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Post by ral31 on May 10, 2021 21:08:56 GMT -5
Strong storms last night. One round came around 9 PM then a second round woke me up 4-5 AM with quite a bit of lightning. Some close range strikes. Ended up with just under 3 inches of rain.
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Post by Steelernation on May 10, 2021 23:11:10 GMT -5
The snow exceeded expectations! It rained steadily all morning before changing over to wet snow in the afternoon with heavy snow at times.
As of 7 PM, 1.9” (5 cm) had fallen and the whole ground is covered. The flowering trees are beautiful with snow on them.
Ended up with 1.45” (37 mm) of total precipitation between the rain and very wet snow. The month is now nearly at its average rainfall with 2/3 left to go. Drought conditions in the northern front range were already eliminated with last week’s rain event so this is just a bonus.
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Post by rozenn on May 10, 2021 23:49:34 GMT -5
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Post by Babu on May 11, 2021 1:27:55 GMT -5
 Almost 28C in parts of SE Sweden today. Meanwhile Oslo had a 13.3'C high |
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Post by Ariete on May 11, 2021 1:28:59 GMT -5
Highest temp today seems to have been in Lohja with 19.8C at 19:00. Very rare to see the daily high so late in the evening during the high sun season.
Helsinki Lighthouse recorded a temp of 20.6C @ 20:40. Doesn't seem to be any dodgy about that reading. That would be the first 20C temp in Finland then this spring.
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Post by Babu on May 11, 2021 1:59:31 GMT -5
WO has a 5 UVI forecast for us today. It's interesting. "Stupid people" think you burn easier when it's warm outside, whereas "smart people" know that temperature is irrelevant; it's only the UV radiation which has nothing to do with temperature. But the ozone gets thinner, on average, the closer you get to the equator, and thicker the closer you get to the north pole. This coincidentally means that during heatwaves, when the airmasses are coming from the south, the ozone tends to become a lot thinner, making it, funnily enough, a lot easier to burn during heatwaves than during cool weather, on average.
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Post by Doña Jimena on May 11, 2021 2:39:42 GMT -5
WO has a 5 UVI forecast for us today. It's interesting. "Stupid people" think you burn easier when it's warm outside, whereas "smart people" know that temperature is irrelevant; it's only the UV radiation which has nothing to do with temperature. But the ozone gets thinner, on average, the closer you get to the equator, and thicker the closer you get to the north pole. This coincidentally means that during heatwaves, when the airmasses are coming from the south, the ozone tends to become a lot thinner, making it, funnily enough, a lot easier to burn during heatwaves than during cool weather, on average. UV index has been mentioned here as well. Which makes me smile, UV 5 or 6 is nothing. This may burn subarctic people only. The same people who call 20C heat.  |
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Post by Babu on May 11, 2021 2:49:30 GMT -5
WO has a 5 UVI forecast for us today. It's interesting. "Stupid people" think you burn easier when it's warm outside, whereas "smart people" know that temperature is irrelevant; it's only the UV radiation which has nothing to do with temperature. But the ozone gets thinner, on average, the closer you get to the equator, and thicker the closer you get to the north pole. This coincidentally means that during heatwaves, when the airmasses are coming from the south, the ozone tends to become a lot thinner, making it, funnily enough, a lot easier to burn during heatwaves than during cool weather, on average. UV index has been mentioned here as well. Which makes me smile, UV 5 or 6 is nothing. This may burn subarctic people only. The same people who call 20C heat. Uh ok dude, I doubt I burn easier than you. You can be pretty tanned and still burn at a 5 UVI if you spend enough time in the sun. |
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Post by knot on May 11, 2021 2:52:26 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but if you think UV 5–6 feels any stronger than a lightbulb, you need to see a doctor ASAP.
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Post by Babu on May 11, 2021 2:53:44 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but if you think UV 5–6 feels any stronger than a lightbulb, you need to see a doctor ASAP. I'm sorry, but if you think UV 5-6 feels you need to see a doctor ASAP |
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Post by Babu on May 11, 2021 2:54:35 GMT -5
I bet AW looks completely red all the time and just assumes it's his natural skin tone when he's just constantly burnt
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Post by knot on May 11, 2021 2:56:14 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but if you think UV 5-6 feels you need to see a doctor ASAP If you've got nothing of substance to say…then I think it's best you rather not say anything at all. |
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Post by Babu on May 11, 2021 3:04:35 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but if you think UV 5-6 feels you need to see a doctor ASAP If you've got nothing of substance to say…then I think it's best you rather not say anything at all. Ironic |
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Post by Babu on May 11, 2021 3:09:24 GMT -5
UVB radiation in direct sunlight varies between 2-4 W/m². Compare that to the total irradiance level that is about 1000 W/m² and I hope you should be able to understand why UV index cannot be felt in the slightest.
UV radiation doesn't penetrate as far into the skin, which means it's more heavily concentrated onto the outermost layer of the skin. However, this is only by a factor of about 10x compared to average sunlight, meaning the UVB portion, when weighted according to absorption in the outermost layer of the skin, would be equivalent to about 20-40 W/m² compared to the total irradiance of 1000 W/m², i.e. still very negligible.
