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Post by Nidaros on Mar 21, 2018 12:21:46 GMT -5
Our 1981-2010 January average: 5.5/0.5 Our March 2018 average so far: 4.4/0.1 Ugh, I fail to see how anybody can welcome this after it's already been chilly enough for months. This month has been like March in one of these southern Scandinavian climates where I say I like the January and the July but I still couldn't live there because the winters drag on too long. Yeah, some lighthouses at the SE coast in Norway has that avg, like 4.4/0c. Bergen and Stavanger are warmer using 81-10, almost 2c. 4.4/0.1 is about the same avg high as our March avg high using 1981-2010, and the avg in Oslo, but our avg lows are colder, like -2.3c. That's for the whole month of course. Røst in Lofoten has March avg 3.3c/0C so not far from what you are having so far in March, again for the whole month. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 12:21:47 GMT -5
I say bring on all the cold and snow in March & even early April. Why not? Too cold for the beach, still, so I don't give a fuck. Might as well have full-blown winter if we can't have full blown-summer. Transition periods suck.
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Post by Ariete on Mar 21, 2018 12:38:18 GMT -5
A Balakovo-style spring would be nice this year. Soon I would become to feel desperate and then BOOM in Early April.
Last March had an average of 4.4C/-2.1C, so definitely quite a change from that.
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Post by alex992 on Mar 21, 2018 12:41:26 GMT -5
I say bring on all the cold and snow in March & even early April. Why not? Too cold for the beach, still, so I don't give a fuck. Might as well have full-blown winter if we can't have full blown-summer. Transition periods suck. Agreed regarding transition seasons, especially down here. April is boring as fuck, too late for good cold snaps, too early for summer thunderstorms. It's just blindingly sunny like 80% of the time with barely any rain or cool temps. Just a constant 80-90 F with blaring sunshine. I think I'd like spring more in a four season climate, as spring is a season of variation, good temperature swings, outbreaks of severe weather, late season snow, etc. But down here, spring is incredibly boring. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 12:49:47 GMT -5
I say bring on all the cold and snow in March & even early April. Why not? Too cold for the beach, still, so I don't give a fuck. Might as well have full-blown winter if we can't have full blown-summer. Transition periods suck. Agreed regarding transition seasons, especially down here. April is boring as fuck, too late for good cold snaps, too early for summer thunderstorms. It's just blindingly sunny like 80% of the time with barely any rain or cool temps. Just a constant 80-90 F with blaring sunshine. I think I'd like spring more in a four season climate, as spring is a season of variation, good temperature swings, outbreaks of severe weather, late season snow, etc. But down here, spring is incredibly boring. I don't see very much to like about spring, honestly. Fall can be nice with the colors. Spring is kind of pointless. I'd rather fast-forward to summer. Though I do love this whole "first (full) day of spring" hype juxtaposed with a good snowstorm for the occasion.  |
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Post by alex992 on Mar 21, 2018 13:12:46 GMT -5
Agreed regarding transition seasons, especially down here. April is boring as fuck, too late for good cold snaps, too early for summer thunderstorms. It's just blindingly sunny like 80% of the time with barely any rain or cool temps. Just a constant 80-90 F with blaring sunshine. I think I'd like spring more in a four season climate, as spring is a season of variation, good temperature swings, outbreaks of severe weather, late season snow, etc. But down here, spring is incredibly boring. I don't see very much to like about spring, honestly. Fall can be nice with the colors. Spring is kind of pointless. I'd rather fast-forward to summer. Though I do love this whole "first (full) day of spring" hype juxtaposed with a good snowstorm for the occasion. It's fun to see all the idiot non-weather enthusiasts who think the weather changes at the drop of a hat just because the calendar says "spring" getting pissed off lol. As if the weather changes 100% overnight from March 19 to March 20 lol. |
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Post by Ariete on Mar 21, 2018 13:19:58 GMT -5
20C on April's fools and an ice day on 2 April would be quite epic |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 13:30:14 GMT -5
Even after a rather disappointing start to my morning, in my book, NWH Mt Holly is STILL predicting 8-12 inches for us, even as of 10:41 AM (by which time it was already snowing here,and had been for about an hour)  |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Mar 21, 2018 13:33:25 GMT -5
Our 1981-2010 January average: 5.5/0.5 Our March 2018 average so far: 4.4/0.1 Ugh, I fail to see how anybody can welcome this after it's already been chilly enough for months. This month has been like March in one of these southern Scandinavian climates where I say I like the January and the July but I still couldn't live there because the winters drag on too long. I know I'm in the minority when it comes to enjoying a cold spring, but part of the reason is that it makes the long hot summers a little more bearable. The summers north of NYC aren't hot tho, summers in Upstate NY are lame. Not all of the Northeast can have glorious summers like Philly |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Mar 21, 2018 13:35:28 GMT -5
I say bring on all the cold and snow in March & even early April. Why not? Too cold for the beach, still, so I don't give a fuck. Might as well have full-blown winter if we can't have full blown-summer. Transition periods suck. By April it gets fucking tiring wearing the same winter coat and winter coats that you've been wearing for the past six months |
