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Post by ๐๐ฟMรถrรถn๐๐ฟ on Apr 14, 2021 23:14:09 GMT -5
Malvinas might not seem so important geopolitically currently, but in the far future (100+ years from now) with a warming Antarctica will come a push to settle and colonise the new land. Wrong. In just 30 years we will look more akin to this instead:  'Snowball earth' never happened!!! And it especially hasn't happened more than once! The planet is on a runaway ticket to being Venus!!1! |
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Post by greysrigging on Apr 14, 2021 23:56:22 GMT -5
Wrong. In just 30 years we will look more akin to this instead: 'Snowball earth' never happened!!! And it especially hasn't happened more than once! The planet is on a runaway ticket to being Venus!!1! Yes it has... haven't you watched 'Snowpiercer' ?  |
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Post by ๐๐ฟMรถrรถn๐๐ฟ on Apr 15, 2021 0:10:47 GMT -5
'Snowball earth' never happened!!! And it especially hasn't happened more than once! The planet is on a runaway ticket to being Venus!!1! Yes it has... haven't you watched 'Snowpiercer' ? I have not watched that. Please help me, for I am an uneducated swine who knows naught of the planet's past. (just kidding, I am a very sarcastic bastard...). |
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Post by greysrigging on Apr 15, 2021 2:08:31 GMT -5
Yes it has... haven't you watched 'Snowpiercer' ? I have not watched that. Please help me, for I am an uneducated swine who knows naught of the planet's past. (just kidding, I am a very sarcastic bastard...). Movie was good, and now a 2 season TV series...  |
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Post by Beercules on Apr 15, 2021 3:31:56 GMT -5
Here in SE Australia (excluding Shitney/Penroids and assorted areas of NSW) we have already started our slippery slope to that picture...
As for the poll, Orkney. Better crummers than the Fucklands.
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Post by Strewthless on Apr 15, 2021 5:40:09 GMT -5
Malvinas might not seem so important geopolitically currently, but in the far future (100+ years from now) with a warming Antarctica will come a push to settle and colonise the new land. It is in the best interests for Britain to maintain a presence there, I get it. I was kind of just joking with the "Malvinas Argentinas" thing, although the Spanish (thus Argentine) claim was established first and thus is more legitimate. I'd prefer them belong to Argentina but if the 2 countries can collaborate on Antarctic colonisation one day in order to keep China and Russia out of the Antarctic, then I'm for them remaining British. Ideally they would belong to Argentina and Argentina would allow Britain to maintain an RAF base there for free. That arrangement would benefit both Argentina and the UK. I'm gonna call them Malvinas though, because I'm a native Spanish speaker. Just seems to me that the islands are nothing more than a useful political tool for Argentina. When governments are struggling, they'll often try to stir up nationalism to gain support. The whole Argentine war strategy was based on the gamble thar Britain wouldn't see them as worth fighting for. Which was obviously a big misreading of the situation. A credible government can't be seen to have a passive attitude towards defending its citizens and allies. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 6:28:18 GMT -5
Some old met bloke on netweather lived in the Falklands and said it felt considerably warmer in summer than a place in Wales where he lived - interesting. He said the sun was very strong compared to in the UK. Also, we are seeing outdated averages for the Falklands here. But, I would choose Orkney for the milder winters. @logan5 used to live in the Falklands?
Falklands is the better climate of these two British islands. Mt Pleasant over the past 20 years has average highs of 17c in January, and it's far drier and sunnier than Orkney.
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Post by aabc123 on Apr 15, 2021 7:28:45 GMT -5
I prefer the Falkland Islands because they are sunnier, drier and probably also warmer today because, as you can see the climate boxes are from different periods.
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Post by Marcelo on Apr 15, 2021 12:35:18 GMT -5
Some old met bloke on netweather lived in the Falklands and said it felt considerably warmer in summer than a place in Wales where he lived - interesting. He said the sun was very strong compared to in the UK. Also, we are seeing outdated averages for the Falklands here. But, I would choose Orkney for the milder winters. @logan5 used to live in the Falklands?
Falklands is the better climate of these two British islands. Mt Pleasant over the past 20 years has average highs of 17c in January, and it's far drier and sunnier than Orkney.
It seems over the top for me.
One thing is saying so about Kirkwall, which has a very exposed location at 59ยฐN, records less than 1200 sunshine hours per year and whose summers are like 10/16C, but Wales is overall too warmish and mild.
Never been to the Falklands (I'm banned!), but I did work in Tierra del Fuego, and the summers are as miserable as they look. On the other hand, the warmer days are often extremely windy, so your summery 8/20C day may end up being a catastrophe. I highly doubt that summers in Wales feel cooler.
