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Post by Ariete on Jun 30, 2021 12:19:21 GMT -5
It's better to compare how much they broke the previous record, or the deviation from average monthly maximum rather than the deviation from the average high
Sure, but I don't have that info. The previous June record before June 2021 was 41C something. So it would equal like 39C for Turku.
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Post by Steelernation on Jul 2, 2021 0:39:41 GMT -5
Dew point data for 2021 using 10 minute observations:
First, we have min, max and average dews.
Month Low Mean High (F)
Jan -1.3 16.8 29.1
Feb -14.9 10.4 33.6
March -3.3 23.4 37.9
April 1.9 24.3 49.9
May 9.2 42.4 58.1
June 14.0 48.4 63.1
July 31.7 53.6 68.2
Aug 27.3 49.1 65.7
Sept 17.1 41.5 62.5
Oct 12.6 30.8 48.3
Nov 8.7 24.4 44.3
Dec -17.0 13.4 36.4
Annual: -17.0 to 68.2
Now for 3 PM conditions, to give a good sense of what afternoons are like:
Jan Temp: 40.0 Dew: 21.5 RH: 47%
Feb Temp: 35.2 Dew: 10.1 RH: 35%
Mar Temp: 49.5 Dew: 21.9 RH: 34%
Apr Temp: 56.8 Dew: 23.9 RH: 28%
May Temp: 64.4 Dew: 41.8 RH: 44%
Jun Temp: 82.3 Dew: 46.5 RH: 29%
Jul Temp: 85.7 Dew: 51.6 RH: 31%
Aug Temp: 84.7 Dew: 46.6 RH: 27%
Sept Temp: 80.6 Dew: 37.6 RH: 21%
Oct Temp: 64.3 Dew: 29.8 RH: 27%
Nov Temp: 56.9 Dew: 23.7 RH: 28%
Dec Temp: 46.4 Dew: 13.2 RH: 26%
And finally, true daily mean temps with difference from (max+min/2). This is using max+min for the hourly obs since a few days are slightly different in nowdata so a farer comparison:
Jan: 31.4 (-0.7 f)
Feb: 24.8 (-1.1 f)
Mar: 39.3 (-0.4 f)
Apr: 47.6 (+1.3 f)
May: 55.9 (-0.5 f)
June: 71.3 (-0.1 f)
July: 74.6 (0.0)
Aug: 72.3 (+0.3 f)
Sept: 66.5 (-0.2 f)
All cooler except April for some reason, especially clear in the winter months.
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Post by omegaraptor on Jul 9, 2021 18:19:52 GMT -5
50 or better diurnal club so far today, as per Mesowest:
Prineville, OR, 93/41
Redmond, OR, 97/45
Sunriver, OR, 90/37
Klamath Falls, OR, 97/45
Lakeview, OR, 97/45
Alturas, CA, 100/43
Chester, CA, 99/43
Can we get a round of applause?
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Post by Giorbanguly on Jul 9, 2021 23:54:05 GMT -5
Wish KMA made it easier to look up records. Not sure how Cadeau does it aside from going year by year
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Post by Crunch41 on Jul 12, 2021 21:33:10 GMT -5
I saw Steeler's posts about the rain he's getting and noticed that Fort Collins has been wetter than Milwaukee this year.
Through July 11th
Fort Collins 12.07" (normal 9.38)
Milwaukee 10.17" (normal 18.75)
metric:
Fort Collins 307 mm (normal 238)
Milwaukee 258 mm (normal 476)
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Post by Steelernation on Jul 12, 2021 22:17:02 GMT -5
I saw Steeler's posts about the rain he's getting and noticed that Fort Collins has been wetter than Milwaukee this year. Through July 11th Fort Collins 12.07" (normal 9.38) Milwaukee 10.17" (normal 18.75) metric: Fort Collins 307 mm (normal 238) Milwaukee 258 mm (normal 476) I’ve been in Rochester the past few weeks so that’s what my post was about. But yeah Fort Collins has been pretty wet, especially marxh and May. Surprising it’s wetter than Milwaukee and by a couple inches. Milwaukee looks really dry this year. |
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Post by Crunch41 on Jul 12, 2021 22:28:12 GMT -5
Is this box accurate? It's WMO station 44373 but the wiki source won't open for me. 43N, 4800'/1500m in Mongolia. It is the warmest in the country that I see.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalanzadgad
Sainshand and Zamyn-Üüd have hotter summers but the yearly mean is colder. Zamyn-Üüd has 29.8C highs in July.
