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Post by Lommaren on Mar 17, 2019 7:07:12 GMT -5
So A+ among maritime standards are now just A+ by any standards or have that affected those things too? knot |
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Post by knot on Mar 17, 2019 15:45:35 GMT -5
So A+ among maritime standards are now just A+ by any standards or have that affected those things too? knot Pretty much, aye; base climate ratings on how fun and/or satisfying they are for me nowadays. |
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 17, 2019 16:23:09 GMT -5
Inuvik apparently had no airport station between 2013 and 2018 so I'd have to change to the urban station for those years that is not comparable with the Wikibox... it feels rather hopeless 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 . Then in the summer of 2012 there's a bunch of missing data too, so I'll just screen the 2002-2011 numbers. I might do urban Inuvik and the new station for 2003-2018 sometime, but not sure when. I'm just sick of working on those stations after all trouble they've caused me this weekend  The airport station didn't even have precipitation listed after 2007, which forced me to start over with the urban stations' precipitation, but then Inuvik's central station's snowfall went out and then the airport one shut down altogether, before it opened again in 2018... annoying stuff. At least I'd have plenty of the precipitation done for the 2003-2018 averages when I decide to do them. Averages:   Better than nothing. Winters got milder, but summers not really. |
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 17, 2019 21:01:07 GMT -5
Hay River at 61°N in Southern Northwest Territories is a lakeshore climate that has definitely warmed quite a bit recently, save for the suddenly colder Marches that are even more below the old normals than those on the prairies. These are the 1981-2010 normals. Snowfall being up by a full 35.5 cm (14 inches) can only be commented with It being a full degree south of Yellowknife, while on the same lake, definitely helps it warm up faster and also stay less severe in winter.  Thoughts on it 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 , knot and Steelernation ? For being in the territories it's not too bad, even though winters are horrible. Summers are quite acceptable however, although not ideal. Given how sunny Yellowknife is in summer, I'd expect those to be quite nice in that regard. An E for me. |
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 17, 2019 21:16:20 GMT -5
Summers aren’t bad, dry, warmish and variable but winters are much too cold and long. I’ll give it an E.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 17, 2019 22:05:59 GMT -5
A- or B+ for me. Winters are a bit long (fuck that March/April are cold).
The rest of the year is perfect though, including the heart of winter. It's just the winter length that would annoy me.
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Post by knot on Mar 17, 2019 22:31:02 GMT -5
Hay River at 61°N in Southern Northwest Territories is a lakeshore climate that has definitely warmed quite a bit recently, save for the suddenly colder Marches that are even more below the old normals than those on the prairies. These are the 1981-2010 normals. Snowfall being up by a full 35.5 cm (14 inches) can only be commented with It being a full degree south of Yellowknife, while on the same lake, definitely helps it warm up faster and also stay less severe in winter. Thoughts on it 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 , knot and Steelernation ? For being in the territories it's not too bad, even though winters are horrible. Summers are quite acceptable however, although not ideal. Given how sunny Yellowknife is in summer, I'd expect those to be quite nice in that regard. An E for me. B; lovely summers, but fucken nasty winters. |
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 18, 2019 20:28:59 GMT -5
Port Hardy on the NW part of Vancouver Island 2002-2018. It essentially makes Scotland look good by comparison and the warming has been very limited compared to the 1981-2010 normals, the main difference being cold rain being up and snowfall being down simultaneously. What a complete climate fail that makes Vancouver look epic by comparison rpvan and 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 , you guys are lucky to have the mountain shielding to even get what you get! This looks like a proper nightmare by Candle's standards either way! Also, tij here you have it: temperate Canada! Thoughts? I assume knot will find the rain rather than snow highly annoying too. For me this is an E-.
Port Alice and Tofino had insufficient data access, sadly enough.
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Post by tij on Mar 18, 2019 20:45:46 GMT -5
Lommaren that ones a bit too cool for me-- like a B- probably, maybe a C+ if sunshine is horrific. Still beats the crap out of the prairies tho!
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 18, 2019 20:55:04 GMT -5
Port Hardy on the NW part of Vancouver Island 2002-2018. It essentially makes Scotland look good by comparison and the warming has been very limited compared to the 1981-2010 normals, the main difference being cold rain being up and snowfall being down simultaneously. What a complete climate fail that makes Vancouver look epic by comparison rpvan and 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 , you guys are lucky to have the mountain shielding to even get what you get! This looks like a proper nightmare by Candle's standards either way! Also, tij here you have it: temperate Canada! Thoughts? I assume knot will find the rain rather than snow highly annoying too. For me this is an E-.
Port Alice and Tofino had insufficient data access, sadly enough.