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Post by MET on Apr 15, 2021 12:54:52 GMT -5
It seems over the top for me.
One thing is saying so about Kirkwall, which has a very exposed location at 59ยฐN, records less than 1200 sunshine hours per year and whose summers are like 10/16C, but Wales is overall too warmish and mild.
Never been to the Falklands (I'm banned!), but I did work in Tierra del Fuego, and the summers are as miserable as they look. On the other hand, the warmer days are often extremely windy, so your summery 8/20C day may end up being a catastrophe. I highly doubt that summers in Wales feel cooler.
The Met Office guy on netweather.tv is called John Holmes (that's his username) - and he was comparing the Falklands with a coastal Island location in Wales called Anglesey.. which has avg. maxes around 17ยฐC in summer, and is also very windy.
FWIW I disagreed that Falklands would feel warmer in summer than Anglesey, but he and everybody else said I was wrong apparently. |
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Post by Marcelo on Apr 15, 2021 13:24:40 GMT -5
It seems over the top for me.
One thing is saying so about Kirkwall, which has a very exposed location at 59ยฐN, records less than 1200 sunshine hours per year and whose summers are like 10/16C, but Wales is overall too warmish and mild.
Never been to the Falklands (I'm banned!), but I did work in Tierra del Fuego, and the summers are as miserable as they look. On the other hand, the warmer days are often extremely windy, so your summery 8/20C day may end up being a catastrophe. I highly doubt that summers in Wales feel cooler.
The Met Office guy on netweather.tv is called John Holmes (that's his username) - and he was comparing the Falklands with a coastal Island location in Wales called Anglesey.. which has avg. maxes around 17ยฐC in summer, and is also very windy.
FWIW I disagreed that Falklands would feel warmer in summer than Anglesey, but he and everybody else said I was wrong apparently.
It doesn't seem to be that gloomy either.
I can imagine the area being quite windy, but I still can't see how summers in Tierra del Fuego or in the Falklands could feel warmer at all.
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Post by MET on Apr 15, 2021 13:26:29 GMT -5
eed that Falklands would feel warmer in summer than Anglesey, but he and everybody else said I was wrong apparently.
It doesn't seem to be that gloomy either.
I can imagine the area being quite windy, but I still can't see how summers in Tierra del Fuego or in the Falklands could feel warmer at all.
Right. That's what I said (to the guy on netweather). He said I was wrong. Well, whatever. |
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Post by Strewthless on Apr 15, 2021 14:03:31 GMT -5
I thought it was a parody of Joe I live in Wales, and unless the sun in the Falklands is some kind of death ray, there's no way it would feel warmer in summer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawarden#Climate |
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Post by Strewthless on Apr 15, 2021 14:08:04 GMT -5
It doesn't seem to be that gloomy either.
I can imagine the area being quite windy, but I still can't see how summers in Tierra del Fuego or in the Falklands could feel warmer at all.
Right. That's what I said (to the guy on netweather). He said I was wrong. Well, whatever. Netweather is full of cold/mildness foamers (reverse Botevs) who try to make the UK seem even cooler than it actually is. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 18:08:50 GMT -5
I thought it was a parody of Joe I live in Wales, and unless the sun in the Falklands is some kind of death ray, there's no way it would feel warmer in summer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawarden#Climate Why? - people do comment that the sun is stronger here than in places further from the equator, like the UK. I have a mate who lives in Christchurch. I met him when working in Saudi Arabia, then worked together in York, and he ended up marrying a Kiwi nurse he met in Riyadh. He has a better tan now living in New Zealand than he ever had in Saudi or York! Although, summer is so unbelievably hot in Saudi that you don't sunbathe there anyway. |
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Post by greysrigging on Apr 15, 2021 22:26:34 GMT -5
I have a mate who lives in Christchurch. I met him when working in Saudi Arabia, then worked together in York, and he ended up marrying a Kiwi nurse he met in Riyadh. He has a better tan now living in New Zealand than he ever had in Saudi or York! Although, summer is so unbelievably hot in Saudi that you don't sunbathe there anyway. Yep, pretty much still got my summer tan, but never really lose it, rather it just fades somewhat. Have seen people from Northern Europe who were so pale that it almost seemed "alien" - forgive the dramatics, but can't think of a better way to describe it ....translucent maybe? I never want to sunbathe here, let alone somewhere like Saudi Arabia - that would be a definition of crazy. I've been burnt by the sun much worse working in Hobart and Melbourne than a life time in Darwin, the sun is a bastard in the higher latitudes |
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Post by Ariete on Apr 15, 2021 23:00:00 GMT -5
Malvinas might not seem so important geopolitically currently, but in the far future (100+ years from now) with a warming Antarctica will come a push to settle and colonise the new land. It is in the best interests for Britain to maintain a presence there, I get it. I was kind of just joking with the "Malvinas Argentinas" thing, although the Spanish (thus Argentine) claim was established first and thus is more legitimate. I'd prefer them belong to Argentina but if the 2 countries can collaborate on Antarctic colonisation one day in order to keep China and Russia out of the Antarctic, then I'm for them remaining British. Ideally they would belong to Argentina and Argentina would allow Britain to maintain an RAF base there for free. That arrangement would benefit both Argentina and the UK. I'm gonna call them Malvinas though, because I'm a native Spanish speaker.
