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Post by Lommaren on Nov 17, 2017 17:53:18 GMT -5
 For a four-season climate, it doesn't get better than this for me. Tremendous, warm summers, with calm nights. Light frosts in winter should help against allergies. Also, comfy daytime highs and far less rainy and damp than London and Seattle during that season! A-  |
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Post by Beercules on Nov 17, 2017 17:57:34 GMT -5
D. Cold nights year round, cloudy, insufficient crummers. But in NZ you could do a lot worse, e.g. subarctic climates like Dunedin.
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Post by Lommaren on Nov 17, 2017 18:07:16 GMT -5
D. Cold nights year round, cloudy, insufficient crummers. But in NZ you could do a lot worse, e.g. subarctic climates like Dunedin. I'd prefer summer nights 3°C warmer. Having said that, for me, seeing a four-season climate that mild during the days is refreshing like crazy coming from Sweden  |
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Post by knot on Nov 17, 2017 18:13:10 GMT -5
C. A much drier Jindabyne (which is a B climate). The precipitation days are a major problem.
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Post by Steelernation on Nov 17, 2017 21:41:40 GMT -5
C/C+. A bit boring but quite pleasant.
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Post by Babu on Nov 18, 2017 14:17:50 GMT -5
C for me - I don't like the tendency of the sun to feel burning and glaring much of the time, it's about the worst I've experienced. It also has a bit of a Melbourne quality with regards to temperature drops (with more emphasis on the cold end of the change). I can remember an early january day when I was working, when the temperature dropped to 4C at around 11:00 am, with a strong wind and sleet, but also remember getting to work around 5:30am, and it was already 26C. Alexandra is quite a bit cloudier than surrounding areas, with the neighbouring town around 350 hours sunnier. Some photos from around that area. The first seems reasonably common during winter -a freezing fog, but sun and totally clear skies just a short drive away. I'm pretty sure the sun is stronger in Nelson or at least just as strong... |
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Post by Babu on Nov 18, 2017 14:48:36 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the sun is stronger in Nelson or at least just as strong... In theory it should be, but it feels worse there, than here. I think we should keep out personal anecdotes that contradict statistics and science. |
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Post by Lommaren on Nov 18, 2017 14:59:53 GMT -5
I think we should keep out personal anecdotes that contradict statistics and science. Well, the sun does feel stronger in Örebro than here during summer because the air is still and there's no sea breeze, doesn't mean the UV is as high. Deception from mother nature  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 19:11:34 GMT -5
It's a D.
Cold summer nights, and too much frost in winter, sunshine is poor, though at least not as bad as the UK's main climates.
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Post by knot on Nov 18, 2017 22:19:45 GMT -5
It's a D. Cold summer nights, and too much frost in winter, sunshine is poor, though at least not as bad as the UK's main climates. If Alexandra's nights are "cold", then I can't wait to hear what you'd think of Thredbo...  Also, 2005 hrs of annual sunshine is plenty! Much sunnier than Buxton's 1334 hrs, with far fewer precipitation days. |
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Post by Babu on Nov 19, 2017 0:00:56 GMT -5
I think we should keep out personal anecdotes that contradict statistics and science. Does it contradict science though? - does science specifically say that sun angle cancels out air temperature for thermal sensation? It's not so much a personal anecdote, as a general consensus, at least amongst my pears (pun) of the fruit picking fraternity What do you mean "cancel out air temperature for thermal sensation"? Higher sun angles will be stronger, though a 50° angle can definitely make you warmer than a 90° one since angle of attack onto your lateral body will by far outweigh the slightly weaker sun. However, any difference in sun strength and sensation between 45'S and 41'S will be too minute to distinguish. Mouteka is probably much windier. When the air is still, the sun makes tremendously more difference than when there's a breeze. Perhaps what you noticed wasn't the sun being stronger, but the wind being weaker. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 17:15:43 GMT -5
It's a D. Cold summer nights, and too much frost in winter, sunshine is poor, though at least not as bad as the UK's main climates. If Alexandra's nights are "cold", then I can't wait to hear what you'd think of Thredbo... Also, 2005 hrs of annual sunshine is plenty! Much sunnier than Buxton's 1334 hrs, with far fewer precipitation days. I'll just come out and say, I'm a subtropical/tropical climate "fan". Buxton's climate is pure garbage, living here most of the year is like being forced to eat your own puke every day  So, my ideal climate would have a mean annual temp of 20-25°C and 3000 hours of sun. Sun is a rare treat in Buxton, practically non existent, but I still consider anything less than 2200 hours kinda low. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 20:15:37 GMT -5
It's a D. Cold summer nights, and too much frost in winter, sunshine is poor, though at least not as bad as the UK's main climates. I think RWood mentioned Alexandra's sunshine recorder as having obstruction issues -the nearest big towns have sunshine at around 58% of possible sunshine, and Alexandra has a bigger diurnal range than those towns. Not going to elevate it above a D. I would need a summer with at least 17/27 averages in the warmest month with those winters to be looking at a C-. |
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Post by rwood2 on Nov 20, 2017 0:40:25 GMT -5
Site has sun recorder obstruction issues, confirmed by much higher means in the more distant past. New site at airport may soon get a recorder for a fairer reading.
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Post by Ethereal on Nov 20, 2017 2:08:04 GMT -5
C-/D+
Nights too cool. Winters too dark. But it's okay.
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Post by longaotian on Nov 20, 2017 2:37:16 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the sun is stronger in Nelson or at least just as strong... In theory it should be, but it feels worse there, than here. Tbh, when I was in Central Otago the sun felt quite pleasant and the humidity was nice and low. When I was in Motueka however, it was quite Humid and the sun was really, really strong...more like Auckland. |
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Post by longaotian on Nov 20, 2017 2:53:02 GMT -5
C-. Seeing as Rwood says the sunshine is off it becomes a C- even though there are sunnier climates relatviely close. Also, I think the winter would be pretty boring considering how dry it is.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 12:54:39 GMT -5
Not going to elevate it above a D. I would need a summer with at least 17/27 averages in the warmest month with those winters to be looking at a C-. Ophir is a small town not far from Alexandra, and at 305 metres, is the same altitude at Buxton. It has very few summer months that don't record a minimum below freezing, with -4.7C the coldest in the last 5 years -how does that compare to Buxton for summer frost? We basically never have air frosts in summer here, from June - August. The record low was just below 0°C in June many decades ago. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 13:01:11 GMT -5
Dewpoints never get low enough, and there is a lot of cloud cover. Also a lack of mountains that might block humid air from the ocean. Even in cold clear airmasses in summer it doesn't really get near 0°C.
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Post by deneb78 on Nov 20, 2017 17:56:43 GMT -5
C+ mediocre... a bit too chilly in the winter. Certainly much better climates elsewhere in NZ.
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So, my ideal climate would have a mean annual temp of 20-25°C and 3000 hours of sun. Sun is a rare treat in Buxton, practically non existent, but I still consider anything less than 2200 hours kinda low.
