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Post by ilmc90 on Mar 21, 2018 14:06:20 GMT -5
The sun is strong enough to make it uncomfortably hot and you'll get roasted if you spend anytime in it. I worked outside for six summers, it was no picnic. I worked outside during the summers of 2014-2016 too. Summers 2015-2016 were no picnic either. That said, if you're in good shape, these summers should be nothing. People really exaggerate how warm the summers are up here, just how people always exaggerate the cold in the winter I was able to handle it and was in terrific shape but it was still a miserable experience. What kind of work did you do? |
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Post by alex992 on Mar 21, 2018 14:06:40 GMT -5
They're hot here. The highs look somewhat benign on paper but I wouldn't underestimate the heat index, humidity, strength of the sun, etc. It's at like 41N, the sun really isn't that strong. Even NYC summers are innocent unless we get a 2010-type heat wave At 41 N, the sun is pretty strong still. Peaks at 72.5 degrees during the solstice, though of course that's the peak so the majority of summer is lower than that. Still, I wouldn't consider a 60-70 degree sun angle as "not that strong". Peak is 64.3 degrees here today and the sun was quite harsh at solar noon. |
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Post by ilmc90 on Mar 21, 2018 14:07:28 GMT -5
Combination of high altitude, and Upstate NY being geographically cursed. Upstate NY somehow gets cooler summers than New England to the east, and the Michigan peninsula to the west Thank the lord I've never had to spend a summer in Bunghole. NYC's summers are at least good Probably has to do a lot with Great Lakes influence moderating the summers a bit, but I don't think Upstate NY has cooler summers than Vermont though. Michigan is further west which means it's closer to the Great Plains which is a source of heat during the summer - probably easier to get a blast of hot air during the summer there compared to Upstate NY. But again, Michigan doesn't look much warmer than Upstate, and somewhere like Detroit has summers akin to Poughkeepsie (sp?). Yes, Michigan is a little more exposed to extremes while arctic blasts or extreme heat tends to moderate a bit by the time it gets here. |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Mar 21, 2018 14:08:42 GMT -5
Given our location, I think 50F highs should be routine and commonplace. Even in NYC, the highs for March are shockingly cold. Seoul for example, has much colder Januaries, but is actually warmer in March than NYC Seoul is only a few degrees warmer. Being on a peninsula may help moderate the temperatures a little. Yeah, but it just shows how screwed the Northeast US is during March and April. That places with much colder winters get massive warmups while the Northeast gotta suffer wintry temps until fucking May. It's fucking bullshit. You feel me? |
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Post by alex992 on Mar 21, 2018 14:09:08 GMT -5
Given our location, I think 50F highs should be routine and commonplace. Even in NYC, the highs for March are shockingly cold. Seoul for example, has much colder Januaries, but is actually warmer in March than NYC Seoul is only a few degrees warmer. Being on a peninsula may help moderate the temperatures a little. Seoul is also a good deal further south (at 37.5 N vs 41 N) so that could help spring come quicker. Also the higher continentality helps seasons transition faster. |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Mar 21, 2018 14:10:30 GMT -5
I worked outside during the summers of 2014-2016 too. Summers 2015-2016 were no picnic either. That said, if you're in good shape, these summers should be nothing. People really exaggerate how warm the summers are up here, just how people always exaggerate the cold in the winter I was able to handle it and was in terrific shape but it was still a miserable experience. What kind of work did you do? Construction. A couple of days were certainly bad, but overall the weather was very refreshing. One day that I remember was bad we were up on a roof in 2016 and it was like 95F that day - that sucked ass. Another day was like 89F but with really high humidity. That said, these are outliers |
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Post by ilmc90 on Mar 21, 2018 14:11:21 GMT -5
Seoul is only a few degrees warmer. Being on a peninsula may help moderate the temperatures a little. Yeah, but it just shows how screwed the Northeast US is during March and April. That places with much colder winters get massive warmups while the Northeast gotta suffer wintry temps until fucking May. It's fucking bullshit. You feel me? That's the trade off for summery temperatures well into September and October. The seasons are a little laggy. Despite that, we still can manage to get hot weather in the spring while bitter cold in the fall is difficult to come by. |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Mar 21, 2018 14:11:59 GMT -5
It's at like 41N, the sun really isn't that strong. Even NYC summers are innocent unless we get a 2010-type heat wave At 41 N, the sun is pretty strong still. Peaks at 72.5 degrees during the solstice, though of course that's the peak so the majority of summer is lower than that. Still, I wouldn't consider a 60-70 degree sun angle as "not that strong". Peak is 64.3 degrees here today and the sun was quite harsh at solar noon. , Idk, I feel like the strength really changes once you go down to maybe 30-35 degrees. I feel like I adapted to the New York sun, now I dont even feel it |
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Post by ilmc90 on Mar 21, 2018 14:13:09 GMT -5