C- or D+ Not as mild or wet as Tofino though, so that's a plus. Unfortunately for Port Hardy, it does not get as much cold air as even nearby Campbell River, which is quite shielded. Campbell River has one of the best lowland climates in the region.  |
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Post by knot on Mar 19, 2019 1:48:42 GMT -5
Port Hardy on the NW part of Vancouver Island 2002-2018. It essentially makes Scotland look good by comparison and the warming has been very limited compared to the 1981-2010 normals, the main difference being cold rain being up and snowfall being down simultaneously. What a complete climate fail that makes Vancouver look epic by comparison rpvan and 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 , you guys are lucky to have the mountain shielding to even get what you get! This looks like a proper nightmare by Candle's standards either way! Also, tij here you have it: temperate Canada! Thoughts? I assume knot will find the rain rather than snow highly annoying too. For me this is an E-. Port Alice and Tofino had insufficient data access, sadly enough.
C+; bloody boring summers, with a tremendously poor rainfall:snowfall ratio. |
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Post by rpvan on Mar 19, 2019 2:33:18 GMT -5
Port Hardy on the NW part of Vancouver Island 2002-2018. It essentially makes Scotland look good by comparison and the warming has been very limited compared to the 1981-2010 normals, the main difference being cold rain being up and snowfall being down simultaneously. What a complete climate fail that makes Vancouver look epic by comparison rpvan and 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 , you guys are lucky to have the mountain shielding to even get what you get! This looks like a proper nightmare by Candle's standards either way! Also, tij here you have it: temperate Canada! Thoughts? I assume knot will find the rain rather than snow highly annoying too. For me this is an E-.
Port Alice and Tofino had insufficient data access, sadly enough.
Port Hardy....yikes. Been there three times in total; each visit was during summer. Each time it was pouring rain with temps hovering around 11/12C....in the middle of summer!  |
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 19, 2019 7:38:24 GMT -5
For Port Hardy I'd accidentally divided the precipitation for the spring months by 16 rather than 17 because an earlier template had seen that particular location lack spring data and Excel didn't alert me since it was consecutive months, so I've fixed it up now. That makes precipitation in general very similar between 1981-2010 and 2002-2018.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 19, 2019 16:04:22 GMT -5
Inukjuak 2002-2018 at 58°N on the eastern shore of Hudson Bay: clearly a lot warmer in January and summer, with the delay of the Hudson Bay ice sheet marking an insane warming of December compared to the 1971-2000 normals as the onset of the sea ice of the Hudson Bay have definitely gotten delayed by a bit. Definitely an interesting climate to study for climate change in the Arctic and how it'll proceed. Summers are now subarctic rather than tundra, but there still has to be question marks over how well planted trees would fare given both 2017 and 2018 turned really cold in summer out of the blue. Obviously, Hudson Bay will remain the worst latitudal anomaly on Earth for combined summer/winter cold regardless, and its eastern shore is the worst fate of the lot. It's amazing to be living more northerly than this and also right on a coastline.
With peak winter precipitation having gone up when the air temperatures are really cold, snowfall may well be up in spite of the climate warming in general, and starting at 204.6 cm (80.4 inches) it was already quite snowy.
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Post by knot on Mar 19, 2019 16:06:25 GMT -5
Inukjuak 2002-2018 at 58°N on the eastern shore of Hudson Bay: clearly a lot warmer in January and summer, with the delay of the Hudson Bay ice sheet marking an insane warming of December compared to the 1971-2000 normals as the onset of the sea ice of the Hudson Bay have definitely gotten delayed by a bit. Definitely an interesting climate to study for climate change in the Arctic and how it'll proceed. Summers are now subarctic rather than tundra, but there still has to be question marks over how well planted trees would fare given both 2017 and 2018 turned really cold in summer out of the blue. Obviously, Hudson Bay will remain the worst latitudal anomaly on Earth for combined summer/winter cold regardless, and its eastern shore is the worst fate of the lot. It's amazing to be living more northerly than this and also right on a coastline. D+; absolute codswallop.  |
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 19, 2019 16:10:24 GMT -5
Cfd-related problems knot ?
I guess you can figure out what that climate classification/acronym would mean  |
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 19, 2019 16:54:54 GMT -5
Shit. Rainy late summer/fall. Freezing, long, boring winters.
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 22, 2019 16:44:30 GMT -5
Let me know if you guys want me to do some for US cities. It’s very easy and quick to do.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 22, 2019 19:00:50 GMT -5
Let me know if you guys want me to do some for US cities. It’s very easy and quick to do. I'd fancy some California ones that aren't too moderated during summer:
Primarily Willow Creek, Clearlake, Santa Rosa and Vallejo.
Quite interesting to see how the North Californian near-coastal interior is responding to the warming climate temperature and precipitation-wise.
I'm working on Gimli, Manitoba right now by the way, I'm doing it slowly but steadily but I'll probably pick up the pace again next week. The weather's been a bit more interesting last few days so been outside more.
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 22, 2019 20:32:17 GMT -5
Lommaren here’s Weaverville:  Main Weaverville station had lots of missing data so this is one from about 10 miles east. Snow isn’t that high but only 2 of the last 20 seasons had none.
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The airport station didn't even have precipitation listed after 2007, which forced me to start over with the urban stations' precipitation, but then Inuvik's central station's snowfall went out and then the airport one shut down altogether, before it opened again in 2018... annoying stuff. At least I'd have plenty of the precipitation done for the 2003-2018 averages when I decide to do them.
