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Post by Steelernation on Nov 8, 2022 18:41:54 GMT -5
Cheeseman subjected us to having to make a best tropical climate so now I’m making you make the best possible climate with an annual mean of <0 c. This still shitty climate is the best I could come up with:  Long, pleasant warm season with occasional thunderstorms; very rapid and dry shoulder seasons and short but miserable winters. Getting ~7.5 months of solid, mild weather is pretty good for such a cold mean.
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Post by Bear on Nov 10, 2022 2:19:24 GMT -5
Tropical and <0°C climates are too rigid. A mean of 10°C (+/- 1°C) would leave for a lot more playing room and imagination.
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Post by rozenn on Nov 10, 2022 6:42:22 GMT -5
^^ The goal is to come up with the best possible climate with a less-than-ideal annual mean for most people. At 10°C, you'd get in the range of a lot of dream climates.
No Weatherbox from me, but as I need some summer warmth, my climate would be very continental and unfortunately feature severe winters (something like 20°C July avg / -20°C January average).
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Post by antares on Nov 10, 2022 8:22:19 GMT -5
I think I need to get drunk to do this.
Can't be fucked doing this sober.
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Post by Bear on Nov 10, 2022 14:28:24 GMT -5
^^ The goal is to come up with the best possible climate with a less-than-ideal annual mean for most people. At 10°C, you'd get in the range of a lot of dream climates. No Weatherbox from me, but as I need some summer warmth, my climate would be very continental and unfortunately feature severe winters (something like 20°C July avg / -20°C January average). 0° is pretty extreme. |
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Post by St. Middleway on Nov 10, 2022 14:45:26 GMT -5
Let it be said I fucking hate cold, and fucking hate cold rain, so my climate would have to be as dry and sunny as possible if it's going to be this cold. The winters can't be too cold, so the summer nights will have to be fucking cold, as long as it's super sunny by day warming up fast. There would be hardly any rain. Any rain would come from thunderstorms that somehow form during summer days. It was hard to come up with this, even drunk. So this is what I got: *NOTE yeah it's not quite down to 0, so sue me. It's the best I could do after messing with the numbers for hours.  |
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Post by rozenn on Nov 10, 2022 17:08:50 GMT -5
^^ The goal is to come up with the best possible climate with a less-than-ideal annual mean for most people. At 10°C, you'd get in the range of a lot of dream climates. No Weatherbox from me, but as I need some summer warmth, my climate would be very continental and unfortunately feature severe winters (something like 20°C July avg / -20°C January average). 0° is pretty extreme. Yeah, that's what makes this challenging! |
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Post by Metsfan257 on Nov 10, 2022 17:44:57 GMT -5
Cheeseman subjected us to having to make a best tropical climate so now I’m making you make the best possible climate with an annual mean of <0 c. This still shitty climate is the best I could come up with:  Winter is as non frigid as I could make it with still getting some warmth and features frequent heavy snow. The warm season is relatively long, dry and sunny so while never really warm, you still get a good stretch of pleasant weather. The warm season precipitation is all thunderstorms but with the cool temps and extended winter, it’s much drier than in my dream climate. Highest temp in a year would be maybe 80-82 f, lowest maybe low -20s f Can I negotiate and we settle on a mean of less than 5c?
Climates with means below freezing are not liveable, while tropical ones mostly are. Thus, tropical climates allow for much more flexibility than these freezing shitholes.
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Post by Steelernation on Nov 10, 2022 18:06:36 GMT -5
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Post by Steelernation on Nov 10, 2022 18:07:56 GMT -5
Can I negotiate and we settle on a mean of less than 5c?
Climates with means below freezing are not liveable, while tropical ones mostly are. Thus, tropical climates allow for much more flexibility than these freezing shitholes.
No that defeats the purpose |
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Post by Metsfan257 on Nov 10, 2022 18:11:13 GMT -5
Can I negotiate and we settle on a mean of less than 5c?
Climates with means below freezing are not liveable, while tropical ones mostly are. Thus, tropical climates allow for much more flexibility than these freezing shitholes.
No that defeats the purpose No, my point is that tropical climates are far less extreme than freezing shitholes. Global average temperature is about 60F. Thus essentially all climates that are warmer than that, even Mecca, are closer in annual mean to the average climate, than they are to freezing shitholes. |
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Post by antares on Nov 10, 2022 19:39:45 GMT -5
fuck this is going to be so fun tomorrow night drunk as fuck, oh my fuck Beercules you should do it too niggar |
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Post by Steelernation on Nov 10, 2022 20:14:19 GMT -5
No, my point is that tropical climates are far less extreme than freezing shitholes. Global average temperature is about 60F. Thus essentially all climates that are warmer than that, even Mecca, are closer in annual mean to the average climate, than they are to freezing shitholes. Yeah but the gradient is sharper for increasing temps. If you refuse to come up with a climate that’s 0, I’ll allow you to do 5 c and it must be koeppen subarctic. |
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Post by Steelernation on Nov 10, 2022 20:17:08 GMT -5
Also this is better: 2 brutal cold months but 5 legit warm months + 2 still mild months. February and especially March are so much warmer than winter they would feel warm so it’s just November-January that’s awful. |
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Post by Metsfan257 on Nov 10, 2022 21:36:48 GMT -5
No, my point is that tropical climates are far less extreme than freezing shitholes. Global average temperature is about 60F. Thus essentially all climates that are warmer than that, even Mecca, are closer in annual mean to the average climate, than they are to freezing shitholes. Yeah but the gradient is sharper for increasing temps. If you refuse to come up with a climate that’s 0, I’ll allow you to do 5 c and it must be koeppen subarctic. Challenge accepted  but you're gonna hate this climate and it's still the best I could do with these parameters.
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Post by fairweatherfan on Nov 10, 2022 21:39:28 GMT -5
Yeah but the gradient is sharper for increasing temps. If you refuse to come up with a climate that’s 0, I’ll allow you to do 5 c and it must be koeppen subarctic. Challenge accepted but you're gonna hate this climate and it's still the best I could do with these parameters.
That’s not possible |
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Post by Metsfan257 on Nov 10, 2022 21:41:00 GMT -5
Challenge accepted but you're gonna hate this climate and it's still the best I could do with these parameters.
That’s not possible Oh shit you're right. You can subtract 5F to November's record low, and 2F to February's. I don't feel like redoing the climobox. |
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Post by Cheeseman on Nov 11, 2022 8:11:31 GMT -5
I threw this together quickly; no idea how realistic those snow ratios are.  Still a terrible climate, but my thought was: if it can't be warm on average in summer, at least have there be some fluke hot days to make up for it. I tried to maximize weather interest and make winter reliably cold, as much as possible without turning the climate completely suicidal. |
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Post by caspase8 on Nov 13, 2022 5:18:37 GMT -5
Very shitty but I guess it'll have to do. I tried to maximise the number of months with weather I would actually enjoy (Oct-Apr in this case) but at the expense of a frigid May-Sep. I made winter drier than I would have otherwise liked so that snow doesn't build up to absurd levels.
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Post by jgtheone on Nov 13, 2022 7:13:05 GMT -5
Made this ass climate. Decided to go down the arctic winter route, so that I could enjoy the summer period. Also tried to put a bit of realism into the climate, i.e. making sure that shoulder seasons were realistic enough with the record lows, for example.  |
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but you're gonna hate this climate 
