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Post by Ariete on Mar 16, 2019 9:34:48 GMT -5
Also, Ariete , do you find this better than anything in the Nordics? I'm a bit torn between this and the best ones in the Nordics in the same timeframe, there are excessive cold rain and winds in this one, although temperatures are generally more favourable both for snow cover and summer warmth. So, C- for all of them to me.
Based on temps, I would say yes, but almost 3 times more rainfall? No thanks.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 16, 2019 9:49:05 GMT -5
Based on temps, I would say yes, but almost 3 times more rainfall? No thanks.
Absolutely, I really wish -1/-9 in such a climate would equal 50 cm more snow annually than it does. On the other hand, the sun strength should make those summers feel quite a bit warmer than up here whenever the sun is out, it's on the same latitude as Genoa after all. It'd be a quite difficult climate battle for me when compared to the best ones around up here. Just a damn shame about all that rain. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 16, 2019 10:18:34 GMT -5
Lommaren, Halifax is good but still a B- for me due to the winter rain and occasional winter thaws. PEI gets those too but the effect is not as strong there. Summers look awesome in Halifax though! A tiny bit of lag going on there too with August barely cooler than July, and September warmer than June.
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Post by Ariete on Mar 16, 2019 10:45:29 GMT -5
Lommaren , Halifax is good but still a B- for me due to the winter rain and occasional winter thaws. PEI gets those too but the effect is not as strong there. Summers look awesome in Halifax though! A tiny bit of lag going on there too with August barely cooler than July, and September warmer than June.
May's mean is also only 0.6C warmer than October. Compare to Copenhagen where May is 2.7C warmer.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 16, 2019 10:50:18 GMT -5
May's mean is also only 0.6C warmer than October. Compare to Copenhagen where May is 2.7C warmer.
Yep, spring sticks out like a sore thumb. Still very amusing how a 27.2°C day happened during the 2012 North American March heat wave, the month in general saw a 6°C average high, so it was like a really random event. Amazingly enough, Nice has a March record of 26.1°C in spite of averaging 12°C warmer. Halifax also beats Nice's April, May and even September's record highs as well in spite of the mediterranean being really warm by then. The charm of sudden changes of wind direction. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 16, 2019 10:57:43 GMT -5
May's mean is also only 0.6C warmer than October. Compare to Copenhagen where May is 2.7C warmer.
Yep, spring sticks out like a sore thumb. Still very amusing how a 27.2°C day happened during the 2012 North American March heat wave, the month in general saw a 6°C average high, so it was like a really random event. Amazingly enough, Nice has a March record of 26.1°C in spite of averaging 12°C warmer. Halifax also beats Nice's April, May and even September's record highs as well in spite of the mediterranean being really warm by then. The charm of sudden changes of wind direction. Now this is a good climate... A or A- though.  |
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 16, 2019 11:01:40 GMT -5
I had a climate battle between that one and the Aussie namesake once. I'll probably do Bathurst sometime soon  |
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 16, 2019 11:50:18 GMT -5
How about some northern or Canada ones? Those would be more interesting than identical Canadian maritime climates.
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Post by tij on Mar 16, 2019 13:57:38 GMT -5
Steelernation identical? I think there are noticeable differences between St Johns and Halifax-- the latter seems significantly better. Agree that Lommaren should do a wider range of climates tho-- what about some mediterranean ones or some subtropical highlands? Turkey and Croatia, in particular, seem like interesting countries to explore more.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 16, 2019 14:32:46 GMT -5
How about some northern or Canada ones? Those would be more interesting than identical Canadian maritime climates. I've something other than the maritimes in mind right now. Not Northern per se, but latitude-wise it definitely is a bit up. I'll keep you posted. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 16, 2019 14:49:13 GMT -5
How about some northern or Canada ones? Those would be more interesting than identical Canadian maritime climates. I've something other than the maritimes in mind right now. Not Northern per se, but latitude-wise it definitely is a bit up. I'll keep you posted.  |
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 16, 2019 15:10:10 GMT -5
I thought you liked Edmöntön?
