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Post by Steelernation on Mar 5, 2022 16:11:06 GMT -5
Raleigh
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Post by MET on Mar 5, 2022 16:16:41 GMT -5
Melbourne.
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Post by knot on Mar 5, 2022 16:20:53 GMT -5
Melbourne. Far more sensible and comfortable.
However it must be noted that Melbourne Regional Office is in fact 1991–2015, NOT 1991–2020. I have edited the wikibox just now, so please repost it OP.
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Post by jetshnl on Mar 5, 2022 16:27:56 GMT -5
Melbourne. Far more sensible and comfortable. However it must be noted that Melbourne Regional Office is in fact 1991–2015, NOT 1991–2020. I have edited the wikibox just now, so please repost it OP. Wikipedia strikes again. |
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Post by Beercules on Mar 5, 2022 18:33:59 GMT -5
Raleigh by far. Much better summers with far more storms.
Melbourne, like most subarctic oceanic climates in the SE corner of Australia annexed by Antarctica, is fucken gay and boring.
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Post by greysrigging on Mar 5, 2022 18:43:22 GMT -5
A surprisingly tough call for me to make on this battle, having spent considerable time in Melbourne and listened to considerable discussions about Raleigh and the vagaries of the climate there. Normally I vote on battles by colour of the Wikibox, ie blue is a no no....
Melbourne generally pisses me off climatically....I've sat there at the MCG watching cricket in 41c heat in summer and footy at VFL Park Waverley in a 10c howling southerly in winter. And watched the footy in April in 30c and cricket at the G in 16c in Dec ! Its as bi-polar ( pun intended ) as you can get. Yes, it is in a foehn hole somewhat, but watching a 'coldie' march across the State on a low/mid 40c's day and the temp plummeting 20c or more in 30mins is something to see and experience ! Melbourne can and does get some cracking squalls and storms and the variability keeps the interest up climatically.
The stability months are generally June and July, although some years see a bit of stability in the summer as well. Ie 2022 by all accounts.
On purely parochial terms I should give Melbourne the tick here....but I've swallowed a lifetime of anti Melbourne climate propaganda, having been told its a COAP ( of a place ) since I was a little kid...lol !
So Raleigh it is ( I expect a good thrashing by Aussie members over this call )
Oh and BTW, no way is Raleigh subfuckentropical.... ( thats so I can cop a flogging from US members too, hate ya's to miss out on a good verbal belting ! )
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Post by Beercules on Mar 5, 2022 18:47:39 GMT -5
A surprisingly tough call for me to make on this battle, having spent considerable time in Melbourne and listened to considerable discussions about Raleigh and the vagaries of the climate there. Normally I vote on battles by colour of the Wikibox, ie blue is a no no.... Melbourne generally pisses me off climatically....I've sat there at the MCG watching cricket in 41c heat in summer and footy at VFL Park Waverley in a 10c howling southerly in winter. And watched the footy in April in 30c and cricket at the G in 16c in Dec ! Its as bi-polar ( pun intended ) as you can get. Yes, it is in a foehn hole somewhat, but watching a 'coldie' march across the State on a low/mid 40c's day and the temp plummeting 20c or more in 30mins is something to see and experience ! Melbourne can and does get some cracking squalls and storms and the variability keeps the interest up climatically. The stability months are generally June and July, although some years see a bit of stability in the summer as well. Ie 2022 by all accounts. On purely parochial terms I should give Melbourne the tick here....but I've swallowed a lifetime of anti Melbourne climate propaganda, having been told its a COAP ( of a place ) since I was a little kid...lol ! So Raleigh it is ( I expect a good thrashing by Aussie members over this call )Oh and BTW, no way is Raleigh subfuckentropical.... ( thats so I can cop a flogging from US members too, hate ya's to miss out on a good verbal belting ! ) This Aussie supports your decision wholeheartedly. Oh yeah, and anyone that thinks Raleigh is subtropical, is a subcranial mongoloid. |
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Mar 5, 2022 23:56:38 GMT -5
Raleigh wins it for its superior, glorious shoulder seasons and having more winter/spring/fall rain. Melbourne has better, drier summers and nice winter stability, but that’s about all it has going for it. Also Beercules Raleigh is “subfuckentropical” IMO, but just about at the northern periphery of the zone. I consider a 5C or greater mean in the coldest month indicating subtropicality. |
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Post by Ethereal on Mar 6, 2022 1:56:52 GMT -5
Melbourne by a hair.
Raleigh, with it US sunshine hours, might be just slightly sunnier than Melb (perhaps at 2400 hrs). Also, its winters are pretty cold, like something found in SE Aus highland places (Cooma, Canberra), so not my thing.
Both aren't great climates either way...
