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Post by Nidaros on Apr 14, 2018 15:28:05 GMT -5
^^ Eureka: The ice and snow also reflects the suns rays rather than absorb the warmth
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Post by alex992 on Apr 14, 2018 15:37:25 GMT -5
^^ Eureka: The ice and snow also reflects the suns rays rather than absorb the warmth Very good point. Albedo effect plays a big role here as well. |
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Post by Crunch41 on Apr 14, 2018 15:47:09 GMT -5
When will Inukjuak reach 0? 10?
0C is likely later this month. Last 0C was early December.
10C will be a while. Last 10C was late September and April's record high is only 7.
Eureka usually gets above freezing in late May. But Resolute or a few other places can take until early June.
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Post by alex992 on Apr 14, 2018 15:49:41 GMT -5
I'd say May 3rd for first 0 C, May 28th for first 10 C.
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Post by alex992 on Apr 14, 2018 15:50:36 GMT -5
Brr. And with 14? Hours of daylight Impressive they set their record low 13 days into the month, -40 C is probably possible on April 1st. |
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Post by alex992 on Apr 14, 2018 15:52:59 GMT -5
 Although 0 C is in the forecast for the 21st-22nd, so maybe I'm off. |
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Post by Lommaren on Apr 14, 2018 16:04:36 GMT -5
Although 0 C is in the forecast for the 21st-22nd, so maybe I'm off. I'm thinking along the lines that the unseasonally warm spell forecast for Far Northern Norway next weekend might actually benefit the spring development in the Hudson Bay since strong southerlies will drag warm air to the polar region, which then decreases the strength of cold in the northerly airflows due to the earth's small size there it should easily be possible to happen. This would in turn render dominance for the warmer air flow from the south since the cold fronts up the Arctic are weakened. After all, Inukjuak is starting to reach a sun angle now; already above 40°, that easily enables milder days during freak episodes of winds from the south. Inukjuak has a higher mean maximum in July than people might think. I'm tempted to calculate it for 1981-2010, but it's far warmer than other 13°C July climates, that's for sure. In January the sun is so weak on these latitudes that no southerlies to the poles can make Inukjuak around 0°C for a sustained time, but now the sun's starting to play a role even there. |
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Post by Lommaren on Apr 17, 2018 6:30:05 GMT -5
Siberia and related: 18/4-24/4:
Astana: 16/6
Chita: 17/-1
Harbin: 19/8
Irkutsk: 15/2
Khabarovsk: 17/6
Komsomolsk: 16/4
Krasnoyarsk: 8/0
Kyzyl: 19/4
Magadan: 1/-4
Mohe County: 15/-5
Nakhodka: 14/6
Norilsk: -11/-18
Novosibirsk: 10/-0
Omsk: 7/-1
Oymyakon: -2/-18
Petropavlovsk: 4/-1
Spassk-Dalny: 15/5
Ulaanbaatar: 18/4
Verkhoyansk: 1/-12
Vladivostok: 14/6
Yakutsk: 3/-5
Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk: 13/2
So, East Asia continues to be warmer on higher latitudes than the seemingly hopelessly frozen Eastern US and Canada. Remarkable diurnals continue in some areas, while the daytime warmth is unseasonal, nights remain closer to normals simultaneously. Remarkable cold ridge in Western Siberia continues in spite of Europe and Asia warming up surrounding it.
