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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 7:32:57 GMT -5
When you were living in Reading, was the climate exactly how you expected it to be? It was drier and sunnier than I was expecting, but I think it was also drier and sunnier than normal when I was there. It seemed surprisingly cold in early May-not much warmer than February. The relative lack of seasonality was the main thing that annoyed me about the climate; for the most part I don't mind cool, cloudy weather. When were you here? Between Jan-May, we had the following. Jan: drier than normal, average sun Feb: average rainfall, very sunny Mar: average rainfall and sun Apr: drier than normal, average sun May: average rainfall, below average sun
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Post by srfoskey on Feb 17, 2020 0:48:09 GMT -5
It was drier and sunnier than I was expecting, but I think it was also drier and sunnier than normal when I was there. It seemed surprisingly cold in early May-not much warmer than February. The relative lack of seasonality was the main thing that annoyed me about the climate; for the most part I don't mind cool, cloudy weather. When were you here? Between Jan-May, we had the following. Jan: drier than normal, average sun Feb: average rainfall, very sunny Mar: average rainfall and sun Apr: drier than normal, average sun May: average rainfall, below average sun I was there from about Jan 6-May 28, excepting 3 weeks of travel around Europe.
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Post by Crunch41 on Feb 17, 2020 19:04:56 GMT -5
Saw this today. It fits a bunch of the stereotypes about cold places. "Anna" is on vacation right now so the poster's extra mad at her.
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Post by omegaraptor on Feb 17, 2020 20:12:00 GMT -5
Talking about windchill as if it’s actual temp. “It was -55°F with the wind chill!”
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 20:33:54 GMT -5
Talking about windchill as if it’s actual temp. “It was -55°F with the wind chill!” PWS amateurs with their non-standard exposure. Someone in south Wales getting 40c highs routinely through summer, and thinking they had the hottest summers ever in the UK.
I put a thermometer on the patio floor during a June heatwave in 2004 or 2005, and it got to 58c.
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Post by alex992 on Feb 18, 2020 11:42:35 GMT -5
Saw this today. It fits a bunch of the stereotypes about cold places. "Anna" is on vacation right now so the poster's extra mad at her. -55 F is literally the all-time record low for the state of Wisconsin. I swear to god "normal" people are such fucking morons. It'd be just as accurate to try and act like 113 F is normal summer temp in Wisconsin. "Not seeing the sun for six months" lmao, where does this person they live? The North Pole? "Dying from exposure" I'd venture to guess that in Wisconsin, the grand majority of the time the temps in winter are between 0 F and 20 F. Perfectly safe and fine temperatures, you just gotta bundle up. People act like anything that's not totally comfortable is dangerous weather. Now, of course, cold waves in a Wisconsin winter can be dangerous, but easily survivable. I've noticed this from a lot of cold haters. Why do they get so angry when someone likes what they hate? I don't understand it. I swear when technology ends up being detrimental to us and things become a "survival of the fittest" situation, these whiny morons will be the first ones to die.
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Post by alex992 on Feb 18, 2020 12:00:49 GMT -5
Talking about windchill as if it’s actual temp. “It was -55°F with the wind chill!” I bet even a -55 F wind chill is very rare in Wisconsin.
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Post by Crunch41 on Feb 18, 2020 19:53:37 GMT -5
alex992 omegaraptor Yes this person is an idiot. I bet they say it's too hot in summer, too. A -55F wind chill IS very rare in Wisconsin, especially the southeast part where this person lives. Milwaukee's all time wind chill record is probably in the low -40s. With a record of -26F, it would take an 18mph wind to reach a -55 wind chill. In the northern parts -55 wind chill would be an extreme event like the one that happened last winter. The coldest month in Milwaukee is 29/15F -2/-9C, so 0-20 is exaggerating and a better range would be 10-30F. 20-40 would fit better this winter. You don't need special arctic gear to survive the cold here and we don't get the massive snowstorms that the eastern Great Lakes gets either. Northern Wisconsin is generally between 0 and 20 though, and the parts near Lake Superior can get a lot of snow so the winter is more extreme there. Still nothing like they say. People say so many stupid things about the weather.
