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Post by trolik on Jan 10, 2020 20:35:41 GMT -5
Nelson for better winters. The difference between 8 C and 12 C highs is huge (even the slightest breeze feels freezing to me at 8 C) and then there's a huge difference (about a hundred hours per month) in winter sunshine hours. And a stronger sun, longer daylight hours, etc. Motueka has 5C warmer highs in winter, while spring and autumn average 3.5C warmer for highs. Motueka is also quite a bit less breezy than London with an average windspeed of only 2.8 mph. Sun is a lot more in all seasons, with the sunniest summer month in London, still being cloudier than the cloudiest winter month in Motueka by % not overall hours.
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Post by Donar on Jan 11, 2020 9:55:28 GMT -5
Nelson for me. More sunshine and better winters. Summer nights are too chilly and I would miss thunderstorms there, otherwise a decent climate.
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Post by Dean York (Old) on Jan 25, 2020 15:48:57 GMT -5
Motueka for the extra sun hours. That's a huge amount of extra sun, and much stronger sun too. London is alright though, and is such a great city to be in during a warm summer.
I've just read through this thread. Loads of bickering obviously, but the one bit that stood out for me was trolik saying London gets 16 days of snow falling annually in the city, and 25-30 days on the outskirts.๐ฎ If anywhere in the greater London area sees more than 5 days I'd be shocked. We get less than 10 days of snow falling in York!
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Post by AJ1013 on Jan 25, 2020 16:07:44 GMT -5
Wow, London really wiped the floor with Motueka. Incredible because London is considered to be a terrible climate by most on here.
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Post by knot on Jan 25, 2020 16:21:07 GMT -5
Motueka for the extra sun hours. That's a huge amount of extra sun, and much stronger sun too. London is alright though, and is such a great city to be in during a warm summer. I've just read through this thread. Loads of bickering obviously, but the one bit that stood out for me was trolik saying London gets 16 days of snow falling annually in the city, and 25-30 days on the outskirts.๐ฎ If anywhere in the greater London area sees more than 5 days I'd be shocked. We get less than 10 days of snow falling in York! That was me, not trolik; a wild exagguration on my part! But does York really only see "less than 10 days of snow falling"? Birmingham sees 13 days of snow lying in a 24-hr period without melting (i.e. settled snow), so hard to believe that York receives so little.
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Post by Dean York (Old) on Jan 25, 2020 18:48:08 GMT -5
Motueka for the extra sun hours. That's a huge amount of extra sun, and much stronger sun too. London is alright though, and is such a great city to be in during a warm summer. I've just read through this thread. Loads of bickering obviously, but the one bit that stood out for me was trolik saying London gets 16 days of snow falling annually in the city, and 25-30 days on the outskirts.๐ฎ If anywhere in the greater London area sees more than 5 days I'd be shocked. We get less than 10 days of snow falling in York! That was me, not trolik; a wild exagguration on my part! Butย does York really only see "less than 10 days of snow falling"? Birmingham sees 13 days of snow lying in a 24-hr period without melting (i.e. settled snow), so hard to believe that York receives so little. Ah sorry, I was caught up reading between all the bickering! Yeah we hardly get any snow here in York. The Vale of York is very sheltered, and we often miss out on snow, whereas nearby locations such as Leeds, will have it. I would say it's probably closer to 5 days than 10 here too. So according to the images, York gets 5-10 days with snow on the ground, and 10-20 days with snow falling. I think locally it's certainly closer to the lower figures from each image.
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Post by trolik on Jan 25, 2020 19:15:10 GMT -5
Motueka for the extra sun hours. That's a huge amount of extra sun, and much stronger sun too. London is alright though, and is such a great city to be in during a warm summer. I've just read through this thread. Loads of bickering obviously, but the one bit that stood out for me was trolik saying London gets 16 days of snow falling annually in the city, and 25-30 days on the outskirts.๐ฎ If anywhere in the greater London area sees more than 5 days I'd be shocked. We get less than 10 days of snow falling in York! where on earth do i say that... if i did then my mistake but i just went through the thread and could not find me saying that. edit: nvm saw where you corrected yourself lol, trust me i know it doesnt snow a lot here
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Post by Dean York (Old) on Jan 26, 2020 3:41:14 GMT -5
Motueka for the extra sun hours. That's a huge amount of extra sun, and much stronger sun too. London is alright though, and is such a great city to be in during a warm summer. I've just read through this thread. Loads of bickering obviously, but the one bit that stood out for me was trolik saying London gets 16 days of snow falling annually in the city, and 25-30 days on the outskirts.๐ฎ If anywhere in the greater London area sees more than 5 days I'd be shocked. We get less than 10 days of snow falling in York! where on earth do i say that... if i did then my mistake but i just went through the thread and could not find me saying that. edit: nvm saw where you corrected yourself lol, trust me i know it doesnt snow a lot here Yeah sorry about that!
