bringing this up again; I'm surpised that United didn't move for Conte, he seems like a perfect fit. Conte isn't for teams that have long-term ambitions. Mostly for teams with an aging core that want to get a last trophy before it all collapses. But yeah, he would've still been an upgrade over Ole |
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Post by Strewthless on Nov 6, 2021 8:34:34 GMT -5
It would have been a perfect tien to move for him. Ole just lost 5-0 to Liverpool, the team appear to be going in circles, depsite heavy investment and strong recruitment. On paper United arguably have the best squad in the league.
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Post by Ariete on Nov 6, 2021 11:59:16 GMT -5
Norwich looked like a proper PL side for 45 minutes, and this time it was enough. First win, with Pukki scoring the winning goal from the spot.
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Post by Strewthless on Nov 6, 2021 12:44:51 GMT -5
Norwich urgently need a decent striker  Pukki's BPL record so far is horrendous. Championship level player. |
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Post by Ariete on Nov 6, 2021 12:53:50 GMT -5
Norwich urgently need a decent striker Pukki's BPL record so far is horrendous.
Norwich needs players who can create chances for the strikers.
I can't see how Pukki can be blamed. Norwich has scored 5 goals in total this season in the PL and Pukki has scored 3 of them. In the World Cup qualis he has scored 6 goals in 6 matches, so it's not that his finishing has been rubbish.
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Post by Strewthless on Nov 6, 2021 12:57:51 GMT -5
Norwich urgently need a decent striker Pukki's BPL record so far is horrendous. Norwich needs players who can create chances for the strikers. I can't see how Pukki can be blamed. Norwich has scored 5 goals in total this season in the PL and Pukki has scored 3 of them. In the World Cup qualis he has scored 6 goals in 6 matches, so it's not that his finishing has been rubbish.
I watch the highlights show every week, he misses plenty of chances and has poor movement. You hype him up all the time, but he's crap. Sorry. |
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Post by Ariete on Nov 6, 2021 13:02:48 GMT -5
I watch the highlights show every week, he misses plenty of chances and has poor movement. You hype him up all the time, but he's crap. Sorry.
While I can agree that he hasn't converted necessarily the chances in the manner we have been used to, I think the poor movement argument is pretty unfair. He just doesn't get enough support from his teammates.
And he's one of my favourite players, so of course I hype him up, and often it has been justified. |
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Post by Strewthless on Nov 6, 2021 13:06:43 GMT -5
I watch the highlights show every week, he misses plenty of chances and has poor movement. You hype him up all the time, but he's crap. Sorry.
While I can agree that he hasn't converted necessarily the chances in the manner we have been used to, I think the poor movement argument is pretty unfair. He just doesn't get enough support from his teammates.
And he's one of my favourite players, so of course I hype him up, and often it has been justified. He's a great championship-level player. Slightly below BPL standard, hence why no big team has ever made a move for him, despite his affordable price tag. He's not "crap", I was just shitposting, but I think he is Championship level. His career stats certainly suggest that, but he has had a great international career for Finland tbf. |
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Post by Ariete on Nov 6, 2021 13:13:53 GMT -5
He's a great championship-level player. Slightly below BPL standard, hence why no big team has ever made a move for him, despite his affordable price tag.
He scored 11 goals last time in the PL with by far the worst side, so he has clearly showed he can do well in the PL. 55 goals in 84 Championship games again show that he's well above that level.
His age is probably the biggest stepping stone. He will be 32 in March. If he'd be 25, some better PL team would've surely bought him after the 2018-2019 campaign.
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Post by Strewthless on Nov 6, 2021 13:19:49 GMT -5
He's a great championship-level player. Slightly below BPL standard, hence why no big team has ever made a move for him, despite his affordable price tag.
He scored 11 goals last time in the PL with by far the worst side, so he has clearly showed he can do well in the PL. 55 goals in 84 Championship games again show that he's well above that level.
His age is probably the biggest stepping stone. He will be 32 in March. If he'd be 25, some better PL team would've surely bought him after the 2018-2019 campaign.
Yet has 14 goals and just 3 assists in 47 BPL games. There's nothing special about that, even taking the quality of service into consideration. Football is littered with strikers with the same story. Wonderful in the Championship, anonymous after promotion. |
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Post by Ariete on Nov 6, 2021 13:50:54 GMT -5
Yet has 14 goals and just 3 assists in 47 BPL games. There's nothing special about that, even taking the quality of service into consideration. Football is littered with strikers with the same story. Wonderful in the Championship, anonymous after promotion.
Yes, that's true, but you have to keep in mind that Norwich has scored only 31 goals in 49 BPL games, so Pukki has scored 45% of all their goals. For example last season Salah scored 32% of Liverpool's EPL goals.
Would be interesting to see what Pukki could do with a remotely decent side, like Tottenham. But because he plays for such a hopeless team, I don't think we will know how good/bad Pukki really is.
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Post by Strewthless on Nov 6, 2021 15:38:03 GMT -5
Yet has 14 goals and just 3 assists in 47 BPL games. There's nothing special about that, even taking the quality of service into consideration. Football is littered with strikers with the same story. Wonderful in the Championship, anonymous after promotion.
Yes, that's true, but you have to keep in mind that Norwich has scored only 31 goals in 49 BPL games, so Pukki has scored 45% of all their goals. For example last season Salah scored 32% of Liverpool's EPL goals.
Would be interesting to see what Pukki could do with a remotely decent side, like Tottenham. But because he plays for such a hopeless team, I don't think we will know how good/bad Pukki really is.
That says more about how crap Norwich are than how good Pukki is. You won't see him in a remotely decent side, because none of them rate him. Their scouts know a hell of a lot more about football than we do, and they've never shown interest in him. You overrate him. |
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Post by Ariete on Nov 6, 2021 15:56:46 GMT -5
That says more about how crap Norwich are than how good Pukki is. You won't see him in a remotely decent side, because none of them rate him. Their scouts know a hell of a lot more about football than we do, and they've never shown interest in him. You overrate him.
Absolutely, my point was indeed that 11 goals for a hopeless side is as much you could hope for.
I admit that he hasn't proven himself to be solid EPL performer, partly because of the club he plays for. But I don't overrate him. If you'd ask me 6 years ago that will Pukki ever play for a EPL side and score 14 goals for them, my reply would've been "no".
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