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Post by AJ1013 on Oct 4, 2018 12:32:29 GMT -5
Basically I strongly disliked a climate that is a slightly cooler version of Joe's, so he's become obsessive about it Joe's climate would infuriate me. Pathetic crummers and winters that are constantly cold with no chance of snow.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 12:36:32 GMT -5
Never said sunshine was the most important factor for me, doesn't mean I can't have an ideal. Yes, your ideal would seem to be cloudy and damp, with particular emphasis on a cloudy and damp winter.My particular emphasis is something that might actually do something from time to time. Not going to happen in climatic limbos like Devonport or Motueka.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 12:44:32 GMT -5
My particular emphasis is something that might actually do something from time to time. Not going to happen in climatic limbos like Devonport or Motueka. I guess Ireland can get uncharacteristically warm and sunny at times, while here is much of a muchness. It's not really about particular climates though, rather your reasoning. Crummers are much of a muchness in both locations. I've stated my reasons. Clearly you have an inflated sense of self-importance, but in reality I don't actually owe you anymore explanation than I've already given.
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Post by AJ1013 on Oct 4, 2018 12:45:23 GMT -5
Joe's climate would infuriate me. Pathetic crummers and winters that are constantly cold with no chance of snow. Summers are mild, but I wouldn't call them pleasant -the sun is the enemy here. I wouldn't call winters constantly cold - frosty in the morning and t-shirt at lunchtime, is comom. Snow doesn't fall here, but even a mild winter like this year saw snow within a 10 minute drive, on about 5 occasions. 72/55 is very crappy for summer. And I wouldn't call 54F t-shirt weather. imo Joe's climate while bad is still better than Ireland though.
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Post by AJ1013 on Oct 4, 2018 12:49:53 GMT -5
72/55 is very crappy for summer . And I wouldn't call 54F t-shirt weather. imo Joe's climate while bad is still better than Ireland though. You would if you were here though- that's the difference. That doesn’t make any sense. How would living in Nelson make 54F seem warmer to me?
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Post by AJ1013 on Oct 4, 2018 13:04:49 GMT -5
That doesn’t make any sense. How would living in Nelson make 54F seem warmer to me? Why would it seem warm to me? -perhaps it's the sensation of feeling warm? But I don't feel warm in a t-shirt at 54F.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 13:09:52 GMT -5
1900-2200
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Post by AJ1013 on Oct 4, 2018 13:13:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 13:25:19 GMT -5
A guy who's spent his life between Miami and Arizona would not find 54F "warm".
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Post by rozenn on Oct 4, 2018 17:39:46 GMT -5
2350 is the average in my dream climate. I doubt it has ever recorded below 2000 hours, but neither over 2800. Ideal is 30% of possible in winter, 65% of possible in summer. This, precisely.
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Post by Donar on Oct 4, 2018 21:33:07 GMT -5
1600-1900, but the upper end of that range. I'm surprised you like such little sunshine, thought you liked it sunny. Nah I dont like cloudless days they are boring. My choice was based on what I'm used to, which is about 1650 annual sunshine hours. That's a bit too cloudy for my liking but not too bad. 200 hours more is enough for me.
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Post by irlinit on Oct 5, 2018 16:22:51 GMT -5
For some reason I can’t change my vote but I go for 2800-3100
Cloud sucks unless it’s light puffy cumulus (just a bit during hot days is nice) or when a storm is building up
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Post by Dean York (Old) on Oct 5, 2018 17:06:42 GMT -5
Around 2700 for me, distributed fairly evenly throughout the year.
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Post by chesternz on Oct 6, 2018 4:06:20 GMT -5
3100-3400 hrs for me. That translates to being sunny about three-quarters of the time. I've always lived in climates with 2000-2600 sunshine hours and I've always felt dissatisfied. But the distribution is more important than the total - I don't want a lopsided seasonal distribution of sunshine. So, I'll take a climate with an average of six sunshine hours every month (2200 hrs p/a) over one with 3 hrs in the cloudiest month but 12 hrs in the sunniest (with a total of 2500 hrs or so).
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Post by Giorbanguly on Oct 6, 2018 8:47:06 GMT -5
NYC is a bit too cloudy for me, so maybe around 3000 sunshine hours. Although between 2500 and 3500 is acceptable, going by American measurements
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Post by Benfxmth on Mar 17, 2020 10:37:16 GMT -5
2800-3100 sunshine hours is ideal for me.
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Post by knot on Mar 18, 2020 20:31:11 GMT -5
2,500 - 2,800; thrice as much in summer than in winter.
~ 100 hrs mid-winter; 300 hrs mid-summer (35° - 36° S daylight standards).
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Post by Morningrise on Mar 19, 2020 0:13:52 GMT -5
I think low to mid 2000s is pretty good for me overall, though I would say distribution is more important than hard numbers - I don't want any one season to be heavily dominant in cloudiness or sunshine (though I am okay with some variation between months and seasons).
One of my least favorite aspects of Vancouver's climate when I lived there was the constant gloom and clouds in the fall and winter followed by the neverending sunshine in the summer. Saskatoon also has summer as the sunniest season and winter as the cloudiest, but here you'll get plenty of sunshine in the winter and plenty of clouds in the summer so it feels more even and rarely feels excessive in any season, and that's just the way I like it.
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Post by trolik on Mar 21, 2020 9:58:46 GMT -5
2800-3100 constant cloudiness is nearly as bad as the cold
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Post by Donar on Apr 1, 2020 15:01:43 GMT -5
1600-1900, but the upper end of that range. I wrote that while I was baked in SE Asia at almost 90 degree sun angle. Nowadays my ideal is in the 2200-2500 h range.
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