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Post by Ariete on May 30, 2018 9:35:58 GMT -5
Yeah, that's really only the far north of Finland. Finland is hardly Eureka. My sister went to Helsinki back in October 2016 and said one resident told her that it's always -30 C in winter and the sun never goes up....in Helsinki. I told her straight up that it was bullshit, but of course her argument was "the guy lives there, he'd know".....
Yeah you've told this before. But as we both know "regular" people know shit about weather and climate. I've gotten heads to explode for explaining that it doesn't rain 50% of the time in summer, the sun shines more often than 20% of the time and that August is warmer than June.
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Post by alex992 on May 30, 2018 9:43:44 GMT -5
Yeah, that's really only the far north of Finland. Finland is hardly Eureka. My sister went to Helsinki back in October 2016 and said one resident told her that it's always -30 C in winter and the sun never goes up....in Helsinki. I told her straight up that it was bullshit, but of course her argument was "the guy lives there, he'd know".....
Yeah you've told this before. But as we both know "regular" people know shit about weather and climate. I've gotten heads to explode for explaining that it doesn't rain 50% of the time in summer, the sun shines more often than 20% of the time and that August is warmer than June.
I also feel like residents will exaggerate their local weather to tourists or out of towners, relying on their ignorance, to make them seem "tougher" or like "survivors" and for shock value. That guy knows damn well it ain't -30 C all winter, or completely dark, he just saw a couple of people from Florida and knew he could exaggerate and they wouldn't bother fact checking the guy.
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Post by Ariete on May 30, 2018 9:56:10 GMT -5
I also feel like residents will exaggerate their local weather to tourists or out of towners, relying on their ignorance, to make them seem "tougher" or like "survivors" and for shock value. That guy knows damn well it ain't -30 C all winter, or completely dark, he just saw a couple of people from Florida and knew he could exaggerate and they wouldn't bother fact checking the guy.
I actually discussed this with a person who works for the Helsinki bureau of tourism, and she said that all this exaggeration like "when it's -400C Finns take off their coat and bask in the sun" harms tourism, because it scares away people. She relatively frequently encountered people who said they would love to visit if it wasn't so damn cold.
Even more I find it ridiculous when we are having a debate if the football season should be be longer, but one of the arguments are that "spectators won't come in 1C weather to watch"...
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Post by Crunch41 on Jun 1, 2018 21:40:17 GMT -5
Inukjuak has now gone more than a month without reaching freezing. However, it's supposed to reach +4 on Sunday and +1 or +2 the next few days...so it will get above freezing for the first time this month soon! What an awful climate. On the other hand, some stations in the Canadian high arctic haven't reached freezing yet and aren't going to soon. Normal is late May or early June. Alert turns later than Eureka, but Resolute seems to take a little longer than even Alert and there might be an even colder station somewhere. Extreme Max/min for the next week for a few places:
Resolute -11 to -2 Alert -14 to -7 (Brr...) Eureka -12 to -4 Grise Fiord -12 to -4 Cape Dyer -11 to -5 Mould Bay -8 to -2
Iqaluit -7 to +1 Arviat -4 to +5 (summer?) May in Inukjuak: Max/Min +4.0/-20.3, Average -6.8 (several days are missing data) The first above-freezing temperature was on May 27th. That day it reached +4C....but it was raining with a 35km/h wind at the time.
Forecast June 2nd-8th. This is the overall min and max over 7 days, not the daily average.
Inukjuak, QC -4 to +6 Resolute, NU -7 to -1 Alert, NU -9 to -3 Eureka, NU -6 to -1 Grise Fiord, NU -6 to -3 Cape Dyer, NU -9 to -3 Mould Bay, NT -6 to -1 Iqaluit, NU -4 to +2 Arviat, NU -3 to +3 Nain, NL -1 to +7 Sanikiluaq, NU -4 to +3 (as far south as Nain, but colder for now)
Inuvik is looking warm right now, every day next week will reach the mid to high teens.
