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Post by CRISPR on Jan 17, 2024 16:58:58 GMT -5
I like the concept behind Russia's Pleistocene Park, a nature reserve attempting to recreate the steppe-tundra ecosystem that existed during the Last Glacial Maximum  |
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Post by massiveshibe on Jan 21, 2024 4:00:33 GMT -5
I like the concept behind Russia's Pleistocene Park, a nature reserve attempting to recreate the steppe-tundra ecosystem that existed during the Last Glacial Maximum I wish mammoths and sabertooth tigers weren’t extinct. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Apr 25, 2024 20:32:28 GMT -5
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Post by tompas on May 5, 2024 9:41:06 GMT -5
Today I almost stepped on a big ass snake, it was like 20 cm away from my foot.
Apparently, it's one of the largest snake species in Europe, growing up to 2 meters. Never seen a snake so big in the wild.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Jul 11, 2024 20:07:13 GMT -5
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Aug 25, 2024 15:56:21 GMT -5
Injured blue jay fledgling I found today. Might have to take it to a vet. But it's been eating at least and it's in a safe location.  |
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Post by greysrigging on Aug 25, 2024 23:44:24 GMT -5
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Post by grega94 on Aug 26, 2024 0:04:42 GMT -5
I’ve been trying to read up on Asian wapiti aka elk. (Elk in Europe are called moose in N.A, so to make things less confusing the American elk living in Eurasia are called wapiti. Fun fact both moose and wapiti are Native American names), and i couldn’t find a lot of information on them, so I tried to see if the Russian wiki articles have more information, and to my surprise, not only is there less information, but they consider both the Asian and American variants to be a subspecies of the European red dear! Now I guess that isn’t too surprising since they used to be considered the same species, but they’ve been considered separate since 1998 when DNA tests proved it! Now the reason why the elk/wapiti and red deer were considered the same species is because they can produce fertile hybrids, however Bactrian and dromedary camels can produce fertile offspring and yet nobody considers them to be the same species. Elk/wapiti and red deer are clearly different species, for one the elk/deer is about twice as large! And another they just look very different! Elk/Wapiti English en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ElkThe elk (pl.: elk or elks; Cervus canadensis), or wapiti, is the second largest species within the deer family, Cervidae, and one of the largest terrestrial mammals in its native range of North America and Central and East Asia. Russian ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8Ва́пити (лат. Cervus elaphus subspp., англ. Wapiti, American Elk) — общее название подвидов благородного оленя, обитающих в Северной Америке. Translation Vapiti (lat. Cervus elaphus subspp. Wapiti, American Elk) is the common name for subspecies of noble deer living in North America. ———————————————————— Red deer en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_deerThe red deer (Cervus elaphus) is one of the largest deer species. Russian ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8CБлагоро́дный оле́нь[1] или настоя́щий оле́нь[2][3] (лат. Cervus elaphus), — парнокопытное млекопитающее из семейства оленевых. Translation Noble deer[1]or true deer[2][3](lat. Cervus elaphus) is a hoofed mammal from the deer family. ————————————- Manchurian Wapiti English en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchurian_wapitiThe Manchurian wapiti (Cervus canadensis xanthopygus) is a subspecies of the wapiti native to East Asia. Russian ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B7%D1%8E%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8CИзю́брь, или изюбр (Cervus elaphus xanthopygus), — восточноазиатский настоящий олень. Подвид благородного оленя. Translation Izýubr‘, or izyubr (Cervus elaphus xanthopygus), is an East Asian true deer. A subspecies of nobel deer. ———————————————————————————- Altai wapiti English en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altai_wapitiThe Altai wapiti, sometimes called the Altai elk, is a subspecies of Cervus canadensis found in the forest hills of southern Siberia, northwestern Mongolia, and northern Xinjiang province of China. Russian ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BBАлта́йский мара́л[источник не указан 149 дней], или марал[2] (Cervus elaphus sibiricus) — крупный благородный олень. Translation Altai Maral[source not specified 149 days], or maral[2](Cervus elaphus sibiricus) is a large noble deer. |
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Post by greysrigging on Aug 26, 2024 2:05:55 GMT -5
I’ve been trying to read up on Asian wapiti aka elk. (Elk in Europe are called moose in N.A, so to make things less confusing the American elk living in Eurasia are called wapiti. Fun fact both moose and wapiti are Native American names), and i couldn’t find a lot of information on them, so I tried to see if the Russian wiki articles have more information, and to my surprise, not only is there less information, but they consider both the Asian and American variants to be a subspecies of the European red dear! Now I guess that isn’t too surprising since they used to be considered the same species, but they’ve been considered separate since 1998 when DNA tests proved it! Now the reason why the elk/wapiti and red deer were considered the same species is because they can produce fertile hybrids, however Bactrian and dromedary camels can produce fertile offspring and yet nobody considers them to be the same species. Elk/wapiti and red deer are clearly different species, for one the elk/deer is about twice as large! And another they just look very different! Elk/Wapiti English en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ElkThe elk (pl.: elk or elks; Cervus canadensis), or wapiti, is the second largest species within the deer