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Post by omegaraptor on Aug 12, 2020 22:45:04 GMT -5
Sunshine records at Bellingham, Everett, Tacoma, Wenatchee, Ellensburg, Yakima, Tri-Cities, The Dalles, Hood River, La Grande, Baker City, Aberdeen, Astoria, Tillamook, Lincoln City, Newport, Florence, Coos Bay, Brookings, Crescent City, Salem, Eugene, Madras, Bend, Burns, Roseburg, Grants Pass, Medford, Klamath Falls, Lakeview, Alturas, Yreka, Weaverville, Susanville, and Mount Shasta.
Fuckaaaan.
(But seriously, the PNW in general needs more places with sunshine records.)
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Post by Ethereal on Aug 18, 2020 3:13:50 GMT -5
A sunshine hours station somewhere deep in western Sydney, say in Badgerys Creek (where Sydney's second airport is being constructed at).
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Post by Crunch41 on Aug 18, 2020 9:19:33 GMT -5
(But seriously, the USA in general needs more places with sunshine records.) I changed a word. I want to see sun hours like the rest of the world. A full UHI station in Milwaukee. Downtown or near Lake Michigan. Here are two possible spots (Cathedral Square Park and Veterans Park). I just want to know if it's warmer than the airport even if it's not official. How warm will the nights be? Chicago has a station on Northerly Island that is a similar idea. It records much higher lows than the official airport station west of the city. Location on google maps "Street" view of the station. July and August average in Northerly Island (2006-2019) 82.0/68.4 and 80.9/68.5 July and August average in O'Hare Airport (2006-2019) 84.4/65.7 and 82.6/64.6
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Post by srfoskey on Aug 19, 2020 15:26:37 GMT -5
This is kind of broad, but I'd like to see more mountaintop and beachfront stations. Also, this doesn't really count, but I wish we had a denser network of atmospheric soundings, both temporally and spatially. Some specific ones might be Bald Head Island and Emerald Isle, NC.
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Post by Babu on Dec 5, 2020 17:08:36 GMT -5
It'd be really interesting if they'd set up a weather station in the meteor crater near Flagstaff, Arizona. Probably some pretty insane diurnal ranges there and extreme lows.
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Post by Steelernation on Dec 5, 2020 17:35:20 GMT -5
Nederland, CO
There’s a faulty coop station with like 5 years of data that isn’t even on Nowdata.
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Post by Ethereal on Dec 6, 2020 3:12:13 GMT -5
Somewhere here, in the Jamison Valley of the Blue Mountains. I'm pretty sure it's much hotter there than the elevated parts (such as Katoomba at 1,000m with its mild summers).
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Post by Crunch41 on Dec 7, 2020 12:18:19 GMT -5
Nederland, CO There’s a faulty coop station with like 5 years of data that isn’t even on Nowdata. This is the station that was around long enough to get averages, USC00055878, NEDERLAND 2 NNE. The Wikipedia data matches this. wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?co5878The only other official station with temperatures was NEDERLAND 5 NNW, which only operated for a few months in 1997 and was 1500' higher elevation.
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Post by segfault1361 on Dec 22, 2020 12:40:06 GMT -5
Right in the middle of the Atlantic at 42N where it's equidistant between Halifax and Lisbon. Would be interesting to see the effect of the ocean has on the seasonal lag and the change in sun/rain patterns due to the Azores High in the summer/early fall, and how much it differs from Toronto despite having a similar latitude. Probably would be an Oceanic climate not far from my dream climate
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Post by Babu on Dec 24, 2020 18:03:29 GMT -5
Europe's largest alvar is located on the southern half of Öland island. I think that area could have a really interesting microclimate. Öland already has surprisingly warm summers for being such a slim island, with even the northernmost tip of the island still averaging 22.5'C highs for 2002-2018. A station in the dead center of the island with 8 kilometers to the nearest watermass, in the middle of the alvar, could potentially have some pretty impressive summer temperatures. What's so special about this alvar then? Well, as you can clearly see on the map, the alvar is much darker than normal agricultural fields and grassland. This is because the island is only 10000 years old, and so that entire brown patch only has about 2cm of soil (soil hasn't really had time to form properly on the limestone bedrock). This means that the soil is neither capable of retaining much water, nor supporting trees with roots, which means that it's basically a 5X40km semi-arid steppe. The fact that this is one of the driest places in terms of evotranspiration doesn't help either, with 2100h of sun, a 8.5'C annual mean (at least for the last 15 years), and only 400-450mm of precipitation annually. And what's special about that? Well, the dark and often bone-dry ground can get heated up really quickly and effectively by the sun. Here are some images of what this place looks like, at least during droughts (which are pretty frequent in the high sun year) The only problem would be that there would still be some seasonal lag, I'd assume with sea breezes still getting through in spring. However, I would still think a station here would be able to get at the very least as warm springs as Kalmar Airport, maybe 11 or 12'C highs in April and 16-17'C highs in May. But honestly I think June, July, August and September could be something like 20.5/23.3/22.9/18.7 for 1991-2020.
