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Post by alex992 on Feb 5, 2021 11:05:15 GMT -5
Saskatoon just has epic cold in winter and holds a snowpack a long time, plus they do get some good thunderstorms there from time to time. Minneapolis gets a decent amount of thunderstorm days (same as you) and holds a snowpack better than Western PA. Milwaukee might actually rank lower than your climate however, so I may switch that out. Massachusetts does badly in terms of thunderstorm days, but it's not a bad climate. The relative lack of storms lowers the grade for me though. Also lol, look at how that 30 thunder days a year line just dicks Northern VA through the backdoor, clearly a thunderstorm hole there. Off topic, but I thought Hawaii would have more storms than that. Yeah, Hawaii gets a lot of thunderless rain for some reason, really lacks storms for a tropical location. Don't know why, might have something to do with currents, not enough land for a lot of instability, or something like that. According to this map, you do better than Milwaukee are about the same storm-wise as Minneapolis, definitely do better than Morningrise though. Saskatoon just has epic cold in winter and holds a snowpack a long time, plus they do get some good thunderstorms there from time to time. Minneapolis gets a decent amount of thunderstorm days (same as you) and holds a snowpack better than Western PA. Milwaukee might actually rank lower than your climate however, so I may switch that out. I think Winnipeg might be more suited to your preferences than Saskatoon - very similar climate overall but they have slightly hotter summer averages with warmer lows, higher humidity, and more intense heatwaves, and their winters appear to be more stable with fewer warmups than what we get (snowier as well, I think). Hmmmmmm.....I honestly don't mind the warm-ups Saskatoon gets in winter, because they're not usually crazy warm-ups to like 20 C temps, plus it just adds to the variability. Plus it looks like Saskatoon has a slightly lower record low than Winnipeg, so standard deviation is higher and cold waves are slightly stronger when comparing to averages. You're right though about the more humid / stormy summers in Winnipeg, and winters are noticeably snowier (90 cm average for Saskatoon vs. 115 cm for Winnipeg). I honestly completely forgot about Winnipeg (no offense, jetshnl lol) Jets hasn't been on here too long.
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Post by dunnowhattoputhere on Feb 5, 2021 11:08:14 GMT -5
Best: crunch41 (by far), Jose, Speagles84, Ariete, Apolonia
Worst: ChesterNZ (by far), Alex, TommyFL, Firebird (Phoenix)
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Post by alex992 on Feb 5, 2021 11:13:56 GMT -5
MET I'm surprised both Miami and Alexandria are only C/C+ for you - not enough of a cool season down here? Alexandria too dry in summer? For me - Best: Morningrise, Jose, crunch41, tij (when he's in Minneapolis) Worst: ChesterNZ, AJ, Firebird, Ben Shapiro, FG, myself. New list (for best): 1.) jetshnl (Winnipeg, MB) 2.) tij (when he's in Minneapolis) 3.) Morningrise (Saskatoon, SK) 4.) Speagles84 (Washington, PA) 5.) @josecanyousee97 (Appleton, WI) The list for worst remains the same, however.
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Post by firebird1988 on Feb 5, 2021 11:50:00 GMT -5
You should rate Riverside and Los Angeles, CA now for me as well, since I now spend 80% of the year out here Why do you work so far away from Phoenix? I know you're a driver, but still that seems very far to be constantly. It's where the job is. I'm out here 12 days every 2 weeks (including the day I drive out and the day I drive back). So I'm only in Phoenix 4 full days per month now. Using a sleeper truck and sleep in the sleeper except for the weekend I layover. That weekend, I get a hotel at company expense
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Post by P London on Feb 5, 2021 14:39:04 GMT -5
How did you work out the ratings to have Sheffield above London? Looking back at my spreadsheet, Sheffield scored higher by virtue of having a better precipitation total and distribution, as well as a higher record low, at least according to the numbers that were on Wikipedia at the time. Clearly shows that my formula could stand to be improved, considering London is clearly the better climate of the two. Sheffield has a higher record low? Are you sure?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2021 14:41:10 GMT -5
Looking back at my spreadsheet, Sheffield scored higher by virtue of having a better precipitation total and distribution, as well as a higher record low, at least according to the numbers that were on Wikipedia at the time. Clearly shows that my formula could stand to be improved, considering London is clearly the better climate of the two. Sheffield has a higher record low? Are you sure? According to the numbers on Wikipedia, Sheffield's record low is 15.4'F, and London's is -2.0'F.
