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Post by AJ1013 on Jan 4, 2020 21:16:54 GMT -5
The ultimate showdown... London:  Motueka (Take records with a pinch of salt, NIWA is totally incompetent):  |
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Post by Steelernation on Jan 4, 2020 21:18:20 GMT -5
London is much better. Drier, colder winters, warmer summers, more heatwaves, more snow.
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Post by trolik on Jan 4, 2020 21:19:18 GMT -5
LONDON TOWN
Much better summer which won't see a max of 16C
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Post by AJ1013 on Jan 4, 2020 21:19:23 GMT -5
London is clearly better in my opinion. Warmer, stormier, and more variable summers with colder, more variable, and snowier winters. Much more exciting overall despite still being a very shitty climate
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Post by tij on Jan 4, 2020 22:21:40 GMT -5
I prefer Motueka for being more vibrant in general, and for being significantly sunnier. Motueka's summer has cooler nights but is also sunnier and it's located at a lower latitude. London's vague snow potential doesn't seem to be worth its blandness imo. Still think winter storms in Motueka may be fascinating.
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Post by longaotian on Jan 4, 2020 23:22:35 GMT -5
Motueka - easily.
Warmer, wetter and far more sun.
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Post by Steelernation on Jan 4, 2020 23:36:01 GMT -5
I would say Motueka feels drier - Londoners here talk about the dampness of London compared to here Rain days are wrong - Motueka has 97 days>1mm. Sunshine is approx 2450 hours- allowing for average increase in NZ over the last 35 years, as Motueka hasn't recorded since 1984 Temperatures are from Nelson - Motueka averages about 1C warmer for maximums and 1C cooler for minimums over 12 months London gets more snow, but I'd rather live in a snowless part of a region that has 40% real snowcover, than live in a region where everywhere gets little snow for short periods on average London has 110 rain days vs. 97. That’s very similar but Motueka gets a lot more rain so it gets a lot more heavy rain. I’d much rather have drizzle than heavy rain. I don’t really care about sunshine. Even if the temps are different from the weather box, London still has colder winters and gets stronger heatwaves. For me I want falling snow, I don’t want to have to drive to experience snow. |
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Post by Steelernation on Jan 4, 2020 23:48:46 GMT -5
That's why I'd consider Motueka to be drier - because it rains less, and has warmer temperatures and more sunshine to dry things out - I think you might actually prefer London because it experiences more dampness. Can still get as much snow, colder winters, and stronger heatwaves in this area, than London gets Motueka would feel wetter to me because it gets a lot of heavy rain. And it is wetter, it gets a lot more rain. And those cold, snow and heat you talk about are in the area. Not in Motueka. And I’d have to drive to experience them. Every day when I step outside, it’s colder in London in winter, more likely to be hot in summer and less likely to have miserable weather—moderate or heavy rain. |
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Post by Steelernation on Jan 5, 2020 0:03:32 GMT -5
Less rain days and rain hours, and drier ground conditions equal "feeling wetter"? - not buying that. It's actually more likely to be hot in Motueka - more days over 25C than London 25 C isn’t hot. London gets over 30 c much more. Rain days are similar. Light rain isn’t that noticeable, when we get a drizzly day it doesn’t feel wet. Don’t even need a coat. When it’s a steady rain, it’s miserable and very wet. The difference is like a month with 8 days of moderate or heavy rain vs. a month with 9 days of light rain. Both happen here and I can tell you the 2nd feels drier and much much better to me. |
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Post by Steelernation on Jan 5, 2020 0:14:35 GMT -5
30C isn't hot either. I'll believe what Londoners living here tell me - London is a very damp place, here isn't. It's dampness you crave - that much is obvious. Dunedin is very comparable to London for wet days/rainfall/sunshine,and no one talks about Nelson feeling wetter than Dunedin 30 c feels hot enough. 25 c doesn’t. That’s all anecdotal. I don’t care about what others feel, I care about what I feel. What I crave is dryness and what I hate are rainy days, especially heavy rain. I guarantee Motueka has plenty more days with weather I hate where I’d be miserable. And London only has 13 more days. That’s basically 1 extra day a month. Barely noticeable. What is noticeable is when the falling rain is heavy vs. light. |
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Post by tij on Jan 5, 2020 0:22:06 GMT -5