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Post by Lommaren on Apr 17, 2018 6:50:54 GMT -5
North American continental places; on the high-latitude or cold side (18 Apr-24 Apr): Anchorage: 9/1 Calgary: 14/-1 Churchill: 7/-2 Edmonton: 14/-3 Fairbanks: 7/-8 Fort McMurray: 13/-1 Fort Simpson: 5/-6 Fort Yukon: -0/-14 Kuujjuaq: 1/-9 Inukjuak: -0/-8 Intl' Falls: 13/-2 Iqaluit: -6/-14 Matagami: 6/-4 Moosonee: 7/-4 Nain: 2/-6 Regina: 11/-2 Saskatoon: 14/1 Thompson: 11/-2 Winnipeg: 16/2 Yellowknife: 1/-10 Winnipeg really warms up fast right now, same with Edmonton and Saskatoon. Most remarkable though is the forecast for Churchill, way above average instead of way below average just 10 days ago  |
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Post by Lommaren on Apr 17, 2018 14:42:08 GMT -5
Europe above 61°N (18 Apr-24 Apr):
Arkhangelsk: 3/-6
Bodø: 8/5
Faroe Islands: 10/7
Jyväskylä: 11/2
Kautokeino: 4/-5
Kiruna: 6/-1
Kuusamo: 6/-4
Lillehammer: 15/4
Luleå: 10/1
Murmansk: 1/-3
Oulu: 6/0
Petrozavodsk: 6/-1
Reykjavík: 9/6
Rovaniemi: 7/0
Røst: 8/5
Skellefteå: 11/3
Sundsvall: 12/4
Tampere: 12/3
Tromsø: 7/2
Trondheim: 12/6
Umeå: 12/3
Vorkuta: -7/-15
Ålesund: 11/6
Östersund: 9/4
Vorkuta and Russia in general continues to be a shocker (2°C below average as the rest of Northern Europe is above it for Vorkuta and the other Russian locations are still cold) connected to the really cold ridge dominating Central Russia right now, aside from that it's unseasonably warm in many areas, although the biggest extremes have been toned down a bit since last time. The water between Sweden and Finland still acts like a strong barrier for warmth though, the difference between Luleå and Oulu is remarkable due to the cold meltwater. Rovaniemi, with an unhindered land path towards the Gulf Stream is actually forecast a warmer week than Oulu, quite a bit farther south because of this.
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Post by Ariete on Apr 18, 2018 3:52:39 GMT -5
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Post by Ariete on Apr 19, 2018 4:02:19 GMT -5
Utsjoki isn't done with winter yet. It can arrive in maded ice day even!  |
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Post by Lommaren on Apr 20, 2018 14:09:04 GMT -5
Siberia and related: 21/4-27/4: Astana: 16/8 Chita: 20/0 Harbin: 19/6 Irkutsk: 18/4 Khabarovsk: 18/5 Komsomolsk: 16/3 Krasnoyarsk: 13/5 Kyzyl: 24/7 Magadan: 1/-4 Mohe County: 16/-4 Nakhodka: 16/6 Norilsk: -4/-10 Novosibirsk: 14/6 Omsk: 12/4 Oymyakon: -1/-19 Petropavlovsk: 5/-2 Spassk-Dalny: 14/3 Ulaanbaatar: 16/3 Verkhoyansk: 2/-12 Vladivostok: 15/5 Yakutsk: 2/-8 Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk: 12/1 Really warming up intensely in Kyzyl; and the diurnals in Chita and the warm-up in Verkhoyansk are both astounding. If this forecast holds Chita will have a 23/-3 day on Thursday and Verkhoyansk could record double digits in plus degrees once next week. Kyzyl is abnormally warm this April. Omsk, Novosibirsk and Krasnoyarsk are finally warming up and even Norilsk now at least is forecast a Tromsø cold wave during winter  Better late than never... |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Apr 20, 2018 14:26:37 GMT -5
Siberia and related: 21/4-27/4: Really warming up intensely in Kyzyl; and the diurnals in Chita and the warm-up in Verkhoyansk are both astounding. If this forecast holds Chita will have a 23/-3 day on Thursday and Verkhoyansk could record double digits in plus degrees once next week. Kyzyl is abnormally warm this April. Omsk, Novosibirsk and Krasnoyarsk are finally warming up and even Norilsk now at least is forecast a Tromsø cold wave during winter Better late than never... My mainest Sverige-bro, can you add Asahikawa to this list?  |
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Post by Lommaren on Apr 20, 2018 15:04:04 GMT -5
My mainest Sverige-bro, can you add Asahikawa to this list? Hmm... I've scrapped Yuzhno-Kurilsk since I don't think it's polar enough, so Asahikawa at an even lower latitude on an offshore island looks like it might maded a tougher sell -3/-13 winters might make the Northern Europe list but I mean just check this for coldest month:
Astana: -10/-18
Chita: -18/-31
Harbin: -13/-24
Irkutsk: -13/-22
Khabarovsk: -16/-24
Komsomolsk: -20/-31
Krasnoyarsk: -11/-19
Kyzyl: -24/-33
Magadan: -14/-19
Mohe County: -21/-36
Nakhodka: -6/-12
Norilsk: -24/-31
Novosibirsk: -12/-21
Omsk: -12/-21
Oymyakon: -43/-50
Petropavlovsk: -5/-10
Spassk-Dalny: -11/-23
Ulaanbaatar: -16/-26
Verkhoyansk: -42/-48
Vladivostok: -8/-15
Yakutsk: -35/-42
Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk: -7/-17
So, Asahikawa is only comparable to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky in its coldest month, and unlike there where winter lasts forever, Asahikawa has warm summers too. So, hardly polar, albeit cold for its latitude |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Apr 20, 2018 15:16:26 GMT -5
