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Post by fairweatherfan on Aug 19, 2024 21:38:47 GMT -5
We had a thread comparing Avlonas vs Avalon , how about one comparing Avalon versus Avalon? Do you prefer the mild but volatile climate of the coast of southern Victoria, or the milder and drier climate of Catalina Island off the coast of Southern California? Avalon, California
Avalon, Victoria
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Post by tommyFL on Aug 19, 2024 21:58:12 GMT -5
Victoria for being wetter and less boring
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Post by Beercules on Aug 19, 2024 22:14:36 GMT -5
One of the very rare occasions where the SE Australian one actually has more of what I want
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Aug 20, 2024 0:15:19 GMT -5
Victoria for more spring/fall rain and better temps all around.
Also I was just in Avalon, CA last week, and the data here and on the wiki page are pretty old, they're from a pier. The 1991-2020 normals are just under a degree warmer than the pier, but they are from the airport station which is 1,602 feet above sea level. That being said, the airport is warmer during spring and summer because inversions are common in this area, not really due to contribution from global warming. The airport is sometimes cooler in winter obviously due to elevation, sometimes warmer due to the (less common) inversions. Somehow rainfall is the same despite the elevation of the airport, perhaps because the 1991-2020 period was drier in general in SoCal than the 1909-1988 one. I'd like to see more recent normals at sea level too, but there is no official station.
Here's the data for the airport station. I know saying SoCal has microclimates is clichรฉ, but this post of mine does not even scratch the surface of how diverse and weird Santa Catalina Island's microclimates are.
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Post by Ethereal on Aug 20, 2024 0:59:26 GMT -5
Sorry, Melbourne can never do. These summers look alright on paper but they're deceiving - 33C high one day followed by a 17C day, then the odd 44C day which is also followed by a 18C day. At least the CA one is more stable in winter, despite its crummers. Also, California's one warmer winters will do for me, being an avid gardener (subtropical plants may also grow there). The CA one's winter record highs are a telltale sign that it gets pleasantly warm winter days from time to time due to Santa Ana winds (so unlike the long cool winters of Melb which barely record temps above 23C). I can see the Melb one getting a number of frosty mornings to. So no thanks!
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Post by greysrigging on Aug 20, 2024 1:07:01 GMT -5
Avalon, VIC running -0.9c for mins and +1.7c for max temps so far this August....
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Post by Benfxmth on Aug 20, 2024 6:08:56 GMT -5
Victorian one gets more of what I want for this one
EDIT - just saw Mets' post above, there's one other station in the island that is Santa Catalina AP, that would get my pick, albeit barely so. Shame there's no modern data for the pier site though, it likely has seen warming since 1909-1988. Bear in mind that Avalon VIC is for 1995-present, though I doubt that warming would be significant enough to pick the pier site over Avalon VIC.
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Post by cawfeefan on Aug 20, 2024 6:19:19 GMT -5
Victoria for being more interesting
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Post by AJ1013 on Aug 20, 2024 6:30:03 GMT -5
Victoria. More interesting
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Post by CRISPR on Aug 20, 2024 15:18:08 GMT -5
Victoria, but both are passable
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Post by Steelernation on Aug 20, 2024 17:38:06 GMT -5
Victoria for being more information
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Post by fairweatherfan on Aug 20, 2024 18:07:15 GMT -5
Victoria, Avalon California is not warm enough to be so consistent and stable
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Post by ๐๐ฟMรถrรถn๐๐ฟ on Aug 20, 2024 20:56:57 GMT -5
VIC for not bone dry crummers
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Post by Cadeau on Aug 25, 2024 6:33:24 GMT -5
The Californian one.
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