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Post by Babu on Dec 14, 2017 15:46:25 GMT -5
Haha, Buxton has made a serious counter. Umeå was leading 5-1, and now it's 6-10
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 15:49:14 GMT -5
I'm actually not surprised by the swing. I noticed that the early voters were mainly Swedes and cold lovers. Left a whole bunch of people remaining to vote who were likely to choose Buxton instead.
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Post by longaotian on Dec 14, 2017 16:37:14 GMT -5
Haha, Buxton has made a serious counter. Umeå was leading 5-1, and now it's 6-10 7-10 now  |
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Post by nei on Dec 14, 2017 19:49:41 GMT -5
Here's a graph I made of sun intensity in Watts / meters^2 / day. X-axis is month. Yes, peak sun angle is higher at 45°N than 60°N but days are longer at 60°N midsummer so the two factors almost cancel. This of course ignores low clouds, which are more common at high latitude. It says "current earth" because I went through a SpacieRudesky phase 5 years ago and made charts at different tilts of the earth's axis. I'll make a thread of those soon!  |
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Post by nei on Dec 16, 2017 20:51:42 GMT -5
I voted for Umeå because at least the winters would be interesting, and Baba's photos make it look like a winter wonderland. But after a week of cold, leaning towards Buxton. Would be more tolerable in the winter when not raining.
[In 2012, I would have voted for Buxton without hesitation, my preferences have become somewhat more cold tolerant even if my ideal hasn't changed much]
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 21:33:01 GMT -5
Haha it's not like it rains all the time in winter. Most rain is light or brief, maybe 2-3 days a month with annoying all day rain. So far this month has had several days with rain at some point but only two days where it's rained for much time of the day (yesterday and last wednesday). That's quite typical.
I like the balance of snow/rain here, I think months of snow would lose its novelty, but here we get a few weeks with snow cover each year which seems like enough. Of course I am not a cold lover though.
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Post by nei on Dec 16, 2017 21:37:17 GMT -5
are your cloudy skies usually a blank gray or do the clouds have shapes to the them? I find the latter much less grim
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 21:38:53 GMT -5
An even mix of both really. Sometimes its more dominated by thinner upper level clouds, or more interesting altocumulus. In winter there are a lot of boring grey stratus clouds, but in polar north westerly air masses there can be convective looking clouds.
Summers have much more interesting clouds in my opinion, lots more convective cloud shapes then.
Regarding how rainy people think buxton is I think one reason was because I posted a (self made) climate table which simply included all rain days including those with trace amounts. The 1mm cut off table has far fewer rain days many of which are barely noticeable.
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Post by Babu on Dec 18, 2017 2:34:39 GMT -5
Haha it's not like it rains all the time in winter. Most rain is light or brief, maybe 2-3 days a month with annoying all day rain. So far this month has had several days with rain at some point but only two days where it's rained for much time of the day (yesterday and last wednesday). That's quite typical. I like the balance of snow/rain here, I think months of snow would lose its novelty, but here we get a few weeks with snow cover each year which seems like enough. Of course I am not a cold lover though. I'm not fully sure but I think every month in Buxton from October-March have average precipitation totals that would break our records. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 2:45:55 GMT -5
And during that same period in Umea, it will regularly experience temperatures beneath Buxton's record low.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 8:25:00 GMT -5
Haha it's not like it rains all the time in winter. Most rain is light or brief, maybe 2-3 days a month with annoying all day rain. So far this month has had several days with rain at some point but only two days where it's rained for much time of the day (yesterday and last wednesday). That's quite typical. I like the balance of snow/rain here, I think months of snow would lose its novelty, but here we get a few weeks with snow cover each year which seems like enough. Of course I am not a cold lover though. I'm not fully sure but I think every month in Buxton from October-March have average precipitation totals that would break our records. And so would places like Sydney, New York, and dozens of other places. Well it's a beautiful spring like day here today. Many winter days here would be an above average April day in Umea. Having mild spring like to cold icy snowy winter weather here gives it more variety and interest IMO. |
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Post by irlinit on Sept 28, 2018 7:12:19 GMT -5
A climate battle that Buxton easily wins.
Both horrible climates but god Umea is awful. Worse than a normal Scandinavian climate as it has no summer and the drop off to winter in October is even worse than the main scandinavian climates. Polar for over half of the year and no shoulder seasons either. F
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Post by Babu on Sept 28, 2018 8:26:23 GMT -5
Switching my vote to Buxton but it's extremely close.
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Post by Hiromant on Sept 28, 2018 9:43:27 GMT -5
I'm always surprised at how many people will take endless monotonous depressing muck over anything below freezing.
Umea by a country mile. A proper four season climate. Buxton is suicide fuel.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Sept 28, 2018 9:55:14 GMT -5
Umeå is waaaaay better in every way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 10:27:05 GMT -5
Still would take Buxton any time , still gets plenty of decent cold and snow for weather lovers, plus more thunder in summer, without being a stank ass subpolar shit hole. Nothing monotonous about its winters at all... running the gammet from thunder snow, to mild pleasant days in double figures, blizzards, without having snow all the time however . It isn't constant low cloud, fog and drizzle that some people imagine. Sheffield can be considered a more boring climate...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 10:52:55 GMT -5
I'm always surprised at how many people will take endless monotonous depressing muck over anything below freezing. Umea by a country mile. A proper four season climate. Buxton is suicide fuel. Chicago is a proper 4 season climate. Umea has 7/8 months of icy winter, hardly anything in the way of shoulder seasons, and a short, weak summer. I'd take the monotonous muck over a climate that regularly freezes in September. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Sept 28, 2018 10:54:34 GMT -5
I'm always surprised at how many people will take endless monotonous depressing muck over anything below freezing. Umea by a country mile. A proper four season climate. Buxton is suicide fuel. 4 seasons? It has 7/8 months of icy winter, hardly anything in the way of shoulder seasons, and a short, weak summer. I'd take the monotonous muck over a climate that regularly freezes in September. Freezes in September is a bit of an exaggeration. You make it sound like it's an icy hell in September when it's actually a really nice month. At least Umeå gets warmer than Buxton...  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 10:59:17 GMT -5
4 seasons? It has 7/8 months of icy winter, hardly anything in the way of shoulder seasons, and a short, weak summer. I'd take the monotonous muck over a climate that regularly freezes in September. Freezes in September is a bit of an exaggeration. You make it sound like it's an icy hell in September when it's actually a really nice month. At least Umeå gets warmer than Buxton... Freezes towards the back end of September are not unusual in the slightest. It's narrowly warmer than Buxton for just 3 months. But let's face it, neither of these climates are going to win based off of their summers. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Sept 28, 2018 11:06:32 GMT -5
Sure freezing at night wouldn't be abnormal in September but until late October or early November there isn't a permanent snow cover. But yeah...not the best climates!!!  |
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