My mainest Sverige-bro, can you add Asahikawa to this list? Hmm... I've scrapped Yuzhno-Kurilsk since I don't think it's polar enough, so Asahikawa at an even lower latitude on an offshore island looks like it might maded a tougher sell -3/-13 winters might make the Northern Europe list but I mean just check this for coldest month:
Astana: -10/-18
Chita: -18/-31
Harbin: -13/-24
Irkutsk: -13/-22
Khabarovsk: -16/-24
Komsomolsk: -20/-31
Krasnoyarsk: -11/-19
Kyzyl: -24/-33
Magadan: -14/-19
Mohe County: -21/-36
Nakhodka: -6/-12
Norilsk: -24/-31
Novosibirsk: -12/-21
Omsk: -12/-21
Oymyakon: -43/-50
Petropavlovsk: -5/-10
Spassk-Dalny: -11/-23
Ulaanbaatar: -16/-26
Verkhoyansk: -42/-48
Vladivostok: -8/-15
Yakutsk: -35/-42
Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk: -7/-17
So, Asahikawa is only comparable to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky in its coldest month, and unlike there where winter lasts forever, Asahikawa has warm summers too. So, hardly polar, albeit cold for its latitude But you have Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk which is at the southern end of Sakhalin and it ain't far from Asahikawa. It also used to be a Japanese town (Toyohara). At least put down Wakkanai...  |
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Post by Lommaren on Apr 20, 2018 15:42:48 GMT -5
But you have Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk which is at the southern end of Sakhalin and it ain't far from Asahikawa. It also used to be a Japanese town (Toyohara). At least put down Wakkanai... Higher latitude and colder winters Sadly, Wakkanai maded very boring climate under these "inland standards" required for that part of the world bro jajajaja Also what stops Mr Candle from compiling Hokkaido locations on Weather Online the coming seven days and dividing those by 7 himself? You seem very adept at those things, mark my words! |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Apr 20, 2018 16:00:13 GMT -5
But you have Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk which is at the southern end of Sakhalin and it ain't far from Asahikawa. It also used to be a Japanese town (Toyohara). At least put down Wakkanai... Higher latitude and colder winters Sadly, Wakkanai maded very boring climate under these "inland standards" required for that part of the world bro jajajaja Also what stops Mr Candle from compiling Hokkaido locations on Weather Online the coming seven days and dividing those by 7 himself? You seem very adept at those things, mark my words! What about Nakhodka then? It's at 42.8N and averages -9.3C in January. Asahikawa is at 43.7N and averages -7.5C in January and has an all time record low of -41C, which is colder than either Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk or Nakhodka (-36.2C and -27C respectively). I'm sure you know which one is also the snowiest of the three. Come on, I'm not giving up on this one. |
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Post by Lommaren on Apr 20, 2018 16:03:23 GMT -5
What about Nakhodka then? It's at 42.8N and averages -9.3C in January. Asahikawa is at 43.7N and averages -7.5C in January and has an all time record low of -41C, which is colder than either Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk or Nakhodka (-36.2C and -27C respectively). I'm sure you know which one is also the snowiest of the three. Come on, I'm not giving up on this one. Nakhodka is in Siberia Asahikawa is almost as mild as Nyköping annually lol. Sure Nakhodka is close too, but it's still the coldest coastal city on its latitude by far. Asahikawa is also on an island not really attached to Asia's mainland, unlike Sakhalin where you could in theory build a bridge over to Siberia. Also, why not make charts yourself? |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Apr 20, 2018 16:27:30 GMT -5
What about Nakhodka then? It's at 42.8N and averages -9.3C in January. Asahikawa is at 43.7N and averages -7.5C in January and has an all time record low of -41C, which is colder than either Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk or Nakhodka (-36.2C and -27C respectively). I'm sure you know which one is also the snowiest of the three. Come on, I'm not giving up on this one. Nakhodka is in Siberia Asahikawa is almost as mild as Nyköping annually lol. Sure Nakhodka is close too, but it's still the coldest coastal city on its latitude by far. Asahikawa is also on an island not really attached to Asia's mainland, unlike Sakhalin where you could in theory build a bridge over to Siberia. Also, why not make charts yourself? I could. I'm just arguing with you. Anyways, Astana, Harbin, Mohe, and Ulaanbataaaaar aren't in Siberia either, technically. They have Siberia-like temperatures but that's all they have in common. You could easily build a bridge to Hokkaido from Sakhalin...  |
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