25 C isn’t hot. London gets over 30 c much more. Rain days are similar. Light rain isn’t that noticeable, when we get a drizzly day it doesn’t feel wet. Don’t even need a coat. When it’s a steady rain, it’s miserable and very wet. The difference is like a month with 8 days of moderate or heavy rain vs. a month with 9 days of light rain. Both happen here and I can tell you the 2nd feels drier and much much better to me. 30C isn't hot either. I'll believe what Londoners living here tell me - London is a very damp place, here isn't. It's dampness you crave - that much is obvious. Dunedin is very comparable to London for wet days/rainfall/sunshine,and no one talks about Nelson feeling wetter than Dunedin. To be fair, Motueka seems noticeably wetter than Nelson as well, with about 1341mm of rain vs Nelson's 970mm. i.imgur.com/6OECZGZ.pngThe difference in rain days between Motueka and London is fairly small compared to the quite marked difference in annual precipitation, London has merely 600 mm. Moderate/Heavy Rain can also pose additional challenges to outdoor activities that drizzle does not, so believe precipitation would be more salient in Motueka than in London for most. |
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Post by Steelernation on Jan 5, 2020 0:25:17 GMT -5
But you obviously don't have a problem with dampness - you like damper conditions, and will take longer rainfall duration and slower drying time to achieve that. I pay attention to anecdotes when they are overwhelmingly consistent - I accept it when yet another Londoner say that summers here feel hotter, and I doubt you would find the reality any different I like drier conditions. Drizzle is closer to dryness than heavy rain. I don’t care at all about drying time or soil moisture or that stuff, it has no affect on what it feels like when I walk outside. I bet between two summers with similar averages I’d find one with a highest temp of 33 c and a couple days over 30 hotter than one that barely gets to 30 c. |
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Post by Steelernation on Jan 5, 2020 1:01:14 GMT -5
You say you like dryness, but prefer more mud over drier ground, and would take more rain days and/hours to achieve that - you might prefer drizzle, but you also prefer dampness. I think you would be like every one else, and find that a 20C, 25C, or 30C day here would typically feel hotter than the same day in London. Don’t care about mud vs. dry ground. Doesn’t matter. If I go outside and it’s dry and muddy or dry with dry ground, it feels the same: dry. What I care about is being outside and not having rain fall. It’s miserable being outside in heavy rain, drizzle is worse than no precipitation but not nearly as unpleasant. The difference between rain days is very small so it’s roughly equivalent how often it rains. The rain in Motueka is far worse. |
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Post by boombo on Jan 5, 2020 5:53:59 GMT -5
Motueka easily - warmer, more intense rain events, and more importantly much sunnier.
London doesn't get enough proper winter weather for that to be a factor, I'd rather have a spring-like Motueka winter than what London gets.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 6:17:12 GMT -5
I narrowly choose Motueka for being sunnier year-round and having milder winters, despite the cooler summers and record highs. If London had 200 more sunshine hours I would choose London.
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Post by nei on Jan 5, 2020 9:40:15 GMT -5
Moteuka is much better: much sunnier, Warner winters. 40s isn’t really cold enough to feel wintry but cold enough to be in the way; mid 50s won’t feel chilly with sun. Moteuka is wetter but given the higher sun I’d guess precipitation duration isn’t longer. London isn’t worth the extra couple degrees in summer
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Post by nei on Jan 5, 2020 9:42:51 GMT -5
London is clearly better in my opinion. Warmer, stormier, and more variable summers with colder, more variable, and snowier winters. Much more exciting overall despite still being a very shitty climate Iondon has drier summers, how do you get stormier? |
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Post by flamingGalah on Jan 5, 2020 9:48:02 GMT -5
Motueka for warmer winters & more sunshine
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Post by AJ1013 on Jan 5, 2020 10:07:53 GMT -5
London is clearly better in my opinion. Warmer, stormier, and more variable summers with colder, more variable, and snowier winters. Much more exciting overall despite still being a very shitty climate Iondon has drier summers, how do you get stormier? It has more thunderstorm days. |
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Post by Ariete on Jan 5, 2020 10:08:34 GMT -5
London, Ontario.
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