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Post by AJ1013 on Jul 5, 2019 11:45:31 GMT -5
Interesting idea. For about 2.5 billion dollars a year it would be possible to completely mitigate the warming effects of human caused greenhouse gas increases. This could be done by spraying 5 million tons of so2 (Sulphur Dioxide), a natural reflective aerosol, into the stratosphere on an annual basis. Negative effects from such an action would be minimal, the biggest of which would be a very slight decrease in global precipitation and slight harm to the ozone if such aerosols were distributed incorrectly. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_aerosol_injection |
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Post by Hiromant on Jul 6, 2019 3:06:42 GMT -5
You people can't just label everything your side says "overblown alarmism and not real climate change" to wipe it under the rug. Enough with the backpedaling. This sort of baseless hysteria is the official position of world powers, as well as the scientists, the media and the gullible masses they control. 1) The Guardian link — vague; doesn't say how much warming; the lots of warming will hurt people the most seems true 2) Breitbart — it's Breitbart and just political 1. The vagueness is exactly the point: it doesn't pay for a false prophet to be too specific.
2. Well it's a good thing mainstream sources are apolitical paragons of objectivity then. Also note how most of the article is verbatim citations so your usual attempts to discredit the source carry little weight. |
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Post by nei on Jul 6, 2019 9:34:50 GMT -5
1) The Guardian link — vague; doesn't say how much warming; the lots of warming will hurt people the most seems true 2) Breitbart — it's Breitbart and just political 1. The vagueness is exactly the point: it doesn't pay for a false prophet to be too specific.
not really; typically climate change predictions are for a given amount of temperature warming or greenhouse gas emissions emissions. This gives no details, "other than lots of warming will be bad things". The IPCC report isn't vague, it says quite clearly where there is more certainty and where there isn't + has lots of number and specific ranges. where did I say mainstream media sources were particularly good? If you go through my posts, I rarely use those. My point was the article was about politics not science; it only quotes politicians, so the citations are irrelevant. Rereading your post, apparently your point was on what officials are saying? |
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Post by knot on Jul 8, 2019 5:53:38 GMT -5
nah it really was that hot there. Check Skwentna's forecast... Unfortunately, Alaskan climate data doesn't have very long records since it is a pretty young state still. I am sure it has been above 90F in Anchorage in the past 119 years at least once. Definitely very rare though. Just recalled now that the Alaskan record still stands at 100° F in June 1915; held at Fort Yukon, 66.6° N. Would certainly be interesting if Anchorage had records spanning that far back. |
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Post by Hiromant on Jul 9, 2019 6:22:56 GMT -5
An interesting video about the extreme American weather year of 1936 that included record heat, record cold, record drought, record floods and record tornadoes. More than 12000 people died in the heat alone. The death toll of the recent "unprecedented" European heatwave? "Several," lol. By the way, CO 2 levels were under 300 ppm back then.
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Post by Ariete on Jul 9, 2019 8:44:45 GMT -5
An interesting video about the extreme American weather year of 1936 that included record heat, record cold, record drought, record floods and record tornadoes. More than 12000 people died in the heat alone. The death toll of the recent "unprecedented" European heatwave? "Several," lol. By the way, CO 2 levels were under 300 ppm back then.
During the 2003 Central European heatwave around 30,000 people died.
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Post by Ariete on Jul 10, 2019 11:12:29 GMT -5
David Attenborough says it's 'extraordinary' climate deniers are in power in Australia
Celebrated naturalist’s most vivid impression of human impact on the planet is Great Barrier Reef bleaching
David Attenborough has highlighted Australia as an “extraordinary” example of a country where people in power remained climate change deniers despite the country facing some of the worst effects of global heating.
Appearing before the UK parliament’s business, energy and industrial strategy committee on how to tackle the climate emergency, the celebrated broadcaster and natural historian was asked about claims people were overreacting to the threat of a climate emergency.
He replied: “I am sorry that there are people who are in power … notably, of course, [in] the United States but also in Australia [who are climate change deniers], which is extraordinary because Australia is already facing having to deal with some of the most extreme manifestations of climate change.
Asked to recall his most vivid impressions of humans’ impact on the planet, Attenborough said it was returning to the Great Barrier Reef, where he had first dived in the 1950s.
“I will never forget diving on the reef about 10 years ago and suddenly seeing that instead of this multitude of wonderful forms and life that it was stark white. It had bleached white because of the rising temperatures and the increasing acidity of the sea,” he said.
Attenborough said radical action was needed to tackle the climate emergency – “we cannot be radical enough” – but also called for pragmatism in working out what was possible and how best to convince the public of the need for change.
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Post by knot on Jul 10, 2019 17:20:04 GMT -5
It's easy for such a senile fellow to get brainwashed by the alarmist inquisitionists, Ariete...