family, Cervidae, and one of the largest terrestrial mammals in its native range of North America and Central and East Asia. Russian ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8Ва́пити (лат. Cervus elaphus subspp., англ. Wapiti, American Elk) — общее название подвидов благородного оленя, обитающих в Северной Америке. Translation Vapiti (lat. Cervus elaphus subspp. Wapiti, American Elk) is the common name for subspecies of noble deer living in North America. ———————————————————— Red deer en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_deerThe red deer (Cervus elaphus) is one of the largest deer species. Russian ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8CБлагоро́дный оле́нь[1] или настоя́щий оле́нь[2][3] (лат. Cervus elaphus), — парнокопытное млекопитающее из семейства оленевых. Translation Noble deer[1]or true deer[2][3](lat. Cervus elaphus) is a hoofed mammal from the deer family. ————————————- Manchurian Wapiti English en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchurian_wapitiThe Manchurian wapiti (Cervus canadensis xanthopygus) is a subspecies of the wapiti native to East Asia. Russian ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B7%D1%8E%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8CИзю́брь, или изюбр (Cervus elaphus xanthopygus), — восточноазиатский настоящий олень. Подвид благородного оленя. Translation Izýubr‘, or izyubr (Cervus elaphus xanthopygus), is an East Asian true deer. A subspecies of nobel deer. ———————————————————————————- Altai wapiti English en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altai_wapitiThe Altai wapiti, sometimes called the Altai elk, is a subspecies of Cervus canadensis found in the forest hills of southern Siberia, northwestern Mongolia, and northern Xinjiang province of China. Russian ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BBАлта́йский мара́л[источник не указан 149 дней], или марал[2] (Cervus elaphus sibiricus) — крупный благородный олень. Translation Altai Maral[source not specified 149 days], or maral[2](Cervus elaphus sibiricus) is a large noble deer. We have a feral pest population of Wapiti in the eastern states of Australia. pestsmart.org.au/toolkit-resource/identifying-red-wapiti-or-elk-cervus-elaphus/ |
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Post by grega94 on Aug 26, 2024 2:39:19 GMT -5
I’ve been trying to read up on Asian wapiti aka elk. (Elk in Europe are called moose in N.A, so to make things less confusing the American elk living in Eurasia are called wapiti. Fun fact both moose and wapiti are Native American names), and i couldn’t find a lot of information on them, so I tried to see if the Russian wiki articles have more information, and to my surprise, not only is there less information, but they consider both the Asian and American variants to be a subspecies of the European red dear! Now I guess that isn’t too surprising since they used to be considered the same species, but they’ve been considered separate since 1998 when DNA tests proved it! Now the reason why the elk/wapiti and red deer were considered the same species is because they can produce fertile hybrids, however Bactrian and dromedary camels can produce fertile offspring and yet nobody considers them to be the same species. Elk/wapiti and red deer are clearly different species, for one the elk/deer is about twice as large! And another they just look very different! We have a feral pest population of Wapiti in the eastern states of Australia. pestsmart.org.au/toolkit-resource/identifying-red-wapiti-or-elk-cervus-elaphus/Even in the article you mentioned it says they are the same species! “ Identifying red, wapiti or elk deer (Cervus elaphus)” Do Australians consider them to be the same species still? Wapiti’s scientific name is Cervus canadensis. Cervus elaphus Is the red deer. How are Australians supposed to effectively control their population if they are treating them as the same species? Although I suppose they may have hybridized by now in Australia? Here is a video of the two side by side in New Zealand, they are clearly very different! |
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Post by Marcelo on Aug 27, 2024 8:55:58 GMT -5
Wapitis (Cervus canadensis) and red deer (Cervus elaphus) are nowadays considered different species in most scientific works. They aren’t even closest to each other. Ability to produce fertile descents is no longer an argument for species differentiation, but phylogenetics proved to be a much more convoluted thing.
Brown bears and white bears can also produce fertile offspring, and the same even goes for sympatric species such as the gray wolf and the coyote (the whole Genus Canis is a mess in this regard). They’ve always been considered different species because both morphological (genetic) and ecological difference were quite evident.
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Post by greysrigging on Aug 27, 2024 19:47:38 GMT -5
grega94"Even in the article you mentioned it says they are the same species! “ Identifying red, wapiti or elk deer (Cervus elaphus)” Do Australians consider them to be the same species still? Wapiti’s scientific name is Cervus canadensis. Cervus elaphus Is the red deer. How are Australians supposed to effectively control their population if they are treating them as the same species? Although I suppose they may have hybridized by now in Australia?" All deer species in AU are regarded as feral pest species... some states regulate the hunting of them, but this is more to do with firearms restrictions than a 'management' of the hunting resource.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Sept 9, 2024 9:39:21 GMT -5
Injured blue jay fledgling I found today. Might have to take it to a vet. But it's been eating at least and it's in a safe location. Well, I took it to a rehab place who took care of it. It wasn't getting better so they took it to a vet. Apparently an x-ray showed it had a fractured skull, which is a death sentence pretty much. So they euthanized it.  |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Nov 18, 2024 15:21:33 GMT -5
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