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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 12:27:39 GMT -5
Barely 2C warmer than here. May and September are still colder than the equivalent months in Motueka, and the sunniest summer month is still cloudier than Motueka's cloudiest month. Then there's the rest of the year, where either sub 14C days with rain, or months averaging under 30% sunshine are standard - I'm thinking you're more of a cool/cold temperature, cloudy day sort of posterI am the exact opposite. I checked the climate stats again, and you can ignore the comment you quoted. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 12:34:40 GMT -5
I am the exact opposite. I checked the climate stats again, and you can ignore the comment you quoted. I am not saying any of that. I meant that I am a heat/sunshine poster. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 12:41:20 GMT -5
I am not saying any of that. I meant that I am a heat/sunshine poster. But you take a minor increase for three months (which are cloudier than the cloudiest month here) to gain much colder, cloudier and rainier conditions the rest of the year - you're no warmth/sun lover Again, you can ignore my comment after I checked the stats of London, Ontario again. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 12:47:38 GMT -5
Again, you can ignore my comment after I checked the stats of London, Ontario again. Okay, you mean you wouldn't take London Ontario over the other two? - I didn't think you would I would take Motueka over both London's after looking at the stats. |
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Post by rozenn on Jan 5, 2020 21:43:57 GMT -5
London definitely. I've had enough of this horrible 10°C and sunny winter weather in Nice. At least there I had a warm summer to look forward to.
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Post by knot on Jan 5, 2020 23:31:53 GMT -5
If London and Motueka both have cool summers, wouldn't you rather have a more pleasant winter to offset it? Or do you prefer cloudy and cool year round? London's cold, occasionally snowy winters provide a much better contrast between seasons than Motueka. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Jan 6, 2020 1:35:39 GMT -5
London no question.
Motueka is so mild. And that's saying a lot because London is pretty mild as well!
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Post by chesternz on Jan 6, 2020 6:47:46 GMT -5
Nelson for better winters. The difference between 8 C and 12 C highs is huge (even the slightest breeze feels freezing to me at 8 C) and then there's a huge difference (about a hundred hours per month) in winter sunshine hours. And a stronger sun, longer daylight hours, etc.
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Post by Speagles84 on Jan 6, 2020 7:56:03 GMT -5
London
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Post by Lommaren on Jan 6, 2020 12:03:29 GMT -5
Motueka for more sun and handsome winter diurnals.
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Post by rozenn on Jan 6, 2020 13:41:25 GMT -5
London definitely. I've had enough of this horrible 10°C and sunny winter weather in Nice. At least there I had a warm summer to look forward to. If London and Motueka both have cool summers, wouldn't you rather have a more pleasant winter to offset it? Or do you prefer cloudy and cool year round? I prefer cloudy and cool in winter, and that's what London provides in this battle. In summer I much prefer warm and sunny, but winter is more crucial here as it's the season where the difference is largest in terms of temps. Similarly, I prefer Paris to Nice despite my craving for hot and sunny summers. |
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Post by trolik on Jan 6, 2020 16:41:41 GMT -5
london winning again, we love to see it lads
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Post by rozenn on Jan 6, 2020 17:45:01 GMT -5
I enjoy sunny weather in winter if it's freezing or approaching it. If the weather's mild, I prefer it to be gloomy. Cloudy weather is kinda cozy in winter, and I enjoy the combination with short days. I enjoy contrasting seasons and if winter isn't going to be 20-25°C+ colder than summer, it might as well be the grey season.
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Post by knot on Jan 7, 2020 16:10:58 GMT -5
I would think London can see 16C highs in summer London is also quite spread out and has some stations that are quite a bit cooler than Heathrow (which likely has some UHI) If I include stations in the Motueka area, over London's area, there is a station that goes from an average low of -0.8C to an average high of 24.4C, has 68 frosts, has 87 days of rain >1mm, and gets snow during winter - London can't match that."From an average low of –0.8° C to an average high of 24.4° C"...talk about cherry-picking! You cannot take the average winter low and link it with the average summer high; to do so, is disgracefully fraudulent. "gets snow during winter"...but does it get 16 snowy days per annum like London? And that's the figure for the UHI London, too! The rural outskirts of London easily push 25-30 snowy days annually, which absolutely throttles any town in your region of NZ. In terms of snowfall, London is comparable to the likes of Queenstown, Otago. Don’t even try to compare NZ winters to those of the UK; for the latter are ten-fold snowier. |
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Post by Strewthless on Jan 8, 2020 11:21:54 GMT -5
A London climate battle, some things never change!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 11:12:13 GMT -5
A London climate battle, some things never change! I thought everyone was fed up of London climate battles? |
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Post by knot on Jan 9, 2020 17:06:32 GMT -5
I thought everyone was fed up of London climate battles? Motueka is the centrepiece of this, really...Joe90 loves to boast about how "subtropical" Motueka is. |
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Post by Strewthless on Jan 9, 2020 18:56:08 GMT -5
Motueka is the centrepiece of this, really...Joe90 loves to boast about how "subtropical" Motueka is. Nope, Motueka is clearly Oceanic by genetics, but I do maintain that the environment does follow a clear pattern of non dormancy as illustrated by the ecosystem, or by the suitability of introduced species that favour year round growth. This is the essence of subtropical- ness to me.
Yes, but only to you. You've essentially re-appropriated a word because you like to use it to describe your climate. Why not coin a new term, like Joetropical or something? |
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Post by AJ1013 on Jan 9, 2020 20:16:59 GMT -5
No, as defined in climate "subtropical" denotes a climate bearing tropical characteristics for a portion of the year without having frigid snowy winters. @logan5 Strewthless |
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Post by AJ1013 on Jan 9, 2020 20:28:05 GMT -5
No, as defined in climate "subtropical" denotes a climate bearing tropical characteristics for a portion of the year without having frigid snowy winters. Well that would depend on what classification your using - many systems don't make that distinction at all. Do you think that there is no such thing as subtropical vegetation or environments? I think that there is vegetation that is typical of subtropical climates (as many subtropical climates don't have cold winters and thus support evergreen broadleaf plants that would not be able to survive extended frigid conditions) but I do not think the existence of these plants definitively signifies a subtropical climate. I can grow a maple tree in Miami, that doesn't mean Miami has a continental climate. I'm not sure what you mean by a "subtropical environment" |
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