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Post by Crunch41 on Feb 17, 2023 23:25:28 GMT -5
@rg6832614 from a Shoutbox conversation, 10C lows in winter in Milwaukee have happened but not in February.
50F lows:
February's closest was a 60/49 day in 1930. January recorded a 60/51 day in 1871 but I think temps were only measured a few times a day instead of a max/min thermometer. In the 150 years since then the highest was only 44F, so a 51F low is very odd.
December had a 60/52 day in 1946 and 60/50 in 2001.
Overnight temps above 50 happen sometimes in December but it generally doesn't last the full day. Some examples:
On the 60/50 day in 2001, it warmed up from 50 in the morning to 60 in the afternoon, stayed in the upper 50's overnight and reached a record 68 the next day. But it dropped into the 40's around 10pm. In December 2021, 68F was reached again, this time between midnight and 2am. Surely that means a low in the 50s? No. It dropped to 49 by 5am that day, and was 48 the previous morning at 5:15am. Not even 24 consecutive hours above 50. December 29th, 2022 was 58F at midnight, and it was above 50f from 8am to 5am. That must be the closest I've been to a 50F low in January.
And since Cheeseman will probably wonder about Madison, these are their monthly records: December: 54 in 1982 January: 45 in 1944 February: 47 in 1930
Five total 50F lows in December, more than me despite the colder averages. 62/54 on the 2nd in 1982 with 1.58" rainfall. 60/51 on the 5th in 2001 with trace 62/52 on the 5th in 1998 with trace 62/53 on the 20th in 1877! 58/51 on the 23rd in 1877! December 1877 was extremely mild at 42.5/34.4, and the 10th-30th were all at least 10F above average. Cross your fingers for a repeat in 2023. Source nowdata.rcc-acis.org/mkx/ for daily data and Iowa Mesonet for hourly. |
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Post by Cheeseman on Feb 17, 2023 23:35:41 GMT -5
Crunch41 Wow, Dec 1877 was epic...those were the days... I do remember Dec 5, 2001. I was in 4th grade at the time. Officially, Green Bay was 60/46 on the 4th and 64/39 on the 5th; Appleton was 59/43 on the 4th and 59/37 on the 5th; 62 is what we got up to on my PWS at home from that off the top of my head. If I recall correctly, there was rain but no thunder that day. Still amazing considering that is meteorological winter after all! And yes, I'll take a repeat of December 1877, January 1880, and February 1882 if we're talking about vintage winter months in Madison: all three of those are still the warmest on record to this day.
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Post by Crunch41 on Feb 18, 2023 13:08:17 GMT -5
I remember a day that reached 50 with a thunderstorm in January...it was January 2013 in Madison. 54/35 with 1.84" on the 29th. Then a cold front with 6" of snow the next day. It was an exciting day since I can't remember thunder in January any other year.
