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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 8:24:17 GMT -5
Das Gheyhommo  -snip- Proves there really are a lot of polar foamers on Australian weather sites  , that distribution seems about right for what people like around here too, there's very little cold tolerance and very little heat tolerance among most people. |
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Post by Babu on Jan 13, 2021 12:03:02 GMT -5
Just LOL @ the climate section of Blackheath…that editor's got a point, though 👍🏻  What a shitty wikipedia edit oozing of personal opinion and projection as well as completely irrelevant comments. |
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Post by Donar on Jan 13, 2021 12:07:39 GMT -5
interesting that Mount Washington was only the coldest 20 times; surprised Saranac Lake is absent. Western frost hollows show up a lot Interesting! Do you know when southern Oregon was the warmest of the country? |
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Post by alex992 on Jan 13, 2021 13:02:13 GMT -5
interesting that Mount Washington was only the coldest 20 times; surprised Saranac Lake is absent. Western frost hollows show up a lot So it officially hit 130 F (54.4 C) at Death Valley last summer? Nice! As far as I know, it's the first official 130 F reading there in history (given the 134 F / 56.7 C not being official). Also, nice to see extreme cold in the Colorado Rockies. Also interesting the temperature spread in the lower 48 for last year was exactly 100 C (180 F). |
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Post by Babu on Jan 13, 2021 13:09:27 GMT -5
Holy shit. I just found a website where you can download soo much daily data from sooo many of the stations in Europe!! Including sunshine data for Sweden that you can't even get from SMHI's services! All for free! What the actual fuck this is actual bliss eca.knmi.nl/dailydata |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 16:22:16 GMT -5
Just LOL @ the climate section of Blackheath…that editor's got a point, though 👍🏻 -large image snipped- What a shitty wikipedia edit oozing of personal opinion and projection as well as completely irrelevant comments. That's how most of Wikipedia is, though. You wanna see grown-ass 60-year-old men act like they aren't out of high school? Go on Wikipedia, especially the "drama boards" which are called that for a reason! |
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Post by knot on Jan 13, 2021 17:02:08 GMT -5
Proves there really are a lot of polar foamers on Australian weather sites , that distribution seems about right for what people like around here too, there's very little cold tolerance and very little heat tolerance among most people. The related WeatherZone article to that poll was written by Anthony Sharwood—a Ski.com.au member (by far the largest weather forum in Australia). Goes by the username, Ramshead, on Ski; this page is how I found out. Very high polar foamer count on there! |
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Post by omegaraptor on Jan 16, 2021 2:11:30 GMT -5
 The Central Coast of CA is capable of some extreme summer variability. September 2020 in San Luis Obispo looks like it could have taken place in coastal South Australia. Beercules jgtheone knot |
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Post by Beercules on Jan 16, 2021 2:27:59 GMT -5
^^^ I was just about to say the same thing upon seeing that. 46C on day, 22C the next. Looks like standard summer found slightly inland in SW Vic or SE SA.
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Post by Babu on Jan 16, 2021 6:35:49 GMT -5
The Central Coast of CA is capable of some extreme summer variability. September 2020 in San Luis Obispo looks like it could have taken place in coastal South Australia. Beercules jgtheone knot I feel like Australia get negative deviations too. The california coast tends to have extremely stable weather apart from brief extreme heat, whereas Australia tends to be a bit more all over the place. |
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Post by Babu on Jan 16, 2021 7:03:54 GMT -5
This is 2020 at Adelaideairport and Oakland airport Adelaide:  Oakland:  There are similarities, but they're still markedly different in their temperature swing behavior. |
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Post by Beercules on Jan 16, 2021 7:20:25 GMT -5
^^^ Where did you get those graphs from?
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Post by Babu on Jan 16, 2021 7:23:03 GMT -5
^^^ Where did you get those graphs from? Weatherspark.com Oh shit, I accidentally wrote Albany; I meant Adelaide airport. |
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Post by Beercules on Jan 16, 2021 8:14:39 GMT -5
^^^ Where did you get those graphs from? Weatherspark.com Oh shit, I accidentally wrote Albany; I meant Adelaide airport. Fuck, I was convinced that cold gay bullshit was from Albany. |
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Post by Beercules on Jan 18, 2021 0:29:01 GMT -5
Who's ready to throw up from an overconsumption of bullshit?www.weatherzone.com.au/news/heat-refuges-may-be-one-solution-to-western-sydneys-climate-emergency/533275
Ian Epondulan knows the heatwaves well.