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Post by omegaraptor on Feb 18, 2020 19:57:39 GMT -5
Saw this today. It fits a bunch of the stereotypes about cold places. "Anna" is on vacation right now so the poster's extra mad at her. -55 F is literally the all-time record low for the state of Wisconsin. I swear to god "normal" people are such fucking morons. It'd be just as accurate to try and act like 113 F is normal summer temp in Wisconsin. "Not seeing the sun for six months" lmao, where does this person they live? The North Pole? "Dying from exposure" I'd venture to guess that in Wisconsin, the grand majority of the time the temps in winter are between 0 F and 20 F. Perfectly safe and fine temperatures, you just gotta bundle up. People act like anything that's not totally comfortable is dangerous weather. Now, of course, cold waves in a Wisconsin winter can be dangerous, but easily survivable. I've noticed this from a lot of cold haters. Why do they get so angry when someone likes what they hate? I don't understand it. I swear when technology ends up being detrimental to us and things become a "survival of the fittest" situation, these whiny morons will be the first ones to die. Well, since it's east of the Rockies it's safe to assume it's 90ºF with 90% humidity every day in summer. So 113ºF heat index is probably normal in summer. On another note, the idea that weather follows state lines. 1 mile before crossing the Oregon/California border it's 48ºF and drizzle, 1 mile after crossing the border it's 95ºF and sunny. Same with VA/NC border, 1 mile before crossing it's -30ºF and whiteout conditions, 1 mile after it's 90ºF with 90% humidity. This tends to lead to "Wow, it's snowing in Arizona?!?!?!?" when snow in parts of Arizona is completely normal and frequently happens.
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Post by trolik on Feb 18, 2020 20:17:17 GMT -5
Saw this today. It fits a bunch of the stereotypes about cold places. "Anna" is on vacation right now so the poster's extra mad at her. -55 F is literally the all-time record low for the state of Wisconsin. I swear to god "normal" people are such fucking morons. It'd be just as accurate to try and act like 113 F is normal summer temp in Wisconsin. "Not seeing the sun for six months" lmao, where does this person they live? The North Pole? "Dying from exposure" I'd venture to guess that in Wisconsin, the grand majority of the time the temps in winter are between 0 F and 20 F. Perfectly safe and fine temperatures, you just gotta bundle up. People act like anything that's not totally comfortable is dangerous weather. Now, of course, cold waves in a Wisconsin winter can be dangerous, but easily survivable. I've noticed this from a lot of cold haters. Why do they get so angry when someone likes what they hate? I don't understand it. I swear when technology ends up being detrimental to us and things become a "survival of the fittest" situation, these whiny morons will be the first ones to die. 0-20f is hardly safe and fine lmao
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Post by tij on Feb 18, 2020 20:53:10 GMT -5
-55 F is literally the all-time record low for the state of Wisconsin. I swear to god "normal" people are such fucking morons. It'd be just as accurate to try and act like 113 F is normal summer temp in Wisconsin. "Not seeing the sun for six months" lmao, where does this person they live? The North Pole? "Dying from exposure" I'd venture to guess that in Wisconsin, the grand majority of the time the temps in winter are between 0 F and 20 F. Perfectly safe and fine temperatures, you just gotta bundle up. People act like anything that's not totally comfortable is dangerous weather. Now, of course, cold waves in a Wisconsin winter can be dangerous, but easily survivable. I've noticed this from a lot of cold haters. Why do they get so angry when someone likes what they hate? I don't understand it. I swear when technology ends up being detrimental to us and things become a "survival of the fittest" situation, these whiny morons will be the first ones to die. 0-20f is hardly safe and fine lmao 0-20f is cold, but it poses no severe risk of frostbite with appropriate adaptations and clothing (as in a hat, a coat, and gloves, not arctic gear), even in southern Minnesota (which is a bit harsher on average), most days are certainly cold but rarely are conditions dangerous except during cold waves. Someone seems at a low risk from frostbite until its about -17f/-27c or so according to this source (https://www.tripsavvy.com/frostbite-risk-broken-down-by-temperature-2392015), which even for southern Minnesota, typically only can occur briefly in the early morning on the very coldest nights of winter. It seems to be more of a concern as you head further north into the Canadian Prairies but even there most days aren't dangerous, just harsh. www.vox.com/2016/1/19/10788306/wind-chill-meaning <-- article explaining how windchills tend to be exaggerated and tend to reflect the worst-case scenario possible as forecasters/public advisors tend to be overly cautious.