Steelernation , it's definitely gotten drier but at the same time the snow data that was there (2002-2007) was up, so I'd expect it to be about 120 cm even with a drier and milder climate. Do you find it okay by Canadian standards? Also, April has actually gotten colder! July has gotten above the 24°C line as well. I'm sure Angler will dub it a "Cfd climate" though  |
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 16, 2019 15:16:25 GMT -5
Spring is shit but at least it’s dry and there’s some heat potential, so yeah it’s a pretty solid climate for Canada,
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 16, 2019 15:20:27 GMT -5
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Post by knot on Mar 16, 2019 16:09:44 GMT -5
Halifax' airport 2002-2018: Warmer in general, with two summer months well above the 24°C line. Snowfall is actually still up in spite of the milder temperatures, which makes it better for me than it was before! Check the airport normals for 1981-2010 as the second weatherbox in the article for reference of what it came from.
knot , 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 , thoughts? Is this a top climate or not? After all, snowfall is up and summers a bit warmer! Also, Ariete , do you find this better than anything in the Nordics? I'm a bit torn between this and the best ones in the Nordics in the same timeframe, there are excessive cold rain and winds in this one, although temperatures are generally more favourable both for snow cover and summer warmth. So, C- for all of them to me. B+; handsome winters, but summers too stable, boring, and washed-out. If summers are that stable, then I'd prefer them to be cooler; cool stable weather>>>>warm stable weather, for me. |
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Post by tij on Mar 16, 2019 20:21:02 GMT -5
Lommaren I'm suprised at how similar edmonton's city center averages looks to MSP in January... summer (it's definitely a proper summer, and not crummer, with 76/55 in july) also seems pleasant. Transitions are terrible tho obviously. And I loathe those dry winters! It's a C- I'd say.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 16, 2019 21:04:50 GMT -5
Not an identical maritimes climate on this occasion Thoughts Steelernation , 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 and knot (even bad by maritime standards right) ? Definitely an interesting climate at 62°N, albeit a helluva cold one! Also, one degree of latitude lower than Umeå and Trondheim. The annual average is colder than the January of Minneapolis tij ! 1981-2010 normals. It's interesting to see how January has gotten less cold, February-June being flat, before July and August have gotten warmer, firmly being subarctic now. It would be interesting whether taiga trees could now be planted to see how they'd sustain with two months above 10°C by now, a human-induced lowering of the tree line in that case. All of the autumn has gotten milder, delaying the onset of the climate of the Hudson Bay freeze, although November through April are likely to not rise above freezing. Peak winter has moved from January to February. It also has significantly lower annual mean maximums than Nain with similar summer average highs. On that front, Rankin Inlet is actually very close to Tromsø in its warmth potential in July. Winter still lasts for eight months and can easily spill over into early June and late September as well.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 16, 2019 22:04:06 GMT -5
Jan-Feb are a bit too cold for me but other than that winters are okay Arctic shit. Summers are decent for the climate but still too cool.
I'll give it a generous C- rating. Can you do Inuvik? That is one of the most interesting Canadian climates.
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 16, 2019 22:09:44 GMT -5
Summer actually isn’t that bad. Horrible for summer, yes, but as individual months quite nice. A lot of these kinds of climates tend to have drizzly, washed out summers but these are decent.
The rest of the year sucks though so it’s still an F.
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Post by knot on Mar 16, 2019 22:40:16 GMT -5
Not an identical maritimes climate on this occasion Thoughts Steelernation , 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 and knot (even bad by maritime standards right) ? Definitely an interesting climate at 62°N, albeit a helluva cold one! Also, one degree of latitude lower than Umeå and Trondheim. The annual average is colder than the January of Minneapolis tij ! 1981-2010 normals. It's interesting to see how January has gotten less cold, February-June being flat, before July and August have gotten warmer, firmly being subarctic now. It would be interesting whether taiga trees could now be planted to see how they'd sustain with two months above 10°C by now, a human-induced lowering of the tree line in that case. All of the autumn has gotten milder, delaying the onset of the climate of the Hudson Bay freeze, although November through April are likely to not rise above freezing. Peak winter has moved from January to February. It also has significantly lower annual mean maximums than Nain with similar summer average highs. On that front, Rankin Inlet is actually very close to Tromsø in its warmth potential in July. Winter still lasts for eight months and can easily spill over into early June and late September as well.  C–; fucken nasty winters! Crummers are also terribly stable and downright boring. October is by leagues the best month there; pleasant, as well as the snowiest. Also, I don't yield such "maritime standards" any longer; ditched em' since a while ago! |
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