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Post by Ariete on Oct 4, 2018 12:31:42 GMT -5
September was rather cool in Lapland (compared to the south at least) so no Finnish stations which haven't previously recorded 5 months with a mean above 10C didn't do so this year either. The northernmost station which did was probably Kemi-Tornio Airport. For example Rovaniemi did not.
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Post by Lommaren on Oct 4, 2018 13:14:52 GMT -5
Turku Rajakari had the warmest mean in Finland in September, Record high: 22.5C Average high: 17.2C Mean: 14.9C Average low: 12.6C Record low: 6.0C Out on the fringes of the archipelago?
Turku's main station fell beneath the frost line once didn't it? Either way, I definitely think parts of Nyköping's urban area on the outskirts fell beneath 0°C on the 29th, but that the area where I live most likely didn't. So it'll be difficult to say when the first annual frost actually was/is going to be this year when it's such a marginal case. Luckily the Baba fake station at Skavsta will soon record -40°C during the first proper cold snap if you ask him
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Post by Ariete on Oct 4, 2018 13:18:04 GMT -5
Turku Rajakari had the warmest mean in Finland in September, Record high: 22.5C Average high: 17.2C Mean: 14.9C Average low: 12.6C Record low: 6.0C Out on the fringes of the archipelago?
Turku's main station fell beneath the frost line once didn't it? Either way, I definitely think parts of Nyköping's urban area on the outskirts fell beneath 0°C on the 29th, but that the area where I live most likely didn't. So it'll be difficult to say when the first annual frost actually was/is going to be this year when it's such a marginal case. Luckily the Baba fake station at Skavsta will soon record -40°C during the first proper cold snap if you ask him
Yes, Artukainen had a freeze on the 29th.
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Post by Ariete on Oct 4, 2018 13:55:58 GMT -5
Here I will demonstrate why severe UHI weather stations aren't really a good thing. The Tampere Härmälä station is in a leafy suburb, less than 4 km from the Tampella station which is in the core centre. Both are official FMI stations within WMO standards.
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Post by Babu on Oct 4, 2018 14:34:12 GMT -5
According to SMHI's mean calculation methods, Luleå managed 5 months at 65.5°N and Haparanda at 65.8 failed with 9.9'C for September (and 9.35 using max/min). Doesn't seem like anywhere north of Luleå managed 5 months.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 15:01:26 GMT -5
this should give a good idea of how much the UHI affects the temperatures for the gothenburg station.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 15:02:05 GMT -5
i meant NW of, not NE
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Post by Babu on Oct 4, 2018 15:13:39 GMT -5
I've looked at that station too. I have a hard time imagining UHI would create such a difference at day. Some, sure, but 2.5'C is just weird. Looking at the Tampere station, at least the highs are the same.
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Post by Giorbanguly on Oct 4, 2018 15:21:22 GMT -5
Central Park is about 3F colder than Newark or LGA too, but I think it's less of UHI and more of being in a really wooded area. If it was UHI, it would be the overnight lows that would be affected more
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Post by Morningrise on Oct 4, 2018 22:38:59 GMT -5
September was pretty much a write-off in Saskatoon. The first 9 days of the month were normal and the rest of it was colder than an average October The snowfall we got toward the end of the month was pretty cool and an interesting novelty as a weather enthusiast, but that was about it. This was the coldest and gloomiest September I can remember. This would've been great in November and okay in October, but it's a real let-down in September, especially considering we already had phenomenal cold in April - two non-frigid months down the drain this year and now October seems to be continuing that trend The mean temperature for September was about 4C colder than average, and 10C colder than August. Quite a shock to the system after the epic summer we had. It was also very cloudy with 146 hours of sunshine, 50 hours less than average and only 13 hours more than we had this past January - a definitive farewell to the above average streak of sunshine we'd had for most of the year. Here are the stats: Average high: 12.9C (normal: 18.3C) Average low: 2.0C (normal: 4.5C) Mean temperature: 7.4C (normal: 11.4C) Highest high: 23.5C (Sept 6th) Highest low: 11.4C (Sept 8th) Lowest high: 2.0C (Sept 22nd) Lowest low: -8.7C (Sept 30th) Precipitation total: 37.1mm (normal: 35.4mm) Precipitation days: 14 (normal: 8) Sunshine hours: 146.0 (normal: 192.5)
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Post by Steelernation on Oct 4, 2018 22:56:29 GMT -5
AJ1013 here’s Tucson: Looks pretty shitty with the above average winter and already getting consistent heat in April.
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Post by AJ1013 on Oct 4, 2018 23:14:17 GMT -5
Steelernation My eyes are burning. Every single month is significantly above average
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Post by AJ1013 on Oct 4, 2018 23:53:15 GMT -5
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Post by firebird1988 on Oct 5, 2018 5:38:43 GMT -5
August of 2011 was our hottest August ever and tied with July 2009 for our hottest month ever
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Post by Giorbanguly on Oct 6, 2018 7:20:42 GMT -5
September was pretty much a write-off in Saskatoon. The first 9 days of the month were normal and the rest of it was colder than an average October Oh my goodness, that's fucking horrible. 146 sunshine hours and 12.9C average highs ~ wtf! This has to be one of the worst Septembers of all time Cold springs suck ass, so I can imagine that a frigid autumn feels horrible too
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Post by Ariete on Oct 6, 2018 7:51:25 GMT -5
September was pretty much a write-off in Saskatoon. The first 9 days of the month were normal and the rest of it was colder than an average October Oh my goodness, that's fucking horrible. 146 sunshine hours and 12.9C average highs ~ wtf! This has to be one of the worst Septembers of all time Cold springs suck ass, so I can imagine that a frigid autumn feels horrible too
Indeed. Totally catastrophic April and September. I looked at Turku and it has had one September as cold/colder than that since 1959, and it was as recently as 1993, so statistically I should be spared from those.
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Post by Giorbanguly on Oct 6, 2018 7:56:06 GMT -5
North America especially the eastern part is very prone to getting absolutely catastrophic spring months. Bunghole had 8C average highs this April for example, which is little better than the abortion they got in Saskatoon. Your average September in Eastern NA is still going to be pretty good though, which is why the September they got is so shocking! Even the coldest Septembers of all time from the shitty Central Park station still got average highs over 20C
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Post by Crunch41 on Oct 7, 2018 20:37:09 GMT -5
North America especially the eastern part is very prone to getting absolutely catastrophic spring months. Bunghole had 8C average highs this April for example, which is little better than the abortion they got in Saskatoon. Your average September in Eastern NA is still going to be pretty good though, which is why the September they got is so shocking! Even the coldest Septembers of all time from the shitty Central Park station still got average highs over 20C Same for me in the Midwest. The coldest September in Madison (since 1869) is 5.8F/3.2C and the warmest 6.7F/3.7C from the mean. That's the narrowest range of any month even summer months.
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Post by Babu on Oct 8, 2018 5:37:53 GMT -5
About 2-3'C above average across the board compared to 61-90 data; about 0.5-1.5'C above average compared to 91-17. Nothing record breaking, but a good September either way. Above average across the board in terms of sunshine, and about 50-80% of average precipitation in most places. Nothing record breaking here either.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Oct 8, 2018 16:15:37 GMT -5
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