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Post by greysrigging on Feb 18, 2023 17:22:16 GMT -5
Melbourne 40c max temps....  Melbourne ( AU ) is renowned for its changeable summer max temps, from heat to cold to heat and cold again. Despite what the general public in AU thinks, +40c days are not that common in the Victorian capital Here are the figures by the decade: Decades +40c and years per decade without a +40c 2023-2014 = 21 ( 3 ) 2013-2004 = 20 ( 0 ) 2003-1994 = 12 ( 3 ) 1993-1984 = 10 ( 6 ) 1983-1974 = 19 ( 3 ) 1973-1964 = 12 ( 6 ) 1963-1954 = 8 ( 5 ) 1953-1944 = 9 ( 3 ) 1943-1934 = 12 ( 5 ) 1933-1924 = 8 ( 4 ) 1923-1914 = 9 ( 3 ) 1913-1904 = 17 ( 2 ) 1903-1894 = 21 ( 3 ) 1893-1884 = 7 ( 3 ) 1883-1874 = 11 ( 5 ) 1873-1864 = 11 ( 4 ) 1863-1855 = 8 ( 4 ) Total = 215 +40c days in Melbourne since records began in 1855. And 64 years out of 168 years haven't reached the 40c mark. The most +40c days in one year: 2019 = 7 2014 = 7 1900 = 6 1898 = 6 2009 = 5 1908 = 5 1905 = 5 |
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Post by jetshnl on Feb 18, 2023 18:25:11 GMT -5
Melbourne 40c max temps.... Melbourne ( AU ) is renowned for its changeable summer max temps, from heat to cold to heat and cold again. Despite what the general public in AU thinks, +40c days are not that common in the Victorian capital Here are the figures by the decade: Decades +40c and years per decade without a +40c 2023-2014 = 9 ( 3 ) 2013-2004 = 20 ( 0 ) 2003-1994 = 12 ( 3 ) 1993-1984 = 10 ( 6 ) 1983-1974 = 19 ( 3 ) 1973-1964 = 12 ( 6 ) 1963-1954 = 8 ( 5 ) 1953-1944 = 9 ( 3 ) 1943-1934 = 12 ( 5 ) 1933-1924 = 8 ( 4 ) 1923-1914 = 9 ( 3 ) 1913-1904 = 17 ( 2 ) 1903-1894 = 21 ( 3 ) 1893-1884 = 7 ( 3 ) 1883-1874 = 11 ( 5 ) 1873-1864 = 11 ( 4 ) 1863-1855 = 8 ( 4 ) Total = 203 +40c days in Melbourne since records began in 1855. And 64 years out of 168 years haven't reached the 40c mark. The most +40c days in one year: 2014 = 7 1900 = 6 1898 = 6 2019 = 5 2009 = 5 1908 = 5 1905 = 5 Them aussies need to work on their spelling “frist” |
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Post by greysrigging on Feb 18, 2023 18:35:45 GMT -5
^^ indeed lol.... that plays havoc with my mild OCD.....haha
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Post by cawfeefan on Feb 19, 2023 5:42:13 GMT -5
Melbourne 40c max temps.... Melbourne ( AU ) is renowned for its changeable summer max temps, from heat to cold to heat and cold again. Despite what the general public in AU thinks, +40c days are not that common in the Victorian capital Here are the figures by the decade: Decades +40c and years per decade without a +40c 2023-2014 = 9 ( 3 ) 2013-2004 = 20 ( 0 ) 2003-1994 = 12 ( 3 ) 1993-1984 = 10 ( 6 ) 1983-1974 = 19 ( 3 ) 1973-1964 = 12 ( 6 ) 1963-1954 = 8 ( 5 ) 1953-1944 = 9 ( 3 ) 1943-1934 = 12 ( 5 ) 1933-1924 = 8 ( 4 ) 1923-1914 = 9 ( 3 ) 1913-1904 = 17 ( 2 ) 1903-1894 = 21 ( 3 ) 1893-1884 = 7 ( 3 ) 1883-1874 = 11 ( 5 ) 1873-1864 = 11 ( 4 ) 1863-1855 = 8 ( 4 ) Total = 203 +40c days in Melbourne since records began in 1855. And 64 years out of 168 years haven't reached the 40c mark. The most +40c days in one year: 2014 = 7 1900 = 6 1898 = 6 2019 = 5 2009 = 5 1908 = 5 1905 = 5 There's been more than 9 days that reached 40C this past decade. Looking at each year individually: 2014 = 7 2015 = 1 2016 = 1 2017 = 0 2018 = 3 2019 = 7 2020 = 1 2021 = 0 2022 = 0 2023 = 1 (so far) Which gives a total of 21 days. |
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Post by greysrigging on Feb 19, 2023 16:45:47 GMT -5
^^Oops, you are right...can't read my own notes....and didn't use the 'above 40c' feature in the BoM search engine.....^^
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Post by greysrigging on Feb 19, 2023 21:31:54 GMT -5
41.7c in Roebourne at 10.20am  |
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Post by jetshnl on Feb 19, 2023 21:45:43 GMT -5
41.7c in Roebourne at 10.20am I am more impressed with Frederick Reef QLD |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2023 8:58:22 GMT -5
There was like a -47 something reading last AU summer too. Wonder what's behind those errors?
