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Post by Babu on Oct 15, 2017 9:39:23 GMT -5
I thought we needed one of these were we can just discuss general weather and climates so we don't need to start threads for every new topic of discussion.
Apparently Öland's northern edge has got a sun station since mid-2008, but for some reason it's left out from SMHI's publications. The sunshine 2009-2016 was 2080h I believe 2002-2008 was a little sunnier, so seems Öland is as sunny as Gotland. Too bad about the large seasonal lag (and I suspect wind), because 22.5/15.5 and 1.7/-1.0 in July and January, coupled with 2100h sounds really good actually for Scandinavia.
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Post by boombo on Oct 15, 2017 9:47:30 GMT -5
What's the sunniest place in Sweden for 1981-2010? As far as I'm aware we're still waiting for anywhere in Europe above 50N to "officially" be able to claim over 2000 hours, best I know of is 1990 hours in Utö in Finland.
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Post by Babu on Oct 15, 2017 9:48:42 GMT -5
What's the sunniest place in Sweden for 1981-2010? As far as I'm aware we're still waiting for anywhere in Europe above 50N to "officially" be able to claim over 2000 hours, best I know of is 1990 hours in Utö in Finland. Couldn't tell you as SMHI doesn't publish those data. Couls be Visby, could be Utö, could be Holmön, and could be Skagen |
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Post by Babu on Oct 15, 2017 10:23:22 GMT -5
I used this graph.  I tallied the estimated numbers off of that chart and came to 2030h for 1983-2010 and 2050 for 1983-2013. I don't think I'd be more than perhaps 15h off. Still not 100% official, but it seems Visby definitely got 2000h for 1981-2010. |
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Post by Babu on Oct 15, 2017 11:57:13 GMT -5
Karlskrona got a weather station in 2009. Since then it has averaged 2134h. That's really good for a non-island. Although the actual recorder is a couple of kilometers or so away from the city on an archepelago. A little cheating.
Edit: Visby averaged 2154 for the same period, so Karlskrona really is neck and neck with Visby.
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Post by boombo on Oct 16, 2017 4:34:44 GMT -5
Big weather event in Ireland today with ex-Hurricane Ophelia, top wind speed so far of 92 mph (148 km/h) but it might get stronger later on. Nothing at all here so far, we're going to be on the very edge of it anyway but we're still expecting gusts of up to 50 mph in the evening. The main issue is the warm air this hurricane's dragging up behind it, today might be the latest 20C we've ever recorded. www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-41633276 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 4:38:29 GMT -5
Big weather event in Ireland today with ex-Hurricane Ophelia, top wind speed so far of 92 mph (148 km/h) but it might get stronger later on. Nothing at all here so far, we're going to be on the very edge of it anyway but we're still expecting gusts of up to 50 mph in the evening. The main issue is the warm air this hurricane's dragging up behind it, today might be the latest 20C we've ever recorded. www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-41633276came across this on bbc. what a fail. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Storm_of_1987i lol'd. |
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Post by boombo on Oct 16, 2017 4:43:31 GMT -5
^^ Haha, that little mistake of not forecasting the biggest storm to hit the south of England in 300 years six hours before it came didn't actually kill Michael Fish's career, but he never lived it down. He's still probably the best-known weather forecaster in the country because of that even years and years after he retired  |
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Post by Beercules on Oct 16, 2017 4:55:36 GMT -5
Some new weather stations in outback NSW came online this year. Will be interesting to see what temps they produce over summer, and they could be good candidates for a potential 50C. So far, "Delta" seems to be producing the best temps.  |
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Post by Beercules on Oct 16, 2017 7:05:07 GMT -5
Some 1st half of Cocktober average temps for major towns comparable latitude to mine, nearby, and also my home state of Vic.
VIC
Melbourne............. 9.8/19.5C
Melbourne AP......... 7.2/20.9C
Phillip Is.............. 10.4/18.1C
Geelong ................ 8.6/19.3C
Traralgon .............. 7.0/20.0C
Warnambool.......... 7.8/17.2C
Portland AP............ 8.9/16.7C
Ballarat ................ 6.1/17.6C
Bendigo ................ 7.4/21.5C
Shepparton ........... 6.9/22.0C
Albury .................. 7.7/22.0C
Swan Hill .............. 6.8/24.3C
Mildura ................. 9.8/25.7C
SA
Adelaide ............... 10.9/22.8C
Mt Gambier ............ 7.7/18.3C
Kingscote ............... 7.4/20.2C
Narcoorte ............... 7.6/20.0C
Robe ..................... 8.8/18.3C
Loxton ................... 8.6/25.4C
Renmark AP............ 8.8/26.0C
Port Augusta ........ 11.9/27.1C
Whyalla ................. 9.8/24.7C
Ceduna ................ 10.1/23.4C
Nullabour................ 9.5/23.8C
NSW
Sydney Obs Hill ..... 15.6/23.5C
Sydney AP ............ 15.2/24.2C
Penrith ................. 13.8/26.2C
Deniliquin ............... 7.3/23.8C
Hay ....................... 8.5/26.1C
Griffith ................... 9.8/25.9C
Wagga Wagga ......... 7.2/23.6C
Broken Hill ............ 11.6/26.1C
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 7:08:17 GMT -5
^^ Haha, that little mistake of not forecasting the biggest storm to hit the south of England in 300 years six hours before it came didn't actually kill Michael Fish's career, but he never lived it down. He's still probably the best-known weather forecaster in the country because of that even years and years after he retired 30 years the day since the great storm of Michael Fish |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 6:25:48 GMT -5