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Post by jgtheone on Jun 1, 2018 21:49:32 GMT -5
I get annoyed when any media says "finland might see -40c temps and the sun doesn't set in summer or rise in winter". While it is true, it doesn't represent what most people living here experience. After all, Lapland has a smaller population than the city of Turku You know what's worse? "The sahara drops to 0°C!!!11111"
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Post by knot on Jun 1, 2018 21:51:45 GMT -5
You know what's worse? "The sahara drops to 0°C!!!11111" Ah yes, the common notion that deserts are seemingly "always cold by nightfall". Bloody wrong, they is!
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Jun 6, 2018 12:14:22 GMT -5
Interesting anomalous of warmth in Greenland with a big area around 20C. Per this map Akureyri, Iceland is 15C.
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Post by Hlidskjalf on Jun 7, 2018 7:00:54 GMT -5
Norilsk is warming up quickly now They can expect daytime highs up to 20c the next week. That must be pretty awesome after a horrific winter that startet back in late september. The snow melt must be rather spectacular as well. They can now expect almost 4 months of temperatures above freezing.
Khatanga at 72N is even more impressive now with daytime highs as high between 16 and 26c (!) the next 10 days.
Vorkuta is still struggling with highs between 1 and 8c, but at least its above freezing.
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Post by jgtheone on Jun 7, 2018 8:16:42 GMT -5
Interesting anomalous of warmth in Greenland with a big area around 20C. Per this map Akureyri, Iceland is 15C. I'm willing to bet that's around Kangerlussuaq or however it's spelt, they get July temps of around 6C/17C
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 10:52:32 GMT -5
colder than normal in the far north of sweden. only temperatures in the single figures.
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Post by jgtheone on Jun 10, 2018 10:56:03 GMT -5
Some sleet, which is unfortunate but at least it's down to temperatures that are more typical for this time of year.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Jun 16, 2018 1:55:05 GMT -5
Insane warmth in Siberia. Norilsk is 30C at the moment! 30.4C is the record high for June there. Bejing is 32C while Tokyo/Asahikawa are 18C. Very warm west of Anadyr as well. Close up of western China and eastern Kyrgyzstan:
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Jun 18, 2018 19:58:41 GMT -5
Canadian temps at 6:00pm Pacific British ColumbiaVancouver - 26C North Vancouver - 28C Squamish - 29C Bella Coola - 31C Port Alberni - 30C Victoria - 25C Kamloops - 32C Revelstoke - 27C Fernie - 16C Prince George - 29C Prince Rupert - 18C Terrace - 32C Kitimat - 32C YukonWhitehorse - 24C Mayo - 27C Herschel - 2C Snag - 24C Haines Junction - 19C Northwest TerritoriesTuktoyaktuk - 9C Inuvik - 24C Yellowknife - 20C Fort Liard - 29C AlbertaEdmonton - 25C Calgary - 19C Lethbridge - 15C SaskatchewanSaskatoon - 26C Regina - 23C Yorkton - 23C Fond-du-Lac - 26C NunavutCopper Mine - 13C Ennadai - 14C Baker Lake - 8C Cape Dorset - 3C Iqaluit - 5C Alert - 0C Gjoa Haven - 3C Resolute - 2C ManitobaChurchill - 9C Thompson - 26C Belcher - 21C Winnipeg - 23C OntarioTimmins - 16C Sudbury - 20C Thunder Bay - 20C Moose Factory - 12C Ottawa - 20C Windsor - 27C London - 22C Toronto - 23C QuébecVal-d'Or - 16C Montréal - 21C Québec - 20C Sept-Iles - 10C Schefferville - 10C Inukjuak - 3C Ivugivik - 1C New Brunswick/Nova Scotia/etcFredericton - 21C Bathurst - 16C Miramichi - 19C Halifax - 13C Charlottetown - 16C Newfoundland and LabradorNain - 5C Happy Valley - 10C Corner Brook - 9C Saint John's - 6C Gander - 8C Woody Point - 8C
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Post by Crunch41 on Jun 24, 2018 21:37:29 GMT -5
When will Inukjuak reach 0? 10? 0C is likely later this month. Last 0C was early December. 10C will be a while. Last 10C was late September and April's record high is only 7. Eureka usually gets above freezing in late May. But Resolute or a few other places can take until early June. Inukjuak reached +10.6C at 11am on June 16th.
