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Post by jgtheone on Feb 14, 2022 8:32:18 GMT -5
Got my results today as well. Bit underwhelming tbh, a large part of it just says "Eastern European" and doesn't explain any further so I feel cheated. I want to know where in Eastern Europe! Looks to my like you should be able to click on it to get further detail? If you go to "See all tested populations" you should get a complete breakdown. Although you're right in that it doesn't give percentages, but if I click on my 3.1% eastern European I get Russia as the only likely match, and it gives me a map with color graded regions based on likelyness. They identified my specific county in Scandinavia for example. Not a percentage but still kinda useful I guess. I only get this when I click on it: Further explained here: Maybe I was created in a test tube in Moscow or something.
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Post by Babu on Feb 14, 2022 9:19:33 GMT -5
Looks to my like you should be able to click on it to get further detail? If you go to "See all tested populations" you should get a complete breakdown. Although you're right in that it doesn't give percentages, but if I click on my 3.1% eastern European I get Russia as the only likely match, and it gives me a map with color graded regions based on likelyness. They identified my specific county in Scandinavia for example. Not a percentage but still kinda useful I guess. I only get this when I click on it: Further explained here: Maybe I was created in a test tube in Moscow or something. Oh well that sucks
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Post by Strewthless on Feb 14, 2022 10:47:14 GMT -5
I'm sure this exercise is more interesting for Americans. I don't need to pay a heap of money to learn that my family are all inbred aside from the occasional farmyard animal that managed to sneak into the gene pool.
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Post by Doña Jimena on Feb 14, 2022 16:39:02 GMT -5
I got my 23andme results back and strangely enough my results are as if my paternal grandfather was eradicated from my DNA, and instead of 1/4 belonging to each grandparent, I've instead got 1/3 from each of my three grandparents. Which is ironic since those three I know quite a lot about ancestorywise, and it was my paternal grandfather in particular that I was curious about. The total percentage 23andme has given me that I don't know for a fact comes from the other grandparents, is 4.9% (and those are just nonspecific stuff like broadly NW European, broadly European, British & Irish, Italian and "Trace"), and despite knowing for a fact that he was German with some Polish heritage, I have 0% from both Germany and Poland according to 23andme. They only had 3.1% Eastern European, all of which was deemed Russian, but that would be my maternal grandmother's russian grandfather. The obvious thing you're gonna say is someone cheated or whatever, but I know for a fact that he was my real grandfather because he had a rare heritable disease that both my dad and one of my aunts inherited. And I'm extremely similar to my dad, I remember when I was a kid and I saw a black&white photo and asked my parents when the photo of me was taken because I couldn't remember it, and was told it was a photo of my father, not me. But hey, at least they're telling me I'll likely not go bald 🤷♂️ You have not told what is your paternal and maternal haplogroup, it is very important and I can interpret it, if you wish. You do not have 0% German. Broadly NW European can be German, in addition Germans get Scandinavian and British on a regular basis. Yes, the percentage is small, but more likely your grandfather is more mixed than you think. Otherwise, you get approximately 25% from each grandparent, not exactly. The exact 50% come from a parent, but then starts a lottery. Technically it can be 40% from grandmother and 10% from grandfather. Update: your paternal haplogroup looks very Germanic, typical in British isles, Scandinavia, Germany. Nothing Slavic at all. Your maternal haplogroup is very rare for Sweden. It is either Middle Eastern or Eastern European. Most oftenly found in ... Iraq. Read more: haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l123456/l23456/l2346/l346/l34/l3/n/n2/w/w6/
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Post by Doña Jimena on Feb 14, 2022 16:45:34 GMT -5
Got my results today as well. Bit underwhelming tbh, a large part of it just says "Eastern European" and doesn't explain any further so I feel cheated. I want to know where in Eastern Europe! You look like someone from North Balkans. Basically Eastern Europe was added to cancel Greek. You are highly likely just 100% southern Slav from former Yugoslavia. Paternal and maternal haplogroups?
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Post by jgtheone on Feb 15, 2022 4:54:33 GMT -5
Got my results today as well. Bit underwhelming tbh, a large part of it just says "Eastern European" and doesn't explain any further so I feel cheated. I want to know where in Eastern Europe! You look like someone from North Balkans. Basically Eastern Europe was added to cancel Greek. You are highly likely just 100% southern Slav from former Yugoslavia. Paternal and maternal haplogroups? Maternal = H1b Paternal = R-PF7558
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Post by Doña Jimena on Feb 15, 2022 6:34:22 GMT -5
You look like someone from North Balkans. Basically Eastern Europe was added to cancel Greek. You are highly likely just 100% southern Slav from former Yugoslavia. Paternal and maternal haplogroups? Maternal = H1b Paternal = R-PF7558 I am H too, but another H, H29. Which is not rare, H is the most common European maternal haplogroup. Read more about H1b: haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l123456/l23456/l2346/l346/l34/l3/n/r/r0/hv/h/h1/h1b/Your paternal haplogroup seems Balkan, but it is not common in northern Balkans like your autosomal results indicate (I can guess that you are Croatian), but your haplogroup is more typical for Albanians, Turks, Italians and just very rare in Serbs and Romanians: www.yfull.com/tree/R-PF7562/NB. Autosomal results show last 200-300 years, while haplogroups show thousands of years back, so results can be contradictory.