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Post by greysrigging on Dec 25, 2020 20:17:31 GMT -5
Around Lake Eyre in SA and any low elevation valley or area inland from Roebourne in the Pilbara. Perhaps like this disused site in the Harding River Valley about 30klm inland from Roebourne ? This was in use for a few years in the 1980's during the construction of Harding Dam. As an aside I asked Dr. Blair Trewin ( the BOM's records and extremes Guru, as well as one of the architects of ACORN-SAT 1 and 2 ) to look for the data from this site. He found the rainfall records but not the temp data.....appears it was not an official BOM site, but was installed by the State Govt and the construction company for the duration of the project building the Dam. I worked in and around Roebourne a few years ago, in fact I experienced the 49.4c day in Dec 2011, the site record. Extremes in Roebourne are subject to the timing of the sea breezes (as are the other Pilbara coastal hot spots such as Mardie and Onslow ), so a site 30klm inland and in a valley at low altitude might record some 'interesting extremes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2020 8:29:04 GMT -5
Met Office would do well just to reopen weather stations that used to exist but are now shut down. These include: Camden Square Greenwich Park London Weather Centre Olympic Park Adding stations in: Virginia Water Leicester Square Finsbury Circus
There is actually a weather station in Bushy Park in Teddington, which is usually comparable to Heathrow or Kew. It hasn't been around long enough to have averages yet though.
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Post by Babu on Jan 5, 2021 7:58:30 GMT -5
It'd be interesting to see a proper UHI station in Copenhagen, similar to the ones in Stockholm and Oslo.
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Post by jetshnl on Jan 5, 2021 23:50:11 GMT -5
Sunshine records at Bellingham, Everett, Tacoma, Wenatchee, Ellensburg, Yakima, Tri-Cities, The Dalles, Hood River, La Grande, Baker City, Aberdeen, Astoria, Tillamook, Lincoln City, Newport, Florence, Coos Bay, Brookings, Crescent City, Salem, Eugene, Madras, Bend, Burns, Roseburg, Grants Pass, Medford, Klamath Falls, Lakeview, Alturas, Yreka, Weaverville, Susanville, and Mount Shasta. Fuckaaaan. (But seriously, the PNW in general needs more places with sunshine records.) Likewise for Canada too.
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Post by Marcelo on Jan 8, 2021 10:53:40 GMT -5
I could come up with a never-ending list of places of my country, including middle-sized towns without official stations, very urbanized spots, small towns and villages in faraway locations, high altitude valleys, depressions, frost hollows, glaciers, mountain tops…
However, it would be interesting to see what happens inside the volcanic calderas of the Galapagos Islands, which are tropical islands with various oddities on their own due to the influence of the Humboldt current.
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Post by Babu on Jan 11, 2021 10:46:01 GMT -5
I wish Sweden could have as many weather stations as Norway. Oslo for example has like 10 different active temperature stations below 150m ASL. Trondheim has like 5, and Drammen has 5 as well. Stockholm has like 2 or 3 depending on what you count as Stockholm, and Gothenburg has one single station, along with Malmö.