Eureka had a max of 0.0 on June 3rd and +1.2 on June 6th
Resolute had a max of +2.8 on June 4th (and +10.3 on June 15th!)
Alert had a max of +0.3 on June 9th
So Resolute reached +10 before Inukjuak . It's at 74.7N, one of the coldest inhabited places in the world, and the average high in June is only +2.6. Inukjuak is at 58.8N and their average high in June is +8.4.
Edit: a few more from Ogimet. Edit2: more than a few
Canada:
Grise Fiord (76.4N) max of +0.9 on May 31st, highest so far +6.9
Greenland: Kap Morris Jesup (83.7N) max of +0.6 and +0.1 on May 2nd-3rd, then below freezing until June 13th, highest so far +4.3 Nord AWS (81.6N) max of +1.2 on May 3rd, then below freezing May 7th-June 15th, highest so far +6.7 Summit (72.6N, 3202m): highest -3.6 Henrik Kroeyer Holme (80.7N): max of +0.2 on May 2nd, below freezing May 7th-June 15th, highest so far +0.8
Russia:
Ostrov Vize (79.5N) max of +0.1 on April 22nd, then below freezing until June 6th, highest so far +1.5 Ostrov Golomjannyj (79.6N) max of +0.2 on June 7th, highest so far +4.0 Cape Lopatka from that sun angle thread (50.9N) first +0C January 1st, first +5C May 19th, first +10C May 31st, but only two 10C days so far this summer.
Svalbard: Karl XII Oya (80.7N) max of +0.2 on January 11th, highest so far is just +4.2 on May 5th, lowest in 2018 was only-19.7 on April 4th--at 80 degrees north that's extremely mild. Svalbard Lufthavn (78.3N) max of +0.6 January 11th, first +10 June 17th highest so far +11.5C, lowest for the winter only -19.6. Three +10C days this summer.
Also, there is a station in Canada at 82.5N and 1242m, CWWM " Grant Automatic Weather Reporting System". And 81.0N 829m, CWKU "Whiskey Automated Reporting Station". Too bad they don't have any data--probably extreme cold all year there
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Post by nei on Jun 25, 2018 9:58:29 GMT -5
Canadian temps at 6:00pm Pacific Warm temperatures in Yukon. Mountains by Terrace and Kitmat must have lots of melting snow and maybe glacier melt; rivers should be roaring.
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Post by nei on Jun 25, 2018 9:59:46 GMT -5
Sea ice extent in Alaska was near record lows; but very little more melted this June so it's now back to close to average. The anomalously warm region melted out while further north is normal?
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Post by knot on Jun 25, 2018 21:39:05 GMT -5
Grytviken, South Georgia, South Atlantic Ocean; 4 m AMSL; 54° 16' 51.96" S.
"Grytviken is just cold rain" or "Grytviken only gets slushy sleet" LMFAO
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Post by knot on Jun 25, 2018 21:43:13 GMT -5
Mount Kosciuszko, New South Wales, Australia; 1,957 m AMSL; 36° 29' 30.12" S.
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Post by knot on Jun 25, 2018 21:46:24 GMT -5
Mount Cook, New Zealand, South Pacific Ocean; 3,366 m AMSL; 43° 35' 42.00" S.
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Post by knot on Jun 25, 2018 21:49:27 GMT -5
Mount Paget, South Georgia, South Atlantic Ocean; 2,933 m AMSL; 54° 26' 26.88" S.
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