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Post by Babu on Jul 26, 2019 11:02:54 GMT -5
Wiki page updated with some of the new records:
Belgium got 41.8'C though
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Post by Ariete on Jul 26, 2019 11:33:44 GMT -5
Wow 38 °C in Uppsala County. Is that legit?!
Contested decades ago and is not within WMO standards, as the temp was rounded up or down, however you want to look at it. Likely up.
The Målilla reading, however, has been confirmed as 100% legit.
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Post by Babu on Jul 26, 2019 11:43:33 GMT -5
Wow 38 °C in Uppsala County. Is that legit?!
Contested decades ago and is not within WMO standards, as the temp was rounded up or down, however you want to look at it. Likely up.
The Målilla reading, however, has been confirmed as 100% legit.
I believe the station itself was WMO standard, but the temp was indeed rounded. Their description of the rounding is ambiguous because they say "rounded upon half a degree", so it could either mean the true value was 37.5-38.4°C or 37.75-38.24°C. IIRC, other stations that have had rounded numbers have had the numbers rounded to the nearest half degree (Like Umeå's 33.5'C June reading back in the 1800's). Either way, Uppsala's city station got 37.4'C that day.
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Post by nei on Jul 26, 2019 11:48:36 GMT -5
Heat burst in England from remnant atmospheric warmth
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Post by Ariete on Jul 26, 2019 13:29:37 GMT -5
I believe the station itself was WMO standard, but the temp was indeed rounded. Their description of the rounding is ambiguous because they say "rounded upon half a degree", so it could either mean the true value was 37.5-38.4°C or 37.75-38.24°C. IIRC, other stations that have had rounded numbers have had the numbers rounded to the nearest half degree (Like Umeå's 33.5'C June reading back in the 1800's). Either way, Uppsala's city station got 37.4'C that day.
I could accept a rounding in the 18th century, but not in 1933. That was unacceptable.
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Post by Ariete on Jul 26, 2019 14:12:48 GMT -5
Ylitornio Meltosjärvi at the Arctic circle has recorded their new July record with at least 32.5C. Records go back to 1966. Their heat record is 32.8C and might well be broken Edit: there it is. 32.9C the newest reading.
33.3C is the final reading.
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Post by Babu on Jul 26, 2019 14:21:00 GMT -5
Markusvinsa in Arctic Sweden recorded 34.8'C today. Etne in southwestern Norway also recorded 34.8'C, 0.2'C off the national all time July record. Gothenburg recorded 34.1'C today which tangents their previous record that I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, was from last year.
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Post by rozenn on Jul 26, 2019 15:41:01 GMT -5
Best not to derail the thread, matey, but Paris Montsouris is largely a non-UHI station; unlike Sydney, Paris' heat records are 100% real and verified. Sydney Observatory Hill is an entirely different story to Paris Montsouris. Therefore: this is the hottest day in North-Western European history, which makes it all the more impressive. Cheers AA. I just wondered about the continuity of the site. Never really look beyond Aus when it comes to temperature recording site history. A very impressive temperature for that neck of the woods. Be nice to have records thousands of years old to gauge the significance or not of these kind of extreme events The Paris-Montsouris WS has opened in 1873. Would be nice to smash the -23.9°C record in the same fashion. That heat burst in England is quite impressive! Similar temp surge, but much smaller in parts of Paris yesterday evening. For exemple in St Cloud the temp/RH went from 40.0°C/23% at 7:30 pm to 42.9°C/9% (!) At 7:53 pm. Epic temp for being this late!
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Post by Hiromant on Jul 26, 2019 15:44:03 GMT -5
Looks like Svalbard is the only true refuge from heat in Europe, even the continental Arctic is getting scorched. We'll get our share tomorrow and the day after with 29-30°C highs.