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Post by dunnowhattoputhere on Feb 5, 2021 14:42:24 GMT -5
Areas within London’s modern-day boundaries have definitely gotten colder than Sheffield.
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Post by Strewthless on Feb 5, 2021 14:58:19 GMT -5
Sheffield's record low surprised me tbh, expected it to be lower than that.
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Post by Ariete on Feb 5, 2021 15:04:39 GMT -5
Wildcat
sari (KC) Speagles84 ilmc90
bizzy
Gior (Seoul) Urania93
Steelernation benfxmth/tarlife crunch/Jose
nei (Massachsetts) rozenn/Cadeau Adaminaby Angler AJ (Tucson) srfoskey jgtheone Joe90
B87/irlinit
Candle/deneb/rpvan ral31
Alex
Firebird Beercules Noodleman aabc123 Serafina
Thunderstorm Razza flamingGalah
greysrigging Morningrise Ariete
Baba kronan
Nidaros divisonbyzero0 Ben Shapiro
chesterNZ Boombo
Such a difference between me and my Baltic friends? We essentially have the same climate.
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Post by trolik on Feb 5, 2021 15:05:57 GMT -5
Sheffield has a higher record low? Are you sure? According to the numbers on Wikipedia, Sheffield's record low is 15.4'F, and London's is -2.0'F. the london record low is wrong, someone tampered with the table
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2021 16:57:37 GMT -5
I didn't realise how much cloudier and wetter Sheffield is than York. Coldest temperature ever recorded here was -17c in 2010, which is surprisingly wayyy colder than Sheffield's record. By English standards at least, Sheffield can get some huge amounts of snow too. Can't imagine there's many cities in England that can much them.
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Post by MET on Feb 5, 2021 17:25:40 GMT -5
I didn't realise how much cloudier and wetter Sheffield is than York. Coldest temperature ever recorded here was -17c in 2010, which is surprisingly wayyy colder than Sheffield's record. By English standards at least, Sheffield can get some huge amounts of snow too. Can't imagine there's many cities in England that can much them. Funny that we've had bugger all snow since I moved here then. Buxton was an English snow lover's paradise. TBH glad I'm not there anymore, as I'm not a snow lover. The higher cloud amount than York might be what stops temperatures dropping here as much as well.
Thinking about it, the Sheffield urban area covers a wide range of altitude. I am in a low area, but just a bit higher up a LOT more snow occurs. Notably on 14th January this year we had just 2cm or so but someone I know up the road at 650ft had about 8-10cm. Altitude makes a massive difference. They had even more snow than Buxton only because the snow band wasn't very heavy further west. Low parts of Sheffield are shit for snow.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2021 18:39:40 GMT -5
Sheffield has a higher record low? Are you sure? According to the numbers on Wikipedia, Sheffield's record low is 15.4'F, and London's is -2.0'F. Coldest at Heathrow is -13.2c. Coldest anywhere in London is -16.1c. That -2f figure is nonsense; it doesn't even appear in the reference given. The Sheffield record low of -14.6c was from a park in the city centre, St James's Park has a record low of -9c.