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Post by Ariete on Mar 21, 2018 13:48:40 GMT -5
The summers north of NYC aren't hot tho, summers in Upstate NY are lame. Not all of the Northeast can have glorious summers like Philly Bunghole has similar summers as Paris, when the other is continental and the other is oceanic stratocrapulus 6 degrees further north. Bunghole's crummers are surprisingly weak for an inland US location. |
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Post by ilmc90 on Mar 21, 2018 13:53:38 GMT -5
I know I'm in the minority when it comes to enjoying a cold spring, but part of the reason is that it makes the long hot summers a little more bearable. The summers north of NYC aren't hot tho, summers in Upstate NY are lame. Not all of the Northeast can have glorious summers like Philly They're hot here. The highs look somewhat benign on paper but I wouldn't underestimate the heat index, humidity, strength of the sun, etc. |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Mar 21, 2018 13:54:09 GMT -5
The summers north of NYC aren't hot tho, summers in Upstate NY are lame. Not all of the Northeast can have glorious summers like Philly Bunghole has similar summers as Paris, when the other is continental and the other is oceanic stratocrapulus 6 degrees further north. Bunghole's crummers are surprisingly weak for an inland US location. Combination of high altitude, and Upstate NY being geographically cursed. Upstate NY somehow gets cooler summers than New England to the east, and the Michigan peninsula to the west Thank the lord I've never had to spend a summer in Bunghole. NYC's summers are at least good |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Mar 21, 2018 13:55:59 GMT -5
The summers north of NYC aren't hot tho, summers in Upstate NY are lame. Not all of the Northeast can have glorious summers like Philly They're hot here. The highs look somewhat benign on paper but I wouldn't underestimate the heat index, humidity, strength of the sun, etc. It's at like 41N, the sun really isn't that strong. Even NYC summers are innocent unless we get a 2010-type heat wave |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Mar 21, 2018 13:58:01 GMT -5
Kind of unrealistic to expect March to be a glorious spring month anyway. We're just coming off the heels of winter. That's why I don't expect September to flip like a switch and be fall-like with crisp temperatures. It's essentially a slightly cooler version of summer just like March is a slightly warmer version of winter. Given our location, I think 50F highs should be routine and commonplace. Even in NYC, the highs for March are shockingly cold. Seoul for example, has much colder Januaries, but is actually warmer in March than NYC |
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Post by ilmc90 on Mar 21, 2018 13:59:58 GMT -5
They're hot here. The highs look somewhat benign on paper but I wouldn't underestimate the heat index, humidity, strength of the sun, etc. It's at like 41N, the sun really isn't that strong. Even NYC summers are innocent unless we get a 2010-type heat wave The sun is strong enough to make it uncomfortably hot and you'll get roasted if you spend anytime in it. I worked outside for six summers, it was no picnic. |
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Post by Ariete on Mar 21, 2018 14:01:38 GMT -5
YES BUT IT'S ONLY THE FIRST DAY OF SPRING NOW! TWO DAYS AGO IT WAS WINTER! LOOK AT THE SOLAR CALENDAR!
herp de derp, penis mcghee
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Post by Giorbanguly on Mar 21, 2018 14:03:27 GMT -5
It's at like 41N, the sun really isn't that strong. Even NYC summers are innocent unless we get a 2010-type heat wave The sun is strong enough to make it uncomfortably hot and you'll get roasted if you spend anytime in it. I worked outside for six summers, it was no picnic. I worked outside during the summers of 2014-2016 too. Summers 2015-2016 were no picnic either. That said, if you're in good shape, these summers should be nothing. People really exaggerate how warm the summers are up here, just how people always exaggerate the cold in the winter |
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Post by alex992 on Mar 21, 2018 14:04:45 GMT -5
Bunghole has similar summers as Paris, when the other is continental and the other is oceanic stratocrapulus 6 degrees further north. Bunghole's crummers are surprisingly weak for an inland US location. Combination of high altitude, and Upstate NY being geographically cursed. Upstate NY somehow gets cooler summers than New England to the east, and the Michigan peninsula to the west Thank the lord I've never had to spend a summer in Bunghole. NYC's summers are at least good Probably has to do a lot with Great Lakes influence moderating the summers a bit, but I don't think Upstate NY has cooler summers than Vermont though. Michigan is further west which means it's closer to the Great Plains which is a source of heat during the summer - probably easier to get a blast of hot air during the summer there compared to Upstate NY. But again, Michigan doesn't look much warmer than Upstate, and somewhere like Detroit has summers akin to Poughkeepsie (sp?). |
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Post by ilmc90 on Mar 21, 2018 14:04:46 GMT -5
Kind of unrealistic to expect March to be a glorious spring month anyway. We're just coming off the heels of winter. That's why I don't expect September to flip like a switch and be fall-like with crisp temperatures. It's essentially a slightly cooler version of summer just like March is a slightly warmer version of winter. Given our location, I think 50F highs should be routine and commonplace. Even in NYC, the highs for March are shockingly cold. Seoul for example, has much colder Januaries, but is actually warmer in March than NYC Seoul is only a few degrees warmer. Being on a peninsula may help moderate the temperatures a little. |
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