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Post by Babu on May 30, 2018 4:28:02 GMT -5
The reported cloud activity at Kronoby across the pond from me is quite ridiculous. On Satellite images a couple of days have been cloudy there actually, so maybe it only measures clouds up to 3km or something like that. Still, I'm very curious how many hours of sunshine Kronoby will get.  |
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Post by Babu on May 30, 2018 4:33:51 GMT -5
Kronoby at Ogimet: ![]()  |
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Post by Ariete on May 30, 2018 6:16:32 GMT -5
IDK if Kronoby even records sunshine...
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Post by Babu on May 30, 2018 6:24:32 GMT -5
IDK if Kronoby even records sunshine... Valassaret does though. Maybe Vaasa too? |
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Post by Nidaros on May 30, 2018 6:30:21 GMT -5
Bergen 30.5c so far and it’s still early
Should se at least 32c somewhere today.
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Post by Ariete on May 30, 2018 6:37:09 GMT -5
IDK if Kronoby even records sunshine... Valassaret does though. Maybe Vaasa too? I'll ask the Fmi |
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Post by knot on May 30, 2018 6:57:40 GMT -5
Sleet showers from this morn' (sleet = wet snow in Australia):
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Post by Babu on May 30, 2018 7:56:17 GMT -5
Saw the 31.4'C from an unofficial station. Was thinking it was just one of the stations that regularly report high readings. Turns out it's most likely an accurate reading.  |
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Post by Ariete on May 30, 2018 7:57:57 GMT -5
Unofficial stations doesn't count...
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Post by Babu on May 30, 2018 8:06:54 GMT -5
Unofficial stations doesn't count... Yes I know. But the official Halmstad station recorded 31.2'C according to weatherhq. The 31.8'C reading close to that with all stations nearby around 30-31'C makes me think it's accurate even though it isn't official. What matters isn't officiality. It's accuracy. Official just means it's accurate. Also, if that 31.2'C reading from Halmstad confirms, it'll be the highest since records started back in 1888. (Precious record 30.0). The airport has reached 30.0 so far according to weatherhq. Though weatherhq said Torpshammar reached 31'C when they only reached 29'C so there's a chance for false numbers. |
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Post by Ariete on May 30, 2018 8:37:43 GMT -5
Yes I know. But the official Halmstad station recorded 31.2'C according to weatherhq. The 31.8'C reading close to that with all stations nearby around 30-31'C makes me think it's accurate even though it isn't official. What matters isn't officiality. It's accuracy. Official just means it's accurate. Also, if that 31.2'C reading from Halmstad confirms, it'll be the highest since records started back in 1888. (Precious record 30.0). The airport has reached 30.0 so far according to weatherