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Post by Lommaren on Nov 30, 2017 17:52:09 GMT -5
I find it astonishing that you can have such averages with such a low sun angle alex992  I mean we have almost 55° at midsummer and even so, as soon as it drops below 40° we're completely fucked, in spite of an average sun angle across the 24 hours much higher than you'll have right now... That Atlantic warmth is insane. |
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Post by alex992 on Nov 30, 2017 17:58:52 GMT -5
Probably has to do with the fact that you probably need a much weaker sun to sufficiently cool us off after having 60+ degree sun angles for nearly seven months. At your peak, the sun angles beforehand have been a lot weaker, so air temperatures themselves are colder. To give you an idea, we're above your 55 degree peak for 7.5 months (late February until mid October).
Plus, having piss warm ocean water surrounding you during autumn probably doesn't help.
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Post by boombo on Nov 30, 2017 18:03:29 GMT -5
Do people still sunbathe when the sun's relatively weak but it's still warm/hot?
I love those (rare) 25C+ days we get after about 20th August when there's no sharpness to the sun but still a really pleasant warmth in the air, though I certainly wouldn't want that to be my winter and have to go through month after month of torrid heat every year just to get to that pleasant kind of weather.
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Post by alex992 on Nov 30, 2017 18:14:06 GMT -5
Do people still sunbathe when the sun's relatively weak but it's still warm/hot? I love those (rare) 25C+ days we get after about 20th August when there's no sharpness to the sun but still a really pleasant warmth in the air, though I certainly wouldn't want that to be my winter and have to go through month after month of torrid heat every year just to get to that pleasant kind of weather. Yes, I definitely see people sunbathing here still from November - February (weak sun season). Although to be honest, the UV never drops below 4 here, so you can still tan in December. I remember in 2014 going for a run in mid-December from like 12-1 PM and I got sunburnt quite a bit lol. |
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Post by Hiromant on Dec 1, 2017 2:19:19 GMT -5
8,9° today. In most places it passes just above the trees.
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Post by bizzy on Dec 1, 2017 13:53:47 GMT -5
Dec 1st - 27.5°
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Post by theeastfrisian on Dec 2, 2017 8:21:43 GMT -5
The sun angle right now here in Bremerhaven is 10°
Our highest sun angle at noon (12:14) was 14.5°. We are still losing one and a half degree until winter solstice.
On overcast and foggy days like today, you sometimes have to turn on the light as early as 2 PM.
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Post by Lommaren on Dec 2, 2017 12:59:15 GMT -5
Probably has to do with the fact that you probably need a much weaker sun to sufficiently cool us off after having 60+ degree sun angles for nearly seven months. At your peak, the sun angles beforehand have been a lot weaker, so air temperatures themselves are colder. To give you an idea, we're above your 55 degree peak for 7.5 months (late February until mid October). Plus, having piss warm ocean water surrounding you during autumn probably doesn't help.Yup, I imagine so. Still surprising to me how low the sun angle actually gets in Miami at around Christmas and how unseasonal the climate still gets when the angles range in such high amounts, it's like it's the Floridian Eureka or something. I tell people here it's a greater risk of sunburn here on Midsummer than in the Caribbean at Christmas and people just can't believe it |
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Post by AJ1013 on Dec 2, 2017 15:24:13 GMT -5
Probably has to do with the fact that you probably need a much weaker sun to sufficiently cool us off after having 60+ degree sun angles for nearly seven months. At your peak, the sun angles beforehand have been a lot weaker, so air temperatures themselves are colder. To give you an idea, we're above your 55 degree peak for 7.5 months (late February until mid October). Plus, having piss warm ocean water surrounding you during autumn probably doesn't help.Yup, I imagine so. Still surprising to me how low the sun angle actually gets in Miami at around Christmas and how unseasonal the climate still gets when the angles range in such high amounts, it's like it's the Floridian Eureka or something. I tell people here it's a greater risk of sunburn here on Midsummer than in the Caribbean at Christmas and people just can't believe it December can be a nightmare when it's above average. Nothing quite like a 5:25 p.m sunset with 80F highs and 68F lows |
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Post by alex992 on Dec 2, 2017 16:43:25 GMT -5
I don't get how it's surprising that we can get lower sun angles here, we aren't the tropics after all (albeit very close). Also, I wouldn't necessarily call 35-42 degree sun angles "low" (the range of Florida), IMO low sun angles are below 30 degrees, which occurs at winter solstice at 36 N and up.
Also not that surprising that we can deviate from average here, considering we're attached to a huge continent with flat land way up into the Arctic. Cold air can make uninhibited down here.
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Post by Lommaren on Dec 3, 2017 6:32:34 GMT -5
I don't get how it's surprising that we can get lower sun angles here, we aren't the tropics after all (albeit very close). Also, I wouldn't necessarily call 35-42 degree sun angles "low" (the range of Florida), IMO low sun angles are below 30 degrees, which occurs at winter solstice at 36 N and up. Also not that surprising that we can deviate from average here, considering we're attached to a huge continent with flat land way up into the Arctic. Cold air can make uninhibited down here. When I meant unseasonal I didn't mean your cold snaps, I meant that its so narrow between summer and winter normals for your latitude, which normally has greater heat and cold potential  Anyway, 9.2° peak angle here today. Madness. Yet this is the southernmost place I've lived  |
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Post by alex992 on Dec 3, 2017 15:44:51 GMT -5
Peak sun angle today (December 3rd) was 41.7 degrees. That means the sun is directly overhead at 22.2 S and on the horizon at 67.8 N.
Only 1.3 degrees to go until the solstice!
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Post by Lommaren on Dec 20, 2017 14:20:23 GMT -5
7.8° as peak angle today, as depressing as it gets. At that height it looks like lying up in the sky.
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Post by Hiromant on Dec 20, 2017 14:52:09 GMT -5
7,3° here. I think Baba is too depressed to take part in this thread, heh.
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Post by nei on Dec 20, 2017 14:58:26 GMT -5
sun angle on solstice
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Post by alex992 on Dec 20, 2017 17:47:31 GMT -5
They seem to have all the dividing lines too far north. For example, the 40 degree sun angle line is well north of the 27th parallel, which is already at a 39.5 degree sun angle.
Also, Chicago at 42 N is at a 24.5 degree sun angle during the solstice, yet is below the 25 degree line in this map.
Other than that, cool map! They should've done the scale with the degrees below the horizon as well to include the Arctic regions.
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Post by nei on Dec 20, 2017 17:58:02 GMT -5
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Post by Hiromant on Dec 21, 2017 2:19:09 GMT -5
Nice to see a map where the Canadian arctic isn't stretched out to gigantic proportions for once.
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Post by nei on Dec 21, 2017 13:58:30 GMT -5
American (lives in San Francisco from Philadelphia) comments on the exotic bleakness of living up at 55°N. Edit: got the latitude wrong, it's at 60°N not 55°N
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Post by alex992 on Dec 21, 2017 14:04:20 GMT -5
Oh come on, that's not really that big of a deal lol. That guy seems to be making a bigger deal than it is.
I get that 55 N is quite dark in winter compared to places at 38-40 N but it's not like 55 N is such an extremely northern latitude either...
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I mean we have almost 55° at midsummer and even so, as soon as it drops below 40° we're completely fucked, in spite of an average sun angle across the 24 hours much higher than you'll have right now...