Some new weather stations in outback NSW came online this year. Will be interesting to see what temps they produce over summer, and they could be good candidates for a potential 50C. So far, "Delta" seems to be producing the best temps. Interesting. Hope they would add weather stations in or near Lake Eyre in SA. I hear that this place can be almost as dry as some areas in the Sahara and CA. But that's just talks. |
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Post by jgtheone on Oct 18, 2017 6:36:05 GMT -5
Some new weather stations in outback NSW came online this year. Will be interesting to see what temps they produce over summer, and they could be good candidates for a potential 50C. So far, "Delta" seems to be producing the best temps. That's exciting, I'd love to see a 50°C turn up in an observation. So far I've only seen 49°C at Moomba. |
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Post by Beercules on Oct 18, 2017 7:32:13 GMT -5
Some new weather stations in outback NSW came online this year. Will be interesting to see what temps they produce over summer, and they could be good candidates for a potential 50C. So far, "Delta" seems to be producing the best temps. Interesting. Hope they would add weather stations in or near Lake Eyre in SA. I hear that this place can be almost as dry as some areas in the Sahara and CA. But that's just talks. The area around Lake Eyre is infact the driest area of Australia. I definitely would like to see a couple stations set up around Lake Eyre at below sea level. jgtheone , 48 and 49C are commonly reached in the SA and WA heat epicenters, but that last degree is always so elusive. Moomba and Oodnadatta are the best stations for heat in SA, but I reckon a station below sea level near Lake Eyre would do better... Of those new NSW stations, Delta is the best performer. Smithville doesn't seem to be any hotter than the existing nearby station. Murululu is slightly higher in elevation than Pooncarie so it is unlikely to record anything more significantly impressive than Pooncarie. |
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Post by Beercules on Oct 18, 2017 7:43:28 GMT -5
Adelaide recorded an overnight low of 25.4C last night, warmest Oct night in 30 years. The suburb of Noarlunga recorded 26.0C. And these lows won't be destroyed by the 24hr reset as the temp at 9am the previous day was higher. Renmark Airport's low by contrast was a FULL 10C COLDER  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 21:30:34 GMT -5
Interesting. Hope they would add weather stations in or near Lake Eyre in SA. I hear that this place can be almost as dry as some areas in the Sahara and CA. But that's just talks. The area around Lake Eyre is infact the driest area of Australia. I definitely would like to see a couple stations set up around Lake Eyre at below sea level. jgtheone , 48 and 49C are commonly reached in the SA and WA heat epicenters, but that last degree is always so elusive. Moomba and Oodnadatta are the best stations for heat in SA, but I reckon a station below sea level near Lake Eyre would do better... Yep. Lake Eyre might pull a Death Valley. Well, maybe a lite version of it. Lol. I can definitely see Lake Eyre getting a few 50C days in the lower parts. |
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Post by Nidaros on Oct 19, 2017 14:57:57 GMT -5
We've had a weak spring here, the coldest August since 2005, the fourth coldest July the last 15 years - and still some have managed to get ripe grapes here (at the coast near the mouth of the fjord). And that is of course without use of greenhouse (ikke drivhus) or anything like that.
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Post by Babu on Oct 19, 2017 15:14:16 GMT -5
We've had a weak spring here, the coldest August since 2005, the fourth coldest July the last 15 years - and still some have managed to get ripe grapes here (at the coast near the mouth of the fjord). And that is of course without use of greenhouse (ikke drivhus) or anything like that. Wow, impressive. Can you really grow non-sheltered grapes in Trondheim? Not bad at all. I wonder what the northernmost place in Sweden is where you could do that. Edit: Oh, apparently there are grape species capable of being hardy even up to Luleå and perhaps Haparanda. I will totally try planting grapes some time! |
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Post by Babu on Oct 20, 2017 12:02:39 GMT -5
How much shelter against cold winters do you think a non-broken shed with a closed door offers? Surely the temps within must be similar to the winter means, but less susceptible to extreme temperatures? Do you think a tree would stand a better chance of surviving a winter if planted in soil outside, getting covered by snow and ice, or in a pot inside such a shed?
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Post by Nidaros on Oct 20, 2017 12:52:17 GMT -5
How much shelter against cold winters do you think a non-broken shed with a closed door offers? Surely the temps within must be similar to the winter means, but less susceptible to extreme temperatures? Do you think a tree would stand a better chance of surviving a winter if planted in soil outside, getting covered by snow and ice, or in a pot inside such a shed? Hmm, it will offer protection from strong winds that may brake of branches. It will also offer protection from heavy snow loads that might damage branches. However, it will not offer shelter against the temperatures themselves (unless it is heated), as the shed will be at the same temperature as the air outside. But it will protect from very damp and humid conditions in the soil outside, if you have freeze - thaw cycles. On the other hand, many plants start growing to early in the spring sun, while the soil is still frozen, so the roots can't get water and the plant gets damage from lack of water - and a later freeze might damage it as well. So in the early spring, a shed is a good idea. Many cover their plants in early spring if the plant is susceptible to start growing to early in sunny weather. Depends on the plant type I guess. |
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