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Post by Met.Data on May 26, 2021 14:41:37 GMT -5
That was like a worse-case scenario example. It would be possible in the many higher parts of northern England. Would be a big record if that happened in London though! The coldest summer month on record in London was June 1972, which was actually colder than the month above!
Avg max: 17.5c
Avg min: 9.0c Rainfall: 15.4mm Sunshine: 166.3 hours
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 14:57:34 GMT -5
The coldest summer month on record in London was June 1972, which was actually colder than the month above!
Avg max: 17.5c
Avg min: 9.0c Rainfall: 15.4mm Sunshine: 166.3 hours
Surprisingly dry month that looks like. Dry, but very cold and cloudy. A poor summer overall, with the July/August period only averaging 22c. |
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Post by rozenn on May 26, 2021 15:36:25 GMT -5
That was like a worse-case scenario example. It would be possible in the many higher parts of northern England. Would be a big record if that happened in London though! The coldest summer month on record in London was June 1972, which was actually colder than the month above!
Avg max: 17.5c
Avg min: 9.0c Rainfall: 15.4mm Sunshine: 166.3 hours
That's astoundingly bad. |
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Post by Ethereal on Jun 1, 2021 1:58:17 GMT -5
For the Aussies in here...
If the Great Dividing Range didn't exist, would Sydney be hotter or colder?
Just curious...
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Post by knot on Jun 1, 2021 2:04:54 GMT -5
For the Aussies in here... If the Great Dividing Range didn't exist, would Sydney be hotter or colder? Just curious... Much colder and wetter. |
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Post by Ethereal on Jun 1, 2021 2:10:20 GMT -5
For the Aussies in here... If the Great Dividing Range didn't exist, would Sydney be hotter or colder? Just curious... Much colder and wetter. Then thank God for them!  I used to think the GDR somewhat "shielded" us from the extreme interior heat, but now I think this wouldn't be the case because of the Fohn winds (as you told me before), which warm shit up. So by colder and wetter you mean a chance of some snow in the winter? |
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Post by knot on Jun 1, 2021 2:19:21 GMT -5
Then thank God for them! I used to think the GDR somewhat "shielded" us from the extreme interior heat, but now I think this wouldn't be the case because of the Fohn winds (as you told me before), which warm shit up. So by colder and wetter you mean a chance of some snow in the winter? Most certainly NOT; 33°–34° S and sea-level is just not gonna make it work. Even Forbes @ 240 m 33° S struggles to get snowfall these days (mainly sleet at the best of times)…the westerly belt is just deader than a dead dingo's dongah. As for the record highs, I reckon Sydney's would be not greater than 42° C. |
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Post by Beercules on Jun 1, 2021 2:30:00 GMT -5
For the Aussies in here... If the Great Dividing Range didn't exist, would Sydney be hotter or colder? Just curious... Colder for sure. |
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Post by Ethereal on Jun 1, 2021 2:35:23 GMT -5
Then thank God for them! I used to think the GDR somewhat "shielded" us from the extreme interior heat, but now I think this wouldn't be the case because of the Fohn winds (as you told me before), which warm shit up. So by colder and wetter you mean a chance of some snow in the winter? Most certainly NOT; 33°–34° S and sea-level is just not gonna make it work. Even Forbes @ 240 m 33° S struggles to get snowfall these days (mainly sleet at the best of times)…the westerly belt is just deader than a dead dingo's dongah. As for the record highs, I reckon Sydney's would be not greater than 42° C. What about record lows in say Penrith or Camden, the far west? The mountains (Blue Mountains) trap cold air in the valleys, right? So without the mountains, this means relatively warmer nights there? And how wet would the CBD be? I'm assuming the winters would be rather wet, so upping the annual rainfall gauge to say 1300mm at most? Western suburbs probably around 1,000-1100mm? I love this hypothetical weather debate. Raises some interesting stuff.  |
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Post by knot on Jun 1, 2021 2:50:27 GMT -5
What about record lows in say Penrith or Camden, the far west? The mountains (Blue Mountains) trap cold air in the valleys, right? So without the mountains, this means relatively warmer nights there? And how wet would the CBD be? I'm assuming the winters would be rather wet, so upping the annual rainfall gauge to say 1300mm at most? Western suburbs probably around 1,000-1100mm? I love this hypothetical weather debate. Raises some interesting stuff. Yep, winters would also be significantly cloudier without the GDR, further increasing minima. I'd reckon about 1,500 mm annually for the CBD and 1,200 mm for the western suburbs. Additionally, Jul would max out at just 16° C as opposed to 18° C; and Jan at 25° C down from 27° C (assuming 1991–2020). So overall about 2° C cooler. |
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Post by Ethereal on Jun 1, 2021 7:54:46 GMT -5
^Holy crap!
Thank goodness for the mighty GDR, seriously!
I mean, Sydney's climate (a B for me) will be like a C- (or D+ in a bad year) if it weren't for them. Yikes!
(Now I'm thinking of making a fictional climate thread for Sydney without GDR Lol)
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Post by jgtheone on Jun 1, 2021 9:09:04 GMT -5
If this thing just moves up 2 millimetres...   |
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Post by Ethereal on Jun 2, 2021 20:17:51 GMT -5
^You mean the cut-off low?
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Post by tommyFL on Jun 3, 2021 1:01:36 GMT -5
Frequency of daily low temp occurring in the afternoon (12 PM to 6 PM) by month at Miami (MIA) and Orlando (MCO). Average are 1991-2020. alex992 Benfxmth desiccatedi85 |
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Post by jgtheone on Jun 3, 2021 5:17:36 GMT -5
^You mean the cut-off low? Yeah, like 2mm up on the chart lol. Looking good now: |
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Jun 3, 2021 8:37:48 GMT -5
Frequency of daily low temp occurring in the afternoon (12 PM to 6 PM) by month at Miami (MIA) and Orlando (MCO). Average are 1991-2020. alex992 Benfxmth desiccatedi85 Cool chart. Nice to see the stark difference between the wet and dry seasons. I bet it's even more extreme for a place with insignificant diurnal variation such as Key West. |
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Post by tommyFL on Jun 3, 2021 10:42:37 GMT -5
Cool chart. Nice to see the stark difference between the wet and dry seasons. I bet it's even more extreme for a place with insignificant diurnal variation such as Key West. No, because most of Key West's summer rain doesn't happen in the afternoon.  |
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Post by FrozenI69 on Jun 8, 2021 8:46:05 GMT -5
So how accurate would this comparison be:  |
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Post by Benfxmth on Jun 8, 2021 9:02:15 GMT -5
What a map this is. To start with, southern Texas has FAR more variable winters than Malta, and also much warmer, wetter summers & shoulder seasons, and southern Florida is FAR more seasonal than Jakarta.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 14:22:14 GMT -5
So how accurate would this comparison be: -map snipped- Very, very simplified to the point of being almost comically inaccurate. |
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