Tsetserleg is mentioned along with Dalanzadgad as one of the mildest cities in the country. It's my new favorite climate for Mongolia. It has wetter summers and milder winters than most of the country. Compare to Ulaanbaatar or Renchinlkhümbe which has a yearly mean of -8C ( kronan found that one)
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Post by tommyFL on Jul 12, 2021 22:38:03 GMT -5
Is this box accurate? It's WMO station 44373 but the wiki source won't open for me. 43N, 4800'/1500m in Mongolia. It is the warmest in the country that I see.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DalanzadgadRight click, "save link as" |
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Post by Crunch41 on Jul 13, 2021 7:28:17 GMT -5
I get an error message when I do that. Is there a generic site to get the text files of WMO stations?
Edit: Ben said it opened on his computer, so I tried my phone and I could open (download) it. Yes, the WMO source link matches the wiki box.
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Post by tommyFL on Jul 13, 2021 13:10:35 GMT -5
I get an error message when I do that. Is there a generic site to get the text files of WMO stations?
Edit: Ben said it opened on his computer, so I tried my phone and I could open (download) it. Yes, the WMO source link matches the wiki box.
Chrome will mark any WMO link from an external source as "unsafe". You have to click the arrow and "keep" the file to download it. The WMO doesn't have a HTML site that opens text files, so all the data must be downloaded to your computer via FTP. Here is the source of all files for WMO normals: ftp.atdd.noaa.gov/pub/GCOS/WMO-Normals/TABLES/. You have to make sure your browser is configured for opening FTP URLs for the site to load. REG_I = Africa REG_II = Asia REGIII = South America REG_IV = North America REG_V = Australia/Oceania REG_VI = Europe Files are arranged by country code and station number. The directory for each continent is the "FILE_ID" file. |
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Post by omegaraptor on Jul 13, 2021 13:24:18 GMT -5
95/36 yesterday in Sunriver, OR. 59F diurnal.
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Post by greysrigging on Jul 16, 2021 16:20:51 GMT -5
Some chit chat on our local FB weather pages re the 'warming' of the Dry Seasons. This is my take on it with some stats from Darwin Airport
"So, what is the difference between a 'good' dry and a 'bad' dry ?
Most of us probably use the old 'rule of thumb' number of mins below 20c. Yeah ?
Nah, I'm asleep at night so I don't think too much on the mins, its the days and months above the long term averages that puts a dampener ( no pun intended, not talking about unseasonal rain events ) in the 'dry'.
Consider this....
Airport mean max temps 1961-1990.
May 32.1c, June 30.6c, July 30.5c, August 31.3c
Airport mean max temps 1991-2020
May 32.3c, June 31.1c, July 31.1c, August 31.9c
Airport mean max temps 1941-2020
May 32.1c, June 30.7c, July 30.6c, August 31.4c
So yeah, dry season days have warmed somewhat.
Most of us can't remember what happened last year, let alone 10 years ago. So some figures back to 2010 for May-August.
2021 - 32.7, 31.8, 32.3 ( so far as of 16/7 )
2020 - 32.1, 32.4, 32.0, 32.6.
2019 - 32.3, 31.0, 31.3, 32.0.
2018 - 32.7, 31.6, 31.9, 32.0.
2017 - 32.9, 31.3, 32.6, 33.1.
2016 - 33,3, 33.2, 31.5, 32.6.
2015 - 32.6, 32.0, 31.3, 31.8.
2014 - 32.7, 31.2, 31.1, 31.9.
2013 - 32.7, 31.8, 31.5, 32.8.
2012 - 31.1, 29.7, 30.6, 31.5.
2011 - 30.8, 29.0, 31.2, 31.9.
2010 - 32.3, 31.1, 32.6, 32.8.
Airport mean max temps 2010-2021.
May 32.35c, June 31.34c, July 31.74c, August 32.18c
The figures show a clear warming trend in the these dry season months ( max temps ), especially in the last decade.
So olny 4 months out of 47 have recorded below av max temps since 2010, Two in May and two in June !
Another thing I looked at was July days above 33c. So yeah, July, our 'coldest' month.
1941 - 1950 = 11 July days +33c
1951 - 1960 = 7 July days +33c
1961 - 1970 = 13 July days +33c
1971 - 1980 = 24 July days +33c
1981 - 1990 = 16 July days +33c
1991 - 2000 = 17 July days +33c
2001 - 2010 = 30 July days +33c
2011 - 2021 + 54 July days +33c
1942 - 8 days ( 6 consecutive ) +33c
1975 - 9 days ( 6 consecutive ) +33c
1998 - 9 days +33c
2010 - 13 days ( 8 consecutive ) +33c
2016 - 8 days +33c
2017 - 13 days ( including 4 days above 34c ! ) +33c
2021 - 5 consecutive days +33c
Honourable mention to June and July 2020, with both months recording record max temps of 35c !
Bit of a long winded way to say it....yes, the 'Drys' are getting warmer !