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Post by Hiromant on Jan 26, 2020 7:38:24 GMT -5
I'll go for Motueka on this one. Neither one has satisfying winters so may as well pick the more comfortable and sunny one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 14:26:29 GMT -5
Moteuka is much better: much sunnier, Warner winters. 40s isnโt really cold enough to feel wintry but cold enough to be in the way; mid 50s wonโt feel chilly with sun. Moteuka is wetter but given the higher sun Iโd guess precipitation duration isnโt longer. London isnโt worth the extra couple degrees in summerI don't think that extra couple of degrees F would translate to London feeling warmer - Motueka has a warmer average maximum over summer, and combined with more sun at a greater angle, much less wind, and slightly higher dewpoints, would feel warmer overall. Does it? What are the average highs?
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Post by AJ1013 on Jan 27, 2020 14:33:12 GMT -5
I don't think that extra couple of degrees F would translate to London feeling warmer - Motueka has a warmer average maximum over summer, and combined with more sun at a greater angle, much less wind, and slightly higher dewpoints, would feel warmer overall. Does it? What are the average highs? It does not lol.
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Post by Beercules on Jun 1, 2020 0:16:03 GMT -5
I would pick both London and Mouteka over Vancouver.
Reasons being as follows,
London has a warmer* summer, more/and/or better chance of storms, and both their winters are gay af. Mouteka is sunnier than either with far more palatable winters.
*Data seems to come from Vancouver Airport, on an island right on the coast, the CBD and inland suburbs are probably slightly warmer, but still no real improvement over London.
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Post by Strewthless on Jun 1, 2020 2:25:25 GMT -5
That was a random bump.
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Post by Strewthless on Jun 1, 2020 14:40:08 GMT -5
Whatever the case, the poll's active again and London once again takes the lead
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Post by ๐๐ฟMรถrรถn๐๐ฟ on Jun 3, 2020 14:50:51 GMT -5
Vancouver is much more preferable to me than Motueka, owing to its snowier and MUCH colder winters.
I wouldn't mind visiting Motueka though, especially for those muggy summers.
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Post by Beercules on Jun 3, 2020 16:15:34 GMT -5
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Post by ๐๐ฟMรถrรถn๐๐ฟ on Jun 3, 2020 16:37:50 GMT -5
You got that right. Also Motueka does not experience any cold. -6,6C is the record low.
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Post by knot on Jun 3, 2020 17:06:19 GMT -5
Unfortunately, my experience of Vancouver wasn't the snowy one. Not a huge difference in average minimums between here and Vancouver, with only a 0.3C difference in the coldest month I wouldn't call Motueka muggy, so much as stuffy. I'll have to disagree with you there: Vancouver's maxima are a whole 6ยฐ C colder than Motueka's. Minima don't matter at all, because cold mornings only last a short amount of time before they warm up to double digits, whereas cold maxima (like Vancouver's) are cold all day long. But I will also say that Motueka has more of a summer than Vanouver, due to being an un-broken summer; always warm in a Motueka summer, whereas in Vancouver cool summer days can disrupt the summery feel. Averages are the same in both, so looking at daily weather patterns is the deciding factor in this case.
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Post by Dean York (Old) on Jun 7, 2020 3:50:43 GMT -5
I have a mate who lives just north of Christchurch, and he loves the weather and lifestyle over there. He came back here for Christmas so I got to see him then, and he was saying how much better the weather is over there. If I didn't have kids here, I'd probably go myself tbh.
Christchurch might have better weather than Motueka though?
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Post by chesternz on Jun 7, 2020 4:52:17 GMT -5
I have a mate who lives just north of Christchurch, and he loves the weather and lifestyle over there. He came back here for Christmas so I got to see him then, and he was saying how much better the weather is over there. If I didn't have kids here, I'd probably go myself tbh. Christchurch might have better weather than Motueka though? I'm from ChCh. The weather there sucks. Maybe better than the UK but Motueka would be an improvement for sure. ChCh suffers from cold Easterly winds coming off the frigid ocean . Then there are the god awful Southwesterlies . Motueka probably has less of a problem with those. But ChCh's saving grace are the NW foehn winds that can bring anomalously warm weather any time of year. I don't think Motueka would benefit from those as it's way up in the NW corner of the South Island. Motueka may get fewer days over 30 C (not that ChCh gets many) but it's a bit warmer and sunnier on average. Most importantly, the water temps (in nearby Abel Tasman NP) are much warmer than the subantarctic sea off ChCh. This makes it much better for swimming. Used to love going there every Xmas / NYE with the family.
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