I took a look at the different stations in Norwegian towns, and they can vary by an insane margin. There's a station in Oslo called Sofienberg at 37m ASL that averaged a mean of 9.9'C in 2020. Hovin at 100m managed 8.9'C, Oslo Blindern at the Uni (87m ASL) averaged 8.7'C. Ljabruveien at 92m ASL managed a 7.7'C, Lambertseter not far away, at 135m, managed 8.0'C. Besserud at 177m still managed 8.4'C, just to mention a few. Same goes for Trondheim and Drammen where stations, relatively close to eachother, can vary by 2'C despite being only 30-80m apart in altitude. Obviously, most of Norway is much more littered with microclimates than Sweden is, so the fact that they have more stations makes sense, but the difference is pretty ridiculous at times. Also, Norway places stations right the smack dab middle of almost all cities, whereas Sweden only does that with Stockholm, Uppsala and Gothenburg (and previously Lund). I just wish that Sweden could have more variation in station placement in at least the top 10 largest cities.
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Post by FrozenI69 on Jan 11, 2021 11:40:27 GMT -5
I wish that NW New Jersey & NE Pennsylvania had NWS Scranton or NWS Allentown as their core weather station. Hunterdon, Warren, and Sussex counties has a climate that is very different from NWS Upton or NWS mount holly.
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Post by greysrigging on Jan 13, 2021 4:52:59 GMT -5
I'd like to see stats/data from Grasberg Mine ( formerly Freeport, Irian Jaya ). I've known a few blokes from Australia working here ( including a first cousin of mine.... he was a mad keen fisherman who could catch trout stocked in the dams at 11,000' and barramundi in the lowlands on the same day !. His office was at 8,000', but the main open cut pit was at 11,000'..... cold and wet with some snowfalls.) snowbrains.com/2nd-highest-ski-resort-on-earth-indonesia/
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Post by Babu on Jan 13, 2021 10:08:38 GMT -5
The lack of stations in one of the arguably most interesting parts of Sweden topographically, the High Coast, is completely ridiculous. Almost all stations are located at altitudes of 150-250m ASL even though there's a lot of populated area at 30-70m ASL. Between Umeå and Sundsvall, there are three low altitudes stations that are on the edges of peninsulas or islands, there's one low altitude station in Härnösand that is actually representative of somewhere that isn't the immediate coastal shore, and then there's the Sundsvall/Härnösand airport station in a frost hollow that's 0.8'C colder annually than the Härnösand station 15 miles away at the same distance from the sea. It's actually preposterous that two of the biggest towns north of Uppsala, Örnsköldsvik and Sundsvall, don't have any representative stations. Örnsköldsvik has one at their airport at 130m ASL, and Sundsvall's airport station is 30km north of the city horribly cold. There was a station for a brief moment in one of the rural surburbs of Sundsvall and that station was like 1.5'C milder than the airport station while active. I marked all stations below 100m in red. There's one station at 99m marked in orange. I then marked examples of reasonable station placements in black, excluding better stations with or without UHI in Umeå. Obviously there doesn't have to be a station at every one of those black spots. But at least a couple would be nice?? And it's absolutely ridiculous how there are absolutely no stations at all representing the inland High Coast that aren't way higher altitude than most of the population in the area. There's one station in Forse far up the Ångerman river that recorded 22.6'C average highs for July 2002-2018 at 63'N despite being at 125m ASL. I marked it in red on this map below. Makes me so frustrated that they'd decide to put their only station in that entire long fjord/fjard and river valley at 125m ASL when there's so much area nearby at 30-60m ASL, and like >90% of the people living in the area live at half the altitude. It's obviously an area with very interesting climates, so why did they have to fuck it up with a moderate altitude station instead of on any of the black-marked spots?
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Post by Crunch41 on Jul 17, 2022 22:08:42 GMT -5
Qinngua Valley, Greenland. "The only natural forest in Greenland." Could be one of the few places with a 10C mean on the island since trees can grow. The warmest summers I know of in Greenland is at Kangerlussuaq (10.7 with 1991-2020 normals) but it's very cold in winter.
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