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Post by Ethereal on Jul 20, 2021 7:56:17 GMT -5
Why the hell is Duhok, in Northern Iraq, so hot in the summer? It's at 37' north, it's pretty much Mediterranean and it's not THAT inland, and its summers are akin to those of the desert climate, Phoenix. Such pathetic summers if you ask me. Like an inverted Eureka CA (which is cool for its latitude). Jesus....  |
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Post by Ariete on Jul 20, 2021 8:15:10 GMT -5
Why the hell is Duhok, in Northern Iraq, so hot in the summer? It's at 37' north, it's pretty much Mediterranean and it's not THAT inland, and its summers are akin to those of the desert climate, Phoenix. Such pathetic summers if you ask me. Like an inverted Eureka CA (which is cool for its latitude). Jesus....
Maybe because it's close to a pretty vast hot desert, inland, is virtually cloudless in summer and bone dry? Not THAT inland? Well 600 km to the Mediterranean and 500 km to the Black Sea is pretty solidly inland.
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Post by alex992 on Jul 20, 2021 8:18:14 GMT -5
Duhok is actually quite far inland, it's just to the north of Mosul. It's not THAT shocking that it's scorching in the summer. Any maritime influence that would be on the way to Duhok would get zapped up long before it reaches there.
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Post by alex992 on Jul 20, 2021 8:25:32 GMT -5
Why the hell is Duhok, in Northern Iraq, so hot in the summer? It's at 37' north, it's pretty much Mediterranean and it's not THAT inland, and its summers are akin to those of the desert climate, Phoenix. Such pathetic summers if you ask me. Like an inverted Eureka CA (which is cool for its latitude). Jesus....
Maybe because it's close to a pretty vast hot desert, inland, is virtually cloudless in summer and bone dry? Not THAT inland? Well 600 km to the Mediterranean and 500 km to the Black Sea is pretty solidly inland.
Not to mention all the mountains in Syria and Turkey that would block any marine influence from going that far inland. Nicosia, Cyprus is like 30 km from the coast, on an island in the middle of the Mediterranean and has average highs of 37 C in both July and August. I don't get how Duhok being hot would be that shocking. Come on Ethereal, you're better than that. |
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Post by Ethereal on Jul 20, 2021 8:31:26 GMT -5
I meant like for Asian standards, it's not that far off from a body of water -- in its case, the Mediterranean Sea (although I know that the Med Sea is pretty warm itself). I mean, I would expect such high temperatures in say Central/South Asia at the same latitude. I don't know?  Let's compare it to Wilcannia in NSW, which is 600 km inland on both sides (east and south), except it's 7C cooler in the summer (on average). I just never saw Duhok to be "normal" for its latitude. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilcannia#Climate |
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Post by Ethereal on Jul 20, 2021 8:34:18 GMT -5
Maybe because it's close to a pretty vast hot desert, inland, is virtually cloudless in summer and bone dry? Not THAT inland? Well 600 km to the Mediterranean and 500 km to the Black Sea is pretty solidly inland.
Not to mention all the mountains in Syria and Turkey that would block any marine influence from going that far inland. Nicosia, Cyprus is like 30 km from the coast, on an island in the middle of the Mediterranean and has average highs of 37 C in both July and August. I don't get how Duhok being hot would be that shocking. Come on Ethereal, you're better than that.I was just asking. Lol. Oh and even Cyprus should be cooler, considering the humidity of the Mediterranean Sea and how it's an ISLAND. And how come Beirut is cooler in the summers (than Cyprus) when it's sitting on a huge landmass?  Again, just wondering. I'm not being a .  EDIT: I'm not saying Duhok should average at 29C in the summer, but 42C? I don't know. 35C-36C seems more "natural" or normal for its latitude (not just location).  |
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Post by alex992 on Jul 20, 2021 8:44:50 GMT -5
I meant like for Asian standards, it's not that far off from a body of water -- in its case, the Mediterranean Sea (although I know that the Med Sea is pretty warm itself). I mean, I would expect such high temperatures in say Central/South Asia at the same latitude. I don't know? Let's compare it to Wilcannia in NSW, which is 600 km inland on both sides (east and south), except it's 7C cooler in the summer (on average). I just never saw Duhok to be "normal" for its latitude. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilcannia#ClimateWell, the ocean that's near (in a relative sense) Wilcannia is much colder than the Mediterranean, so there's that. Also, Australia in general seems to have rather cool summers for their latitude. Central and south Asia at the same latitude is generally at much higher elevation and much farther away from a scorching desert. |
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Post by Donar on Jul 20, 2021 8:54:21 GMT -5
Latitudinal differences also don't play a big role in summer as northern locations have longer days (if anything northern Iraq prob receives even more energy than places further south in summer). The nearby mountains probably help too because of the rugged terrain there is more surface to heat up.
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