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Post by alex992 on Feb 18, 2020 22:43:25 GMT -5
-55 F is literally the all-time record low for the state of Wisconsin. I swear to god "normal" people are such fucking morons. It'd be just as accurate to try and act like 113 F is normal summer temp in Wisconsin. "Not seeing the sun for six months" lmao, where does this person they live? The North Pole? "Dying from exposure" I'd venture to guess that in Wisconsin, the grand majority of the time the temps in winter are between 0 F and 20 F. Perfectly safe and fine temperatures, you just gotta bundle up. People act like anything that's not totally comfortable is dangerous weather. Now, of course, cold waves in a Wisconsin winter can be dangerous, but easily survivable. I've noticed this from a lot of cold haters. Why do they get so angry when someone likes what they hate? I don't understand it. I swear when technology ends up being detrimental to us and things become a "survival of the fittest" situation, these whiny morons will be the first ones to die. 0-20f is hardly safe and fine lmao Anyone who's not a moron can easily survive 0-20 F temps.
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Post by alex992 on Feb 18, 2020 22:46:05 GMT -5
alex992 omegaraptor Yes this person is an idiot. I bet they say it's too hot in summer, too. A -55F wind chill IS very rare in Wisconsin, especially the southeast part where this person lives. Milwaukee's all time wind chill record is probably in the low -40s. With a record of -26F, it would take an 18mph wind to reach a -55 wind chill. In the northern parts -55 wind chill would be an extreme event like the one that happened last winter. The coldest month in Milwaukee is 29/15F -2/-9C, so 0-20 is exaggerating and a better range would be 10-30F. 20-40 would fit better this winter. You don't need special arctic gear to survive the cold here and we don't get the massive snowstorms that the eastern Great Lakes gets either. Northern Wisconsin is generally between 0 and 20 though, and the parts near Lake Superior can get a lot of snow so the winter is more extreme there. Still nothing like they say. People say so many stupid things about the weather. Yeah, when I said 0-20 F I was thinking northern Wisconsin. This person lives in SE Wisconsin by Milwaukee, which as far as I know hasn't even seen subzero this winter. Wow, what a fucking moron. lol If you go off what people say, you'd think anywhere north of Mississippi is Siberia in winter and anywhere south of Manitoba is Death Valley in summer. People need a reason to bitch and moan, so they like to exaggerate or highlight the extremes of their climate.
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Post by Nidaros on Feb 20, 2020 16:50:29 GMT -5
Tourists calling Alta wanting to rent a room in the ice hotel in August
The US Marine Corpse commander being intervjued recently here about the Cold Response military exercise in Northern Norway in March, for which allied troops and equipment are now arriving: "We come here because to we want to train with allies (that part was ok), and the training opportunities for cold weather warfare is unique, we have mountains in US but no place as cold as this (taking about Bardufoss area).
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Post by trolik on Feb 20, 2020 18:24:48 GMT -5
0-20f is hardly safe and fine lmao 0-20f is cold, but it poses no severe risk of frostbite with appropriate adaptations and clothing (as in a hat, a coat, and gloves, not arctic gear), even in southern Minnesota (which is a bit harsher on average), most days are certainly cold but rarely are conditions dangerous except during cold waves. Someone seems at a low risk from frostbite until its about -17f/-27c or so according to this source (https://www.tripsavvy.com/frostbite-risk-broken-down-by-temperature-2392015), which even for southern Minnesota, typically only can occur briefly in the early morning on the very coldest nights of winter. It seems to be more of a concern as you head further north into the Canadian Prairies but even there most days aren't dangerous, just harsh. www.vox.com/2016/1/19/10788306/wind-chill-meaning <-- article explaining how windchills tend to be exaggerated and tend to reflect the worst-case scenario possible as forecasters/public advisors tend to be overly cautious. I guess it depends where you are. If you regularly get those temps you're gonna be more prepared to withstand them whereas if they ocurred over here then it could lead to a lot of injuries or even death due to inadequate clothing.