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Post by knot on May 11, 2021 3:21:10 GMT -5
UVB radiation in direct sunlight varies between 2-4 W/m². Compare that to the total irradiance level that is about 1000 W/m² and I hope you should be able to understand why UV index cannot be felt in the slightest. Oh, is that why I get a pounding headache in a matter of minutes from staying in the summer sun without a hat, but in the winter I don't feel a thing? (Mind you it's not temperature—summers are mild as fuck here). I'm pretty sure the differences in UV index can be felt…and very easily at that. |
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Post by Doña Jimena on May 11, 2021 3:21:26 GMT -5
UV index has been mentioned here as well. Which makes me smile, UV 5 or 6 is nothing. This may burn subarctic people only. The same people who call 20C heat. Uh ok dude, I doubt I burn easier than you. You can be pretty tanned and still burn at a 5 UVI if you spend enough time in the sun. I think I do have a bit darker skin tone than you, not very much, but I am darker. Still, I think the vast majority of people do not need any skin protection at UVI 5. Only albinos, people with a very light skin, need it. |
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Post by Babu on May 11, 2021 3:23:52 GMT -5
UVB radiation in direct sunlight varies between 2-4 W/m². Compare that to the total irradiance level that is about 1000 W/m² and I hope you should be able to understand why UV index cannot be felt in the slightest. Oh, is that why I get a pounding headache in a matter of minutes from staying in the summer sun without a hat, but in the winter I don't feel a thing? (Mind you it's not temperature—summers are mild as fuck here). I'm pretty sure the differences in UV index can be felt…and very easily at that. I've never heard of UV radiation causing pounding headaches. It started out as a joke but maybe you should visit a doctor. |
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Post by Babu on May 11, 2021 3:30:01 GMT -5
Uh ok dude, I doubt I burn easier than you. You can be pretty tanned and still burn at a 5 UVI if you spend enough time in the sun. I think I do have a bit darker skin tone than you, not very much, but I am darker. Still, I think the vast majority of people do not need any skin protection at UVI 5. Only albinos, people with a very light skin, need it. Idk, males tend to have more pigmentation on average. I haven't really had a single female friend or partner that's tanned easier than me, and usually there's a rather significant difference. My best friend burnt to the point of his face flaking really badly in August 2019 at 68'N when the maximum sun angle was only about 40°, similar to the beginning of September in Riga. He's pretty dark by nordic standards.  I don't really know anyone with darker skin than him, only have white friends. But I've seen lots of very brown-skinned people with hefty sunburns in Umeå (whether the dark skin is from a tan or from a naturally dark skin tone doesn't really matter), and I know my ex's boyfriend who's an afghan has burnt pretty badly in April here. |
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Post by Ariete on May 11, 2021 4:45:28 GMT -5
I think I do have a bit darker skin tone than you, not very much, but I am darker. Still, I think the vast majority of people do not need any skin protection at UVI 5. Only albinos, people with a very light skin, need it.
The scientific community doesn't agree with you if you're a White person, which I think I do you are.
Just because you might not burn easily at UV 5, it doesn't mean a portion of Europeans wouldn't.
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Post by Babu on May 11, 2021 4:55:16 GMT -5
I think I do have a bit darker skin tone than you, not very much, but I am darker. Still, I think the vast majority of people do not need any skin protection at UVI 5. Only albinos, people with a very light skin, need it.
The scientific community doesn't agree with you if you're a White person, which I think I do you are.
Just because you might not burn easily at UV 5, it doesn't mean a portion of Europeans wouldn't.
More importantly, imo, just because she doesn't burn when wearing sunscreen, or when wearing spf make-up, or when going to the beach at 4pm, or when she's only outside for a few hours, moving around letting the sun hit different parts of her body instead of just one spot, or just because it doesn't hurt or look super lobster red, doesn't mean she can't burn at 5 UVI. It's very different to sit with your face facing directly towards the sun for hours, and walking around, sitting in the shade etc. And you don't have to look obviously lobster red, or hurt, just because you've burnt. Also, the darker your skin the harder it is to visibly tell that you've burnt. People with darker skin, and people with less shallow blood vessels, won't have as clearly visible a red tint when they do burn. I remember my friend never looked like he was sunburnt, maybe a sliiiiiiiight purplish tone on the cheeks just below the eyes, but really you'd never look at him and say he looked burnt. Then a few days later his skin looked like this:  This whole pride thing where you delude yourself that somehow you're special and can't burn at X sun angles, and ridiculing those that do, despite not even having darker skin, is so silly. This instagram post was uploaded three days ago in Abisko at 68°N where the maximum sun angle was 39°. How would it be even remotely possible to look like that unless the UV radiation is more than strong enough for a normal european to burn?  This was uploaded on the 9th of April at the same plaxe. Back then the sun angle was only 29°! These people light skinned, sure, but they don't look paler than any other normal European, yet they clearly managed to burn a little despite the sun angle not even being 30°. ![]()  |
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