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Post by nei on Jul 26, 2019 21:47:40 GMT -5
some model charts I downloaded. All ECMWF model output. First few from the heat wave. Picked a model initialization from just before the model output so it's less of a forecast than current conditions. First, 500 hPa. Giant ridge, "omega block" over central Europe 850 hPa; hottest 850 hPa was not quite in the center of the heat; 27°C in the Swiss Alps (higher elevations might have made it easier to get high 850 hPa temperatures). France had 25°C 850 hPa temperatures tomorrow the center of the ridge will move north to subarctic Scandinavia; Nordics are getting very hot weather relative to normal right now ======================== compare with the heatwave in the Northeast US last weekend 21-22°C 850 hPa temperatures near NYC and DC; dunno why it's so hot over Michigan unlike Europe; no unusual ridge pattern just more amplified than usual
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Post by nei on Jul 27, 2019 14:48:27 GMT -5
from an old temperature distribution plot I made comparing Paris with Portland, Oregon and Amherst, Massachusetts in July and August. Old data for Paris; Paris' new record beat Portlands' (107°F). dotted line is average daily max; dashed line average annual max (for just July and August).
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Post by Dean York (Old) on Jul 29, 2019 11:04:49 GMT -5
The temperature of 38.7C recorded in Cambridge on Thursday, has now just been confirmed, so is officially the highest temperature ever recorded in the UK!
Interesting that it's relatively far north too, being basically East Midlands. I would never have guessed that the record would end up away from the South East.
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Post by nei on Jul 29, 2019 15:39:01 GMT -5
where was the hottest temperature of the heatwave? Was it actually in Paris?
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Post by nei on Jul 29, 2019 15:47:51 GMT -5
only 2°C colder than Mt. Washington's record, in an oceanic climate 16° further north
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Post by flamingGalah on Jul 29, 2019 16:13:27 GMT -5
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Post by Hiromant on Jul 30, 2019 4:34:55 GMT -5
The German record has some controversy around it because the weather station has some siting issues.
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Post by Babu on Jul 30, 2019 8:48:28 GMT -5
The German record has some controversy around it because the weather station has some siting issues. It baffles me how they didn't include a single picture of the actual weatherstation
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Post by Babu on Jul 30, 2019 9:25:11 GMT -5
Wow 38 °C in Uppsala County. Is that legit?!
Contested decades ago and is not within WMO standards, as the temp was rounded up or down, however you want to look at it. Likely up.
The Målilla reading, however, has been confirmed as 100% legit.
I emailed SMHI about the Ultuna station. There aren't images of it, but it was regarded as having better quality than most other stations at the time. They also confirmed that the 38.0'C reading meant that the actual temp was between 37.8'C and 38.2'C. Thus, with "100%" certainty, it recorded 100'F.
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Post by trolik on Jul 30, 2019 18:42:48 GMT -5
The temperature of 38.7C recorded in Cambridge on Thursday, has now just been confirmed, so is officially the highest temperature ever recorded in the UK! Interesting that it's relatively far north too, being basically East Midlands. I would never have guessed that the record would end up away from the South East. I wouldn't call it basically the East Midlands, the poor folk in Cambridge would throw a fit lol. Also, Cambridge normally gets similar temps to the SE during heatwaves because its south and east enough to keep the temps up. Although, I saw some meteorologists saying that it could've been 40C somewhere in the actual SE if it wasnt for the rain coming through right in the afternoon when the temps were about to reach their peak.
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Post by Dean York (Old) on Jul 31, 2019 2:01:51 GMT -5
The temperature of 38.7C recorded in Cambridge on Thursday, has now just been confirmed, so is officially the highest temperature ever recorded in the UK! Interesting that it's relatively far north too, being basically East Midlands. I would never have guessed that the record would end up away from the South East. I wouldn't call it basically the East Midlands, the poor folk in Cambridge would throw a fit lol. Also, Cambridge normally gets similar temps to the SE during heatwaves because its south and east enough to keep the temps up. Although, I saw some meteorologists saying that it could've been 40C somewhere in the actual SE if it wasnt for the rain coming through right in the afternoon when the temps were about to reach their peak. I meant more in terms of how far north Cambridge is. I know it's not in the Midlands. Yeah no doubt 40C was on the cards. We could've had 37-38C here if it wasn't for the cloud building up at around 3pm, so that was a shame. Still, nice to beat our local record as I was only 3 when the old record was set in 1990.
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