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Post by tij on Feb 20, 2020 18:33:48 GMT -5
0-20f is cold, but it poses no severe risk of frostbite with appropriate adaptations and clothing (as in a hat, a coat, and gloves, not arctic gear), even in southern Minnesota (which is a bit harsher on average), most days are certainly cold but rarely are conditions dangerous except during cold waves. Someone seems at a low risk from frostbite until its about -17f/-27c or so according to this source (https://www.tripsavvy.com/frostbite-risk-broken-down-by-temperature-2392015), which even for southern Minnesota, typically only can occur briefly in the early morning on the very coldest nights of winter. It seems to be more of a concern as you head further north into the Canadian Prairies but even there most days aren't dangerous, just harsh. www.vox.com/2016/1/19/10788306/wind-chill-meaning <-- article explaining how windchills tend to be exaggerated and tend to reflect the worst-case scenario possible as forecasters/public advisors tend to be overly cautious. I guess it depends where you are. If you regularly get those temps you're gonna be more prepared to withstand them whereas if they ocurred over here then it could lead to a lot of injuries or even death due to inadequate clothing. Entirely agree that temperatures that people are not accustomed to can be a major risk, with both cold and with heat, individuals and communities in Alberta and Arizona are accustomed to very different conditions throughout the year and a heat/cold wave with that seem fairly typical in one place could wreak havoc on another locale's infrastructure and medical system. Also agree that there exist places like coastal Portugal and California with few extremes compared to other areas that are more comfortable than others based on the general human physiology, and that climates with cold winters do require additional adaptations to maintain safety and comfort.
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Post by trolik on Feb 20, 2020 18:42:22 GMT -5
I guess it depends where you are. If you regularly get those temps you're gonna be more prepared to withstand them whereas if they ocurred over here then it could lead to a lot of injuries or even death due to inadequate clothing. Entirely agree that temperatures that people are not accustomed to can be a major risk, with both cold and with heat, individuals and communities in Alberta and Arizona are accustomed to very different conditions throughout the year and a heat/cold wave with that seem fairly typical in one place could wreak havoc on another locale's infrastructure and medical system. Also agree that there exist places like coastal Portugal and California with few extremes compared to other areas that are more comfortable than others based on the general human physiology, and that climates with cold winters do require additional adaptations to maintain safety and comfort. Yep totally agree, especially with the last part about where humans actually find objectively comfortable. Also, I'm reading the vox article you linked and this really caught my eye - "A person with more body fat, for instance, is actually at greater risk of frostbite, because heat is trapped within the body more effectively, so less reaches the skin," guess fat people are even more fucked with both extreme heat and extreme cold.
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Post by Moron on Mar 29, 2020 1:53:53 GMT -5
People dramatising fairly regular months to make it seem extreme even though it's fairly regular. Usually it's pretty amusing. Apologies beercules not trying to target you just this quote reminded me to post this in the first place.
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Post by Beercules on Mar 29, 2020 2:10:28 GMT -5
Don't forget today, tomorrow and Tuesday, that will open up that unacceptable anomoly even further.
I'd be wary about poking a pissed off bear after a failed salmon season...
Seriously though, come on now, saying -1.2C is well below is not exactly stupid shit, especially as the gap will be opened wider. The low/high mean doesn't mean jack shit to me, that's not what I am feeling during day to day life.
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Post by Benfxmth on Mar 29, 2020 2:17:34 GMT -5
People who say that all of Italy is hot and sunny all year round.
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