2018 NH Spring / SH Autumn Photo Thread

March and even February matter too lol. If only April mattered they'd have leaves already since April has been above average this year.

And May 20 is the average of a bunch of selected trees in a forest for having 2cm long leaves. Park trees are generally up to a week earlier than forests. @kronan

Because the buds keep growing during the winter. We're behind last year in terms of vegetation even though we've had a much warmer April so far.

Alder is I think one of the few of our trees which starts blooming in winter. Gothenburg's March isn't even warm enough to get grass growing.

Explain why Umeå gets flowers in March then. Obviously March matters for growing.

Stronger sun in Umeå than Turku, ayyyyyy.

Umeå might get one flower beside a heating wall during a March which is 4C warmer than average, once every 10 years. The remaining nine have snow on the ground on 31 March.

Probably. Or then the local botevs create so much BS which warms the atmosphere.


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That image is from SMHI which represent the start of the growing season (mean temp permanently over 5C and without hard freezes) as an average in southern Sweden. 9 to 13 April in recent years.

I calculated manually the similar starting day in Turku, and it came out as 20 April from 2001 to 2017.

So though southern Sweden has significantly warmer Februarys and Marches than southern Finland, it means jack shit, as it's still too cool to get anything growing.

We don't have early blooming flowers growing in the wild so of course the flowers in March are in garden beds. And last year there were lots of shoots that weren't next to walls. My point is just things obviously start growing waaay before the growing season begins. According to that picture, the average growing season in southern Sweden starts about 10 days earlier than in Turku, and Gothenburg's growing season definitely starts earlier than the average of southern Sweden. 

So tell me, Ariete. How exactly am I Boteving around when I say it's reasonable that Gothenburg gets its leaves two weeks before Turku? And me saying Umeå having flowers in March isn't me bragging or anything. It was simply a response to you saying March in Gothenburg, with means 4-5'C warmer than ours, is too cold for anything to grow when obviously things grow even in Umeå in March.


I've been to Gothenburg around the 20th of April where it looked like it was the 20th of May here, and I thought it was plausible that at least birches would be green by now in a normal year. But no, I obviously just have an agenda to make Sweden seem warmer than Finland. That's it.

Oh and nice pictures rozenn . Can't wait dor it to look like that up here!

It's rare to see spring flowers in Turku and Helsinki in March, and usually demands way above average temps, like last year. Even then they are in very low numbers. And Umeå is 100 times more subarctic than we are. Somebody has grown a crocus in Umeå and brought it outside to take the piss out of you. You know, cities do that a lot at these subarctic barren latitudes.

If there's right now on 22 April 50 cm snow on the ground how the fuck can you claim that you get flowers in March?

Good that you admit you having an agenda to make Southern Sweden seem warmer than it is. We have indeed noticed that.

First properly blue and summery rain clouds.