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Post by Hiromant on Jul 11, 2019 2:22:23 GMT -5
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Post by Hiromant on Jul 11, 2019 8:29:08 GMT -5
Local media has been jumping on the alarmism bandwagon as well recently. Today's article claims the Estonian climate will be similar to Slovakia in 30 years. But wait, I thought the planet wouldn't support life in 12? Great timing as well as we're in an Arctic blast with balmy 12-16°C highs and ground frosts forecasted for tonight. Fortunately none of the commenters are believing it.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Jul 14, 2019 22:38:39 GMT -5
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Post by knot on Jul 14, 2019 22:55:38 GMT -5
Just shows how hard-to-use NOAA datasets really are...can't even fact-check the bastards! To buggery with them; BOM>>>>>>>NOAA/NWS. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Jul 14, 2019 23:00:41 GMT -5
I retrieved the data from the NOAA link he posted as well.
It's all there for anyone to see. I'm sure the real "scientists" will try to come up with excuses as to its validity though.
"It's not part of the modern record therefore it never happened!11!!!1!"
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Post by Crunch41 on Jul 15, 2019 0:05:12 GMT -5
Highest temperature for June 1915 for Alaska stations (NWS data).  1931 had a 90 for Anchorage too. The merrill field station, not the current station. Unless they discarded this station as inaccurate, 100 should be the record high for Anchorage (and tied for Alaska). This report is buried in the menus for xmacis.rcc-acis.org/ |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Jul 15, 2019 0:40:38 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Merrill Field is still actively being used, as a domestic airport and weather station. Between it and Ted Stevens International Airport, they are the two primary or "official" weather stations in Anchorage.
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Post by Crunch41 on Jul 15, 2019 5:49:51 GMT -5
The station location on xmacis is in a parking lot. Maybe it was there in 1915, but now it has to be somewhere else nearby.  |
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Post by lab276 on Jul 17, 2019 0:25:49 GMT -5
Sydney heading for a third consecutive warm dry and sunny July. This has easily turned into the worst month. I'm all for global warming in summer, last January was fabulous, but of course, it comes at the expense of winter, and we've really lost out for a number of years here in Sydney.
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Post by knot on Jul 17, 2019 0:58:35 GMT -5
Sydney heading for a third consecutive warm dry and sunny July. This has easily turned into the worst month. I'm all for global warming in summer, last January was fabulous, but of course, it comes at the expense of winter, and we've really lost out for a number of years here in Sydney. Certainly not the case down here; winter definitely gets colder nowadays, albeit much drier. –10° C or lower readings are becoming unusually common for me. |
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Post by omegaraptor on Jul 17, 2019 16:47:27 GMT -5
www.ucsusa.org/press/2019/northwest-region-areas-endure-seven-weeks-or-more-year-when-feels-temperature-exceeds-90www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/global-warming-impacts/extreme-heat-interactive-toolLMAO... the alarmists seem to think that Portland is going to become Redding by 2070. Plugging Portland into the interactive tool, it thinks we average four days 90ºF or higher a year (incorrect, we average 13 using 71-00 normals). This supposedly increases to 53 by the 2070-99 period, something even Kennewick cannot claim presently. Using NWS data, Kennewick averages 47 90ºF or higher days per year. This tool also claims that BELLINGHAM will average 3 100ºF+ days and 1 105ºF+ day by late century. Keep in mind that their RECORD high is 96.  Bellingham hitting 105ºF is like Seattle hitting 112ºF, Portland hitting 116ºF, or Kennewick hitting 124ºF. This recent spout of hot summers is but a mere anomaly - as soon as the warmth-favoring pattern in the West flips, which is not only inevitable but also bound to be sooner rather than later, the most likely outcome is that another cool period akin to 2007-2012 will rear its head yet again.
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Post by Speagles84 on Jul 17, 2019 17:44:26 GMT -5
Highest temperature for June 1915 for Alaska stations (NWS data). 1931 had a 90 for Anchorage too. The merrill field station, not the current station. Unless they discarded this station as inaccurate, 100 should be the record high for Anchorage (and tied for Alaska). This report is buried in the menus for xmacis.rcc-acis.org/Merill Field existed before Ted Stevens International was built. Although there's room for another debate on the accuracy of old temperature readings, the 90F is clearly a record for Ted Stevens. I believe in climate change This is just another post for the exaggerator media to blow up without being clear about its sources which I believe contributes to DISbelief in climate change. Ted Stevens is on the damn Cook Inlet! Of course its going to be more moderate than inland a bit. Ugh. They should be looking at Bethel, Alaska! They've had the same weather station forever. And they hit a record. SMDH |
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