The 31-year-old has lived in Western Sydney his entire life, and often dreads the summer months.
On the really sweltering days, the oral health therapist and his family often take refuge in an air-conditioned 24-hour shopping centre in Blacktown.
The family do have air-conditioning at their Seven Hills home that they rent, but the cost of running it is prohibitive.
"The option to drive 15 minutes and get immediate relief is just a better option," Mr Epondulan said.
"Walking through those doors, you just sigh."
Last summer, Western Sydney residents sweated through 37 days over 35 degrees Celsius and today, the mercury is expected to reach 37C in some areas.
Heat is causing major headaches for Sydney's most populous local government area, Blacktown, which is trying to convince organisations to create "heat refuges".
A heat refuges is a cool zone with good air-conditioning and facilities where the community can go on an extreme heat day to comfortably relax for hours at a time if they cannot at home.
Our Lady of Lourdes, where Mr Epondulan is an active member, has signed up, meaning they have offered the air-conditioned church and a nearby hall as venues that would become go-to places on high heat days for the local community to gather at ? with toilets, comfortable seating and cold water close by.
"Now it's up to the council to find the places in this local government area where they can send people on those extreme hot days as heat refuges," he said.
A Blacktown City Council spokesperson told the ABC the heat refuge program is in the strategy stages and will begin a trial in coming weeks as it creates a shortlist of potential venues.
"The aim of the strategy is to ensure vulnerable residents, like those who are elderly or living with disability and without air-conditioning, can access shelter from extreme heat and heatwaves," they said.
Blacktown City Council declared a climate emergency in February last year, and is committed to zero net emissions by 2040.
Hot days ? maximum temperatures above 35C ? are expected to increase across the state by an average of 26 days per year according to the NSW Government Office of Environment and Heritage.
Teacher Zubaida Alrubai, 27, who lives in Mt Druitt with her parents and two siblings, believes more should be done to keep Sydney's west cool.
"Clean and affordable energy is one of the key priorities for migrant communities and people of colour, particularly with so many people renting in the west," she said.
Her father Adid works as a school bus driver, but despite the multiple incomes, paying the power bill ? which can top $800 per quarter if they use the air-conditioning ? can be tough. Like many other families they escape the heat and keep down costs by heading to the mall, community centres or the library.
"Right now, the idea of creating heat refuges I think is the best option as it's affordable and no-one needs to invest upfront," Ms Alrubai said.
Riverstone GP Kim Loo, the NSW chair of an advocacy group for medical professionals, Doctors for the Environment Australia, said heat had a "domino effect" on a peoples' health. Hot weather disrupts peoples sleep and exercise routines, which Dr Loo says could increase the health inequality gap already seen in Sydney's west.
"I'm getting more and more comments around not being able to exercise," she said.
"As a doctor you feel like there's only so much you can do in primary care when the environment around you is fundamentally changing."
She is concerned vulnerable people, like the elderly, will not be able to manage their health during heatwaves.
"If you can't exercise when it's too hot, you'll become unfit, if there's no cool spaces to gather, you become increasingly isolated," she said.
Anoop Sud and his wife Neeru are in that category. In the 46 years of their marriage they've taken a daily walk outside together after meals to stay active but in the past year, that?s been disrupted.
Despite living in a new house with solar panels in Stanhope Gardens, Mr Sud, 72, says he still can't afford to turn his air-conditioning on. Last year, when the mercury reached 44.5C on February 1, Mr Sud said he was short of breath. Mr Sud says he's looking forward to having a government-designated place to go.
"It will be nice to have a place where you can talk comfortably with a friend and be able to go to the toilet," he said.
"At the park, the library and even at a busy mall, that's not always possible."
- ABC
© ABC 2021
Jesus, wonder how people in the tropics, southern USA, the middle east and around the Med deal with life?! And what's the bet that these whingers who are apparently paying $800 per quarter to run their aircon set the thing to 18C and turn it on when its 25C outside?