I was able to handle it and was in terrific shape but it was still a miserable experience. What kind of work did you do? Construction. A couple of days were certainly bad, but overall the weather was very refreshing. One day that I remember was bad we were up on a roof in 2016 and it was like 95F that day - that sucked ass. Another day was like 89F but with really high humidity. That said, these are outliers I stopped working outside in summer 2014 so can't really comment on those summers. Even a somewhat cool summer like 2008 and 2009 still had plenty of uncomfortable days for working outdoors. Summers 2010 through 2013 were blazing hot and humid. Horrible. |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Mar 21, 2018 14:14:18 GMT -5
Yeah, but it just shows how screwed the Northeast US is during March and April. That places with much colder winters get massive warmups while the Northeast gotta suffer wintry temps until fucking May. It's fucking bullshit. You feel me? That's the trade off for summery temperatures well into September and October. The seasons are a little laggy. Despite that, we still can manage to get hot weather in the spring while bitter cold in the fall is difficult to come by. You know how annoying it is when it's mid-September and we're still getting constant 90F days? Or when it's October and the temperatures are still 75F for weeks on end? Well that's how it feels right now to be getting this subarctic weather |
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Post by alex992 on Mar 21, 2018 14:17:54 GMT -5
At 41 N, the sun is pretty strong still. Peaks at 72.5 degrees during the solstice, though of course that's the peak so the majority of summer is lower than that. Still, I wouldn't consider a 60-70 degree sun angle as "not that strong". Peak is 64.3 degrees here today and the sun was quite harsh at solar noon. , Idk, I feel like the strength really changes once you go down to maybe 30-35 degrees. I feel like I adapted to the New York sun, now I dont even feel it Yeah, there's a definite difference coming from down here to up north during summer in terms of sun strength. But our season is nearly directly overhead, so it's not saying much lol. No discernible difference between here and 30 N, 30 N still has quite the brutal sun. I start noticing a difference at the 32-34 N range from down here. |
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Post by alex992 on Mar 21, 2018 14:18:37 GMT -5
That's the trade off for summery temperatures well into September and October. The seasons are a little laggy. Despite that, we still can manage to get hot weather in the spring while bitter cold in the fall is difficult to come by. You know how annoying it is when it's mid-September and we're still getting constant 90F days? Or when it's October and the temperatures are still 75F for weeks on end? Well that's how it feels right now to be getting this subarctic weather Lol, a 75 F high is feat here during October, even the later part of the month. That's how sad this climate is. |
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Post by ilmc90 on Mar 21, 2018 14:19:26 GMT -5
Either way, the summer sun is brutal even in the higher latitudes. You'll roast in the summer even in places like Lake Placid.
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Post by ilmc90 on Mar 21, 2018 14:20:07 GMT -5
You know how annoying it is when it's mid-September and we're still getting constant 90F days? Or when it's October and the temperatures are still 75F for weeks on end? Well that's how it feels right now to be getting this subarctic weather Lol, a 75 F high is feat here during October, even the later part of the month. That's how sad this climate is. We now seem to get that in February so all crying about winter should cease IMO.   |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 14:24:04 GMT -5
21st - 28th looks fairly normal, but if the stuff after that isn't a computer error, I'll eat my own shit.
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Post by alex992 on Mar 21, 2018 14:25:31 GMT -5
Either way, the summer sun is brutal even in the higher latitudes. You'll roast in the summer even in places like Lake Placid. Very true. Even the sun in Berlin (52-53 N) in late May was pretty harsh, though noticeably less intense than here at that time of year. Reminded me of the sun we get in March. |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Mar 21, 2018 14:26:15 GMT -5
You know how annoying it is when it's mid-September and we're still getting constant 90F days? Or when it's October and the temperatures are still 75F for weeks on end? Well that's how it feels right now to be getting this subarctic weather Lol, a 75 F high is feat here during October, even the later part of the month. That's how sad this climate is. The average high in Jacarandopolis in October is 74F, which LaGuardia Airport has come really close to reaching on a few occasions. That just shows how extreme the seasonal lag is, that even the Octobers are really similar to my dream climate. Now those Aprils, on the other hand...kurwa Miami and most of Florida is just wayyy too hot year round. Im always rooting for Florida to get below average temps cause I know how extreme that place is |
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Post by alex992 on Mar 21, 2018 14:26:48 GMT -5
Lol, a 75 F high is feat here during October, even the later part of the month. That's how sad this climate is. We now seem to get that in February so all crying about winter should cease IMO. Hard to believe we got a colder high back in late October (68 F) than you did at some point in February lol |
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 21, 2018 14:28:42 GMT -5
1981-2010 February averages: 1.2/-7.4 C
March 2018 averages: 2.0/-4.1 C
The high is very similar but the low is slightly warmer...although who gives a duck if the low is -4 or -7 C. Same fucking thing.
Next week looks ok but then it’s supposed to get cold again. I don’t mind a cold April like 2016 where we have -10 C and snow and then a few days around 25 C and below normal precipitation. It’s if April turns out to be like April’s version of this March—8-12 C highs every day and lots of rain but no snow and no warmth...THEN BUGGER ME SIDEWAYS AND FUCK ME DEAD!
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