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Post by Cheeseman on Feb 20, 2023 9:09:53 GMT -5
I remember a day that reached 50 with a thunderstorm in January...it was January 2013 in Madison. 54/35 with 1.84" on the 29th. Then a cold front with 6" of snow the next day. It was an exciting day since I can't remember thunder in January any other year. I remember thundersnow on February 2, 2016 in Appleton. Still not quite the same as rain with thunder in January - though most recently, I saw rain with thunder in December on Dec 15, 2021. |
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Post by Crunch41 on Feb 22, 2023 13:56:19 GMT -5
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Post by Ariete on Feb 27, 2023 11:05:28 GMT -5
Beautiful snowpack in Ulaanbaatar:
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Post by Steelernation on Feb 28, 2023 0:58:33 GMT -5
From a shoutbox conversation earlier, snowiest month by season (July 1-June 30).
Out of 115 complete years:
March: 33 (Most recent 2020-2021)
December: 17 (Most recent 2008-2009)
April: 16 (Most recent 2012-2013)
February: 15 (Most recent 2021-2022)
January: 14 (Most recent 2016-2017)
November: 13 (Most recent 2019-2020)
October: 3 (Most recent 2009-2010)
May: 1 (1977-1978)
September: 1 (1971-1972)
No surprise March has by far most as it’s easily the snowiest month.
The next 5 months all average 6-8” so it makes sense they’d all be relatively similar.
What’s incredible is May and September being the snowiest month in a season. In 1971-1972, September’s average high was 31 f warmer than January and in 1977-1978 May’s average high was 32 f warmer. Yet they were the snowiest month in that season.
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Post by greysrigging on Mar 4, 2023 19:15:07 GMT -5
Cyclone FREDDY ( source: iCyclone FB Page )   Saturday afternoon (Mozambique, Madagascar): The incredible Cyclone FREDDY saga continues! A full month after forming near Western Australia, almost two weeks after devastating Madagascar, and after many days of meandering around Mozambique, FREDDY is back over water and coming back to life—like a spirit rising from the dead. Some of the computer models show it becoming an intense cyclone again. Could mean trouble...  |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 7, 2023 18:15:21 GMT -5
Overall pretty happy with this past winter here, despite being warmer and less snowy than normal. It took a while to get started but the snow has been consistent enough and temps cold enough to allow a stable snowpack. Average winters must be even nicer. That said, I am looking forward to warmer temps. Not the bugs though.  |
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Post by greysrigging on Mar 11, 2023 2:38:36 GMT -5
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Post by Benfxmth on Mar 11, 2023 20:03:17 GMT -5
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 13, 2023 0:08:37 GMT -5
Interestingly, each winter here I’ve grown less and less happy with.
Winter here is far warmer than Shitchester so the first winter it felt like it came and went. Not that I rooted against it, but I had no need for spring to come.
The second winter (2021-2022) I was ready when warmer temps came but I wasn’t sick of winter and I largely enjoyed it.
Now this winter I can’t wait for spring and ice been sick and tired of it since February. Not quite as bad, but I’ve been feeling like I’m back in Shitchester just wishing for spring and that winter is dragging on and on.
Average high by month November-March for the last 3 winters.
20-21: 58, 48, 45, 38, 53
21-22: 60, 51, 44, 44, 56
22-23: 49, 43, 39, 47, 45* * = March 1-12
This has definitely been the coldest and longest with November and the first half at least of March being chilly. February 2021 was cold but it was exciting and had a bunch of mild days mixed in, unlike this January.
I think the cold November and the very consistent, stable cold the 2nd half of January were the main problems. Also possible I’ve just acclimated to Fort Collins averages. If that’s the case, I wonder at what point would I stop getting sick of winter by the end.
I still very much enjoy the brief, strong cold snaps where there’s 1-2 days of single digit highs than it warms back up but I’ve lost all patience with stable dry cold.
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