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Post by jgtheone on Jan 18, 2021 0:44:05 GMT -5
Lmao these mfs are from Pakistan and Philippines and shit and act like they have never experienced the heat. Come on man
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Post by Babu on Jan 18, 2021 3:24:09 GMT -5
Maybe comfort is more of an expectation in first world countries than in third world countries. 40'C temperatures are dangerous to certain people. Just because you can handle 40'C, or because people in some shitty third world country has to endure it regularly, doesn't mean it's meaningless to do anything about it in a first world country. Old people in Sweden die regularly due to heat exhaustion, even when it's just 25'C-30'C outside.
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Post by greysrigging on Jan 18, 2021 3:46:57 GMT -5
Maybe comfort is more of an expectation in first world countries than in third world countries. 40'C temperatures are dangerous to certain people. Just because you can handle 40'C, or because people in some shitty third world country has to endure it regularly, doesn't mean it's meaningless to do anything about it in a first world country. Old people in Sweden die regularly due to heat exhaustion, even when it's just 25'C-30'C outside. That is true.... its all about being acclimatised !. Trust me, Australian tier 1 Construction Companies take heat exhaustion and heat stroke very seriously ( after all, God, in his ( or her ) infinite wisdom did not put large deposits of oil, natural gas, gold, copper, iron ore, coal, uranium, lithium etc on the Sunshine or Gold Coasts, or in rural Victoria or Tassie or the Snowy Mountains.... oh no,all the rich minerals and resources are out in the middle of the extreme Outback and Northern Tropics.... ) We have regular tests for dehydration, 'colour of urine' charts, sanctioned shade breaks, even the shithouses are airconditioned ! I have seen unacclimatised co workers go down with heat illness.... not nice.... |
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Post by jgtheone on Jan 18, 2021 4:26:07 GMT -5
Maybe comfort is more of an expectation in first world countries than in third world countries. 40'C temperatures are dangerous to certain people. Just because you can handle 40'C, or because people in some shitty third world country has to endure it regularly, doesn't mean it's meaningless to do anything about it in a first world country. Old people in Sweden die regularly due to heat exhaustion, even when it's just 25'C-30'C outside. I'm not saying the temperatures aren't dangerous. Just that many of these people formerly lived in very hot countries. Unless they've been here for 20+ years or something, then I don't personally understand the complaints. I imagine that there are very very few aircon-less houses and apartments in Western Sydney as well, and places like large shopping centres and cinemas are traditionally places to go on very hot days. If they expect comfort, then fair enough. There is plenty to be found here. |
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Post by Babu on Jan 18, 2021 5:29:01 GMT -5
Maybe comfort is more of an expectation in first world countries than in third world countries. 40'C temperatures are dangerous to certain people. Just because you can handle 40'C, or because people in some shitty third world country has to endure it regularly, doesn't mean it's meaningless to do anything about it in a first world country. Old people in Sweden die regularly due to heat exhaustion, even when it's just 25'C-30'C outside. I'm not saying the temperatures aren't dangerous. Just that many of these people formerly lived in very hot countries. Unless they've been here for 20+ years or something, then I don't personally understand the complaints. I imagine that there are very very few aircon-less houses and apartments in Western Sydney as well, and places like large shopping centres and cinemas are traditionally places to go on very hot days. If they expect comfort, then fair enough. There is plenty to be found here. I know people from India who hated the summers back home and much prefer the climate in Umeå. I think people living in hot third world countries hate the heat just as much as people in milder first world countries. I think the only difference is people living in third world countries have less control over the climate they experience, so it makes less sense to complain about it as it's a "what can you do" type of thing (as well as people generally not being that old of course). I don't really understand the point you're trying to make in your second sentence. Wasn't that exactly what they said in the article? That they don't have A/C, and that they normally take refuge in large shopping centres etc., but because of the pandemic they can't really do that. At least that's what I got from the article. I didn't read the article in detail though; I mostly skimmed through it, so it might be that I've misinterpreted the article and what they're saying. |
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, that distribution seems about right for what people like around here too, there's very little cold tolerance and very little heat tolerance among most people.