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Post by srfoskey on Feb 5, 2021 19:16:21 GMT -5
Best: frozeni69, crunch41, sari, wildcat Worst: thunderbird 1988, chesternz, alex992, Ben Shapiro
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2021 20:09:29 GMT -5
According to the numbers on Wikipedia, Sheffield's record low is 15.4'F, and London's is -2.0'F. Coldest at Heathrow is -13.2c. Coldest anywhere in London is -16.1c. That -2f figure is nonsense; it doesn't even appear in the reference given. The Sheffield record low of -14.6c was from a park in the city centre, St James's Park has a record low of -9c. Fixed. This has the effect of raising London's score to 2.07, making it come in above Sheffield, as it deserves to.
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Post by Cevven on Feb 5, 2021 23:19:44 GMT -5
Best possible score is 4.00 Miami ( alex992 ): 3.13 Raleigh ( Cevven , Yahya Sinwar ): 2.93 Perffffff ( Moron ): 2.93 Bandung (@rg6832614 ): 2.93* Melbourne ( jgtheone , caspase8 ): 2.78** Phoenix ( firebird1988 ): 2.26 Milwaukee ( Crunch41 ): 2.16 Sheffield ( MET ): 2.04*** London ( trolik , @b87 , irlinit , P London ): 2.02 Appleton (@josecanyousee97 /myself): 1.99 Vancouver ( rpvan , 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 ): 1.98 Gothenburg ( kronan ): 1.79 Winnipeg ( jetshnl ): 1.16 Saskatoon ( Morningrise ): 1.04 *Pekanbaru is missing sun hour data and as such I can't assign it a final grade per my formula, but I'd imagine it would end up similar to Bandung. **It got a LOT better with the new normals, in which two months have 80'F average highs as opposed to 0. ***Not sure how Sheffield scored higher than London considering it's quite clearly worse. Also surprised Perfff scores as low as it does, but then again its summers are hideously devoid of precipitation. You should rate Riverside and Los Angeles, CA now for me as well, since I now spend 80% of the year out here Not bad. I like this. One question, though, what about Raleigh's climate you like and dislike based on your rating of it?
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Post by Doña Jimena on Feb 6, 2021 5:13:10 GMT -5
Wildcat
sari (KC) Speagles84 ilmc90
bizzy
Gior (Seoul) Urania93
Steelernation benfxmth/tarlife crunch/Jose
nei (Massachsetts) rozenn/Cadeau Adaminaby Angler AJ (Tucson) srfoskey jgtheone Joe90
B87/irlinit
Candle/deneb/rpvan ral31
Alex
Firebird Beercules Noodleman aabc123 Serafina
Thunderstorm Razza flamingGalah
greysrigging Morningrise Ariete
Baba kronan
Nidaros divisonbyzero0 Ben Shapiro
chesterNZ Boombo
Such a difference between me and my Baltic friends? We essentially have the same climate. Me is Balto-Slavic, you both are Finno-Ugric.
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Post by aabc123 on Feb 6, 2021 5:51:13 GMT -5
Such a difference between me and my Baltic friends? We essentially have the same climate. Me is Balto-Slavic, you both are Finno-Ugric. It is off-topic but I think I'm mostly only in terms of language "Finno-Ugric". Even Lithuanians are genetically more "Finno- ugric" than I am.
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Post by Doña Jimena on Feb 6, 2021 6:01:14 GMT -5
Me is Balto-Slavic, you both are Finno-Ugric. It is off-topic but I think I'm mostly only in terms of language "Finno-Ugric". Even Lithuanians are genetically more "Finno- ugric" than I am. I meant languages of course. I haven't gone as deep as underlining genetic differences. 😀 Don't take it that seriosly please.
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Post by aabc123 on Feb 6, 2021 6:10:50 GMT -5
It is off-topic but I think I'm mostly only in terms of language "Finno-Ugric". Even Lithuanians are genetically more "Finno- ugric" than I am. I meant languages of course. I haven't gone as deep as underlining genetic differences. 😀 Don't take it that seriosly please. And my common sense tells me that I am simply objectively more connected to my neighboring peoples than, for example, the Maris or the Khanty or whoever who live thousands km from here. That is why I personally have not taken all these Finno-Ugric stories very super seriously.
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