The Spanish abandoned the Falklands, and thus their claim became null and void. When the British arrived the islands were empty.
Kirkwall for me BTW. A little more sun doesn't help when the "summers" are absolutely abysmal, not merely lacking like the Argentine claim.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 3:14:44 GMT -5
I have a mate who lives in Christchurch. I met him when working in Saudi Arabia, then worked together in York, and he ended up marrying a Kiwi nurse he met in Riyadh. He has a better tan now living in New Zealand than he ever had in Saudi or York! Although, summer is so unbelievably hot in Saudi that you don't sunbathe there anyway. Yep, pretty much still got my summer tan, but never really lose it, rather it just fades ย somewhat. ย Have seen people from Northern Europe who were so pale ย that it almost seemed "alien" - ย forgive the dramatics, but can't think of a better way to describe it ....translucent maybe? I never want to sunbathe here, let alone somewhere like Saudi Arabia - that would be a definition of crazy. Yeah there's obviously a big difference in sun strength between here and NZ. Everybody all over Europe knows about the pale English getting burnt abroad in the sun ๐ I'm a mixture of Hungarian and Indian, so I never really go that pale, so I don't really burn. If you try sunbathing in Saudi in summer, within 5 minutes you start feeling like you're going to pass out. Mid-high 40's and intense sun for months on end is a killer! |
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Post by greysrigging on Apr 16, 2021 4:46:12 GMT -5
Yep, pretty much still got my summer tan, but never really lose it, rather it just fades somewhat. Have seen people from Northern Europe who were so pale that it almost seemed "alien" - forgive the dramatics, but can't think of a better way to describe it ....translucent maybe? I never want to sunbathe here, let alone somewhere like Saudi Arabia - that would be a definition of crazy. Yeah there's obviously a big difference in sun strength between here and NZ. Everybody all over Europe knows about the pale English getting burnt abroad in the sun ๐ I'm a mixture of Hungarian and Indian, so I never really go that pale, so I don't really burn. If you try sunbathing in Saudi in summer, within 5 minutes you start feeling like you're going to pass out. Mid-high 40's and intense sun for months on end is a killer! The Middle East does heat mitigation way better than in the West.... the people wear loose fitting light coloured clothing that allows air flow and promotes cooling via the bodies natural sweating. I've had to wear industrial longs in the Pilbara heat, and its actually better than a singlet and shorts back in the day..... |
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Post by Marcelo on Apr 16, 2021 10:09:46 GMT -5
Malvinas might not seem so important geopolitically currently, but in the far future (100+ years from now) with a warming Antarctica will come a push to settle and colonise the new land. It is in the best interests for Britain to maintain a presence there, I get it. I was kind of just joking with the "Malvinas Argentinas" thing, although the Spanish (thus Argentine) claim was established first and thus is more legitimate. I'd prefer them belong to Argentina but if the 2 countries can collaborate on Antarctic colonisation one day in order to keep China and Russia out of the Antarctic, then I'm for them remaining British. Ideally they would belong to Argentina and Argentina would allow Britain to maintain an RAF base there for free. That arrangement would benefit both Argentina and the UK. I'm gonna call them Malvinas though, because I'm a native Spanish speaker.
The Spanish abandoned the Falklands, and thus their claim became null and void. When the British arrived the islands were empty.
Kirkwall for me BTW. A little more sun doesn't help when the "summers" are absolutely abysmal, not merely lacking like the Argentine claim.
When Charles Darwin visited the islands in 1833 during his famous journey on the Beagle, he was amazed to find out that the only native land mammal was a โfox-wolf like creatureโ that the locals who guided him during his stay called โ warrahโ.
He also was caught attention by some bizarre geologic faults, but nevertheless stated that no seismic activity occurs in the islands, trusting the word of a long-term resident whose knowledge was based on his previous experiences in his highly seismic homeland.
Sorry for the off-topic, but as it seems to be of your interest, I fully recommend the Darwin notes and letters. They combine accounts on scientific exploration, first person experiences and views of the surrounding world which make a very entertaining reading, at least for me. Furthermore it widens a lot the perception of what the world was like almost two centuries ago.
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