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Post by knot on Jul 9, 2020 19:51:03 GMT -5
I thought of a clever thread idea—which of these conditions are more common in your climate? Generally, climates with more snow than frost tend to get the coldest temperatures with low-pressure frontal systems, and are perched on an exposed high point such as a hill or slope; whereas climates with more frost than snow tend to occur in flatter geography, especially in a more sheltered location which further supports radiative cooling.
Also, by snow, I refer only to falling snow and/or sleet. Not how long you can retain a snowpack.
My Ratio: Snow > Frost
Snow/sleet is much more common than frost here, and by a long shot. The only time it gets below freezing here, is with a South-Westerly frontal system; especially if it dumps a notable amount of snow, and thus, cold air pooling results. Dry cold is extremely rare here.
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Post by AJ1013 on Jul 9, 2020 19:52:38 GMT -5
Frost>Snow in both Miami and Tucson (though in Miami both are very rare).
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Post by Crunch41 on Jul 9, 2020 21:16:18 GMT -5
Frost >> Snow. Temperatures below freezing are the norm in winter, but it does not snow every day. Every place with several months of below-freezing lows will be the same unless it's extremely wet like parts of Japan.
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Post by Steelernation on Jul 9, 2020 22:06:02 GMT -5
Frost is much more common.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Jul 10, 2020 1:56:23 GMT -5
I would say snow > frost here, although some freezing days can occur before the snow actually falls. But that isn't always the case.
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Post by Speagles84 on Jul 10, 2020 5:46:35 GMT -5
I get 50 days of snow per year and average frost period is October 4th to May 4th so frost is much more common.
I'd assume every cold climate averages more frosts due to most winter (and a lot of spring and fall mornings) falling below freezing
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Post by Speagles84 on Jul 10, 2020 5:49:01 GMT -5
Frost >> Snow. Temperatures below freezing are the norm in winter, but it does not snow every day. Every place with several months of below-freezing lows will be the same unless it's extremely wet like parts of Japan. Didn't see your post but I agree. Didn't think about super wet Japan climated |
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Post by jgtheone on Jul 10, 2020 5:56:39 GMT -5
Frost > snow. I probably get one or two frosts a year compared to no snow lol.
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Post by Speagles84 on Jul 10, 2020 6:14:08 GMT -5
Frost > snow. I probably get one or two frosts a year compared to no snow lol. I think you should have put mild winters then lol. If me or crunch get more frosts in our 3 summer months than you, you have a mild winter jaja |
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Post by knot on Jul 10, 2020 6:32:48 GMT -5
I think you should have put mild winters then lol. If me or crunch get more frosts in our 3 summer months than you, you have a mild winter jaja My N/A (mild winters) poll option is rather geared towards climates with an absolute lack of cold—i.e. neither frost nor snow in an average year. So it's very few members on here; namely ChesterNZ (Bangkok), Noodleman (Perth), and AJ (when he's in Miami). JG's climate still gets some frost in an average year. |
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Post by Speagles84 on Jul 10, 2020 6:44:35 GMT -5
I think you should have put mild winters then lol. If me or crunch get more frosts in our 3 summer months than you, you have a mild winter jaja My N/A (mild winters) poll option is rather geared towards climates with an absolute lack of cold—i.e. neither frost nor snow in an average year. So it's very few members on here; namely ChesterNZ (Bangkok), Noodleman (Perth), and AJ (when he's in Miami). JG's climate still gets some frost in an average year. I was kind of joking around with him. But an average of 1 frost a year probably means quite a few years don't see frost at all. I can't even imagine a year without dropping to freezing |
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Post by rozenn on Jul 10, 2020 17:03:14 GMT -5
It's a ratio of around 2.6 here (16 snow days for 42 frosts).
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Post by srfoskey on Jul 10, 2020 17:28:01 GMT -5
Ground frost happens maybe a few dozen times a year here, while it gets below freezing about 70 times a year on average. Snow happens a few times a year. So frost >> snow
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 17:37:01 GMT -5
London has 33 frosts per year and 4 snow falling days on average.
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Post by Morningrise on Jul 11, 2020 8:54:44 GMT -5
Frost, by far. Saskatoon doesn't get that much snow but we are consistently quite cold, especially at night, for much of the year. We average 55 days of snowfall vs about 200 sub-freezing nights a year.
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Post by Crunch41 on Jul 17, 2020 10:20:18 GMT -5
Frost > snow. I probably get one or two frosts a year compared to no snow lol. I think you should have put mild winters then lol. If me or crunch get more frosts in our 3 summer months than you, you have a mild winter jaja I don't get summer frost. Milwaukee's record low is 33 but the mean minimum is 45. Many suburban or rural places have record lows below freezing (for example Waukesha), but nowhere near me gets frost in an average summer. Speagles do you get frost in summer? You have cooler summers, but I didn't think it was cool enough for frost. |
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Post by Speagles84 on Jul 17, 2020 12:36:45 GMT -5
I think you should have put mild winters then lol. If me or crunch get more frosts in our 3 summer months than you, you have a mild winter jaja I don't get summer frost. Milwaukee's record low is 33 but the mean minimum is 45. Many suburban or rural places have record lows below freezing (for example Waukesha), but nowhere near me gets frost in an average summer. Speagles do you get frost in summer? You have cooler summers, but I didn't think it was cool enough for frost. Its rare, but I did get frost in summers 2019 and 2020 so far yes. 2019 I dropped to 36F on June 4th with light ground frost. This year I dropped to 35F June 1st with more significant ground frost this year.
It was more a joke than anything. Maybe nei in Western Mass has a higher chance of June frost than you. Probably Morningrise gets the most summer frost of anyone on here, followed by Babu . Nei, Ariete, and I are probably in the next tier below them. |
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Post by knot on Jul 17, 2020 16:20:28 GMT -5
It was more a joke than anything. Maybe nei in Western Mass has a higher chance of June frost than you. Probably Morningrise gets the most summer frost of anyone on here, followed by Babu . Nei, Ariete , and I are probably in the next tier below them. Nope, that would be Palider (Esquel, Argentina). |
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Post by firebird1988 on Jul 17, 2020 18:04:04 GMT -5
We average a handful of frosts a year (though only freeze once every 4 years on average), but only have like 3 days of measurable snow in our 125 years of records (basically never snows here, last time was 22 years ago and was just flurries)
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Post by Ariete on Jul 18, 2020 3:18:43 GMT -5
Its rare, but I did get frost in summers 2019 and 2020 so far yes. 2019 I dropped to 36F on June 4th with light ground frost. This year I dropped to 35F June 1st with more significant ground frost this year.
It was more a joke than anything. Maybe nei in Western Mass has a higher chance of June frost than you. Probably Morningrise gets the most summer frost of anyone on here, followed by Babu . Nei, Ariete , and I are probably in the next tier below them.
I don't get summer frost. The only month it would be possible is June, and when nights are 5-6 hours long, frost don't have time to form before the sun rises again. The sole exception was June 2009, which saw a freeze, and that was a freak event.
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