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Post by Doña Jimena on Feb 15, 2022 6:43:16 GMT -5
23&me are trying to guess countries and even regions of countries, but from my experience they are not correct. They give Poland and Russia for me, while I know that I am Ukrainian and have my documents which clearly speak a different story. One more thing. It is a mistake to ignore the section DNA relatives, go there and maybe you will find a close cousin. To the left there is an option to see ancestor birthplaces of your matches. This is actually more telling than countries and regions 23&me gives you. Ancestor birthplaces of my matches: USA can be ignored, because 23&me customers are mostly Americans, but then the rest of countries and Ukraine being on the top makes very much sense to me.
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Post by jgtheone on Feb 15, 2022 6:51:20 GMT -5
Maternal = H1b Paternal = R-PF7558 I am H too, but another H, H29. Which is not rare, H is the most common European maternal haplogroup. Read more about H1b: haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l123456/l23456/l2346/l346/l34/l3/n/r/r0/hv/h/h1/h1b/Your paternal haplogroup seems Balkan, but it is not common in northern Balkans like your autosomal results indicate (I can guess that you are Croatian), but your haplogroup is more typical for Albanians, Turks, Italians and just very rare in Serbs and Romanians: www.yfull.com/tree/R-PF7562/NB. Autosomal results show last 200-300 years, while haplogroups show thousands of years back, so results can be contradictory. Thanks for the explanation. I know the lineage mostly on my mum's side, I did the test because I don't know my dad's side that well. All I know that is he is a Croat who was born in Sarajevo, and I know nothing about his parents. That's why I was disappointed with the 'Eastern European' thing because I really wanted to uncover more about that side of the family. I might also try the DNA relatives thing to see if that helps any further.
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Post by Doña Jimena on Feb 15, 2022 7:05:40 GMT -5
I know the lineage mostly on my mum's side, I did the test because I don't know my dad's side that well. All I know that is he is a Croat who was born in Sarajevo, and I know nothing about his parents. That's why I was disappointed with the 'Eastern European' thing because I really wanted to uncover more about that side of the family. I might also try the DNA relatives thing to see if that helps any further. It is the best if you can test your father or his brother or sister. Contact your closest DNA matches and mention where your parents are from asking if they can share their locations. For example, I didn't know the birth place of my maternal grandmother. But the closest DNA match on 23&me had ancestors from that small town and bingo I could find the church record of my maternal grandmother based on that! In any case, your paternal haplogroup shows that your father's paternal lineage had absolutely nothing in common with northern and northwestern neighbors of Croats, but a lots of common with Albanians and Turks. It can be that your ancestors were actually Muslims.
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Post by Ariete on Feb 15, 2022 12:00:02 GMT -5
Lol JG the Albanian
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Post by Ethereal on Feb 15, 2022 19:37:36 GMT -5
I got tested back in 2015. Here are the results:
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Post by Doña Jimena on Feb 16, 2022 13:05:13 GMT -5
I got tested back in 2015. Here are the results: Are these the newest results? Ancestry.com has updated several times since 2015. In any case, you are clearly from the Middle East.
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Post by Ethereal on Feb 16, 2022 17:16:59 GMT -5
I got tested back in 2015. Here are the results: Are these the newest results? Ancestry.com has updated several times since 2015. In any case, you are clearly from the Middle East. I think so? When I checked my results back in 2015 it had Italy/Greece at 15%. Now that region is not there anymore. Not sure why they're changing and adjusting regions when I haven't redone a test or anything...
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Post by Doña Jimena on Feb 17, 2022 6:22:38 GMT -5
Are these the newest results? Ancestry.com has updated several times since 2015. In any case, you are clearly from the Middle East. I think so? When I checked my results back in 2015 it had Italy/Greece at 15%. Now that region is not there anymore. Not sure why they're changing and adjusting regions when I haven't redone a test or anything... They are changing the results, because as more people test, it becomes more clear which DNA combinations are typical for each ethnicity. You still get Cyprus which shows a possibility of European. If I could guess, I say your ancestors are mostly from Iraq.
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Post by Ethereal on Feb 17, 2022 20:33:03 GMT -5
I think so? When I checked my results back in 2015 it had Italy/Greece at 15%. Now that region is not there anymore. Not sure why they're changing and adjusting regions when I haven't redone a test or anything... They are changing the results, because as more people test, it becomes more clear which DNA combinations are typical for each ethnicity. You still get Cyprus which shows a possibility of European. If I could guess, I say your ancestors are mostly from Iraq. That's correct, northern Iraq to be precise and also southeastern Turkey in Hakkari. Btw, the word "Hakkari" is Assyrian/Akkadian for "farmer".
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Post by Doña Jimena on Apr 13, 2022 16:35:23 GMT -5
Ancestry.com has updated.
71% Eastern Europe
28% Balkans
1% Aegean islands
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 18:52:26 GMT -5
23andMe results:
51.3% Ashkenazi Jewish
32.0% Eastern European
16.4% Northwestern European
0.3% Broadly European
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Post by jgtheone on Apr 14, 2022 4:25:00 GMT -5
23&me are trying to guess countries and even regions of countries, but from my experience they are not correct. They give Poland and Russia for me, while I know that I am Ukrainian and have my documents which clearly speak a different story. One more thing. It is a mistake to ignore the section DNA relatives, go there and maybe you will find a close cousin. To the left there is an option to see ancestor birthplaces of your matches. This is actually more telling than countries and regions 23&me gives you. Ancestor birthplaces of my matches: USA can be ignored, because 23&me customers are mostly Americans, but then the rest of countries and Ukraine being on the top makes very much sense to me. Finally did this. Pretty interesting. Italy and Poland surprise me, but my grandma (on my mothers side) could honestly pass as a pole or other central European.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2022 12:39:34 GMT -5
Cool results
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