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Post by Ethereal on Mar 6, 2022 1:58:09 GMT -5
Melbourne. Far more sensible and comfortable. However it must be noted that Melbourne Regional Office is in fact 1991–2015, NOT 1991–2020. I have edited the wikibox just now, so please repost it OP. Didn't expect that. I thought you'd like colder winters, knot.  |
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Post by greysrigging on Mar 6, 2022 2:15:55 GMT -5
Raleigh wins it for its superior, glorious shoulder seasons and having more winter/spring/fall rain. Melbourne has better, drier summers and nice winter stability, but that’s about all it has going for it. Also Beercules Raleigh is “subfuckentropical” IMO, but just about at the northern periphery of the zone. I consider a 5C or greater mean in the coldest month indicating subtropicality. Raleigh sure as shit is 'subtropical' 7 months of the year....its the other 5 that are 'iffy'. and in particular the three months that can have, frosts, icy rain and ffs snow ! Where on what planet does any configuration of the word 'tropical' have a description of snow, frost and ice ? And not just once in a generation like say Miami, but every friggen winter ? yeah, nah, sorry champ, its not the glorious 7 months of decent warmth and heat one looks at, after all, that is a given....its the 'W' word....Winter ! And by any reasonable standard 'subtropical' is at the bare minimum greater than 8c in the 3 coldest months ( imo should be 10c ) Here are some figures taken over the 5 coolest months for various locations ( AU and US ) from a previous thread on the subject. A quick look at the 5 coldest months for each location ( after all the subject is 'subtropicality', or in simple terms warmth ) Robbinsville - 5 coldest months means = 6.0c Goulburn - 5 coldest months means = 7.8c Raleigh - 5 coldest months means = 8.3c Nowra - 5 coldest months means = 13.8c Asheville - 5 coldest months means = 6.5c Braidwood - 5 coldest months means = 7.4c I will concede Nowra has a nominally subtropical climate, but can't see it for the other sites, no matter what happens in the 7 warmer months. Those 5 cooler/colder months don't cut it for 'subtropicality' in my view ( coming from a bloke who lives at 12.4*S, so might have a built in bias or 2..... ) As I've said previously, Aussies perhaps hold a a different perception of the term 'subtropical' Canberra - 5 coldest months means = 8.2c Armidale - 5 coldest months means = 8,2c Orange - 5 coldest months means = 6.9c Bathurst - 5 coldest months means = 7.9c Tamworth - 5 coldest months means = 11.5c Warwick - 5 coldest months means = 12.7c |
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Post by caspase8 on Mar 6, 2022 2:17:18 GMT -5
So Raleigh it is ( I expect a good thrashing by Aussie members over this call ) Nope. Not from me anyway. I also prefer Raleigh. Seems more exciting with more thunderstorms, higher rainfall, colder winters and some snow. I don't really like the excessive stability in summer, but I think it's a good trade off for more storm activity and better winters.
Melbourne is indeed a COAP climate wise. Not too bad but a bit boring. Pretty much the only upside is the summer temperature variability.
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Post by knot on Mar 6, 2022 3:31:39 GMT -5
Didn't expect that. I thought you'd like colder winters, knot.  I'd prefer not to have warm fronts and stupidly hot "winter" days thank you very much. |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Mar 6, 2022 4:19:15 GMT -5
Melbourne is much better in the winter, but Raleigh is a bit better overall
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Post by Ariete on Mar 6, 2022 5:41:33 GMT -5
Raleigh...
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Post by Strewthless on Mar 6, 2022 6:11:32 GMT -5
Failbourne it is.
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Post by chesternz on Mar 6, 2022 7:38:05 GMT -5
Releigh. More consistently warm, humid summers with much warmer nights. Probably a lot more storms, too. The only real negative is the colder winter lows, winter days aren't far apart.
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Post by jgtheone on Mar 6, 2022 7:46:24 GMT -5
I literally had to think about this for half the day.
I ended up going with Raleigh. Reason for this is that the winters are more variable and exciting, and even though the summers are humid, they're more consistent and there won't be a lack of heat.
Melbourne's hot dry summer spells are far superior, unfortunately they are too infrequent. Sunshine hours look the same so that wasn't a factor.
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Post by srfoskey on Mar 6, 2022 17:21:45 GMT -5
Raleigh for being more interesting overall, with better chances of snow.
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Post by tij on Mar 6, 2022 18:02:04 GMT -5
I like Melbourne's summer avgs better but the extended heatwaves + cool spells seem irritating to deal with (don't mind some hotter and cooler days, but not like Melbourne gets), and prefer Raleigh's winters overall for the chance of snow. Think I'll go with Raleigh as I can handle most summer days there (would prefer Melbourne over somewhere like Dallas which is just too hot for me tho and too prone to winter heatwaves).
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