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Post by Lommaren on Aug 20, 2018 10:28:24 GMT -5
You know the deal: wet winters, dry summers. Temperatures can vary from arctic climates through California's northern coastline all the way to the upper regions of the Middle East.
What I'm asking for, however, is how you feel about a general mediterranean pattern?
As for me it's a B: I don't like cold rain, but I also am not a fan of lightning strikes (one almost struck my house and did some damage the other day) and not a fan of having clouds and rain ruin the warm season. On the other hand, drought is not so good either, especially because wildfires are absolutely terrible. In Sweden there never seems to be any in between sadly. Either it's full-on drought or horrific crummer weather. I think probably 30-40 mm would be ideal for a summer month.
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Post by Steelernation on Aug 20, 2018 10:36:32 GMT -5
Generic? There is no set rating for a whole climate type!
Southern California climates are mostly D-, European Mediterranean climates are mostly Ds. Some places in inland Spain or central Italy can get as high as B- or B, some places in Northern California can get Es. Wet places in the PNW get Fs, thereโs dry summer places in the inland northwest that can get Bs or even B+.
In other words, they can range from F- to B+.
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Post by Lommaren on Aug 20, 2018 10:50:15 GMT -5
Generic? There is no set rating for a whole climate type!Southern California climates are mostly D-, European Mediterranean climates are mostly Ds. Some places in inland Spain or central Italy can get as high as B- or B, some places in Northern California can get Es. Wet places in the PNW get Fs, thereโs dry summer places in the inland northwest that can get Bs or even B+. In other words, they can range from F- to B+. Sure but I meant the precipitation pattern. |
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Post by jgtheone on Aug 20, 2018 11:00:28 GMT -5
A++++++++++++++++++++
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 11:18:11 GMT -5
E. Crap. I like dry winter subtropical with thunder storms in summer.
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Post by Donar on Aug 20, 2018 11:25:16 GMT -5
E. The only mediterranean climates I like are those which are only borderline mediterranean like Barcelona. Hardcore mediterranean climates like Jerusalem are boring as fuck.
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Post by Steelernation on Aug 20, 2018 11:40:03 GMT -5
Sure but I meant the precipitation pattern. F-. I canโt stand cold rain and while I like relatively dry summers, I still want a decent amount of storms which most wouldnโt get. |
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Post by rozenn on Aug 20, 2018 17:25:14 GMT -5
You know the deal: wet winters, dry summers. Temperatures can vary from arctic climates through California's northern coastline all the way to the upper regions of the Middle East.
What I'm asking for, however, is how you feel about a general mediterranean pattern?
As for me it's a B: I don't like cold rain, but I also am not a fan of lightning strikes (one almost struck my house and did some damage the other day) and not a fan of having clouds and rain ruin the warm season. On the other hand, drought is not so good either, especially because wildfires are absolutely terrible. In Sweden there never seems to be any in between sadly. Either it's full-on drought or horrific crummer weather. I think probably 30-40 mm would be ideal for a summer month.
Not a fan of lightning strikes? Staying in Europe, the shores of the Med are about the worst place you could head to:  As for the pattern, it's an E. It's definitely one of the worst patterns out there, but the F grade is reserved for B climates. The thing I hate the most regarding Med climates is the crappy vegetation such a pattern is able to support. All that rain in autumn/winter for pretty much a bunch of shrubs. Pathetic stuff, thank God for exotic transplants.  |
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Post by Lommaren on Aug 20, 2018 17:27:29 GMT -5
Barcelona and Genoa for example are either or pretty much humid subtropical climates though rozenn . The primary Eurafrican mediterranean ridge is located in Southern Spain, Portugal, Algeria and Morocco after all.
Then the eastern part of the Med has an even greater Middle Eastern mediterranean ridge due to the even drier summers. I like the sight of lightning strikes but don't want them within two miles of me.
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Post by alex992 on Aug 20, 2018 17:31:52 GMT -5
F-; horrid, nothing more I hate than drought-y summers.
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Post by ๐๐ฟMรถrรถn๐๐ฟ on Aug 20, 2018 17:35:04 GMT -5
F-
Worst precip pattern by far.
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Post by rozenn on Aug 20, 2018 18:23:29 GMT -5
Barcelona and Genoa for example are either or pretty much humid subtropical climates though rozenn . The primary Eurafrican mediterranean ridge is located in Southern Spain, Portugal, Algeria and Morocco after all.
Then the eastern part of the Med has an even greater Middle Eastern mediterranean ridge due to the even drier summers. I like the sight of lightning strikes but don't want them within two miles of me.
Most of the storms occur in autumn, spring and June. As for the cities you mentioned, vegetation is still very much sclerophyllous in both locales. The meager 25 mm average July precip is the defining parameter regarding what can and can't grow there, and that 25 mm is an average skewed by a few storms; the median is likely in the single digits. Precip is too erratic to be dependable in summer, even in the northern fringes of the Med. For example, during the three Julys I spent in Nice only 1.8 mm fell. Then this past July within a couple hours it got almost twice its monthly average rainfall. Hell, its wettest July ever (90 mm) had only one day with precip. Granted, Nice is quite a bit drier than both in summer, but the same pattern holds true in its Italian and Spanish neighbors. There are no real humid climates near Barcelona, but the difference in landscape between Genoa and the humid subtropical Po plain a few dozen kilometers to the north is tremendous, be it in winter or summer. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 18:43:45 GMT -5
B, so long as it doesn't become desert-like in summer.
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Post by AJ1013 on Aug 20, 2018 18:49:27 GMT -5
F
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Post by Hiromant on Aug 21, 2018 3:54:51 GMT -5
C. I don't mind periods of dryness but the whole summer would be too long.
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Post by grega94 on Aug 21, 2018 8:52:48 GMT -5
I voted "B" , I like having sunny and dry summers that don't ruin your outdoor plans. That being said some summer rainfall is appreciated as it prevents those horrible wildfires, and water stressed plants don't look all that great either. So I think the best would be a borderline Mediterranean climate that has a less pronounced dry season. California probably has the worst variant since their dry season lasts so long and is extremely dry.
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Post by firebird1988 on Aug 23, 2018 22:16:46 GMT -5
A, my favorite climate type (the hot summer variety anyway); I hate summer rain, but don't mind it in winter. Moving to either San Diego or LA in about 3-4 years, so I'll get my wish in time
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Post by firebird1988 on Aug 23, 2018 22:19:09 GMT -5
I voted "B" , I like having sunny and dry summers that don't ruin your outdoor plans. That being said some summer rainfall is appreciated as it prevents those horrible wildfires, and water stressed plants don't look all that great either. So I think the best would be a borderline Mediterranean climate that has a less pronounced dry season. California probably has the worst variant since their dry season lasts so long and is extremely dry. Salt Lake City would probably be ideal for you depending on how cold you like your winter or not; they get a pronounced summer dry season, just barely missing Koppen's cut off for Dsa, but not rainless, due to the occasional monsoon incursion |
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Post by ral31 on Aug 25, 2018 11:04:23 GMT -5
E. Mediterranean climates with a less pronounced summer dry season may be tolerable.
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Post by Babu on Aug 25, 2018 11:09:40 GMT -5
I'm more of a W type than S type; winter precipitation is redundant because plant life is dormant anyway (this is true for 4 seasonal climates at least). However, I think the yellow grass with lush green deciduous trees that almost all of Europe has had this summer is absolutely stunning.
I want enough precipitation to have nice deciduous forests like the ones in western Europe and New England, but if it's possible I'd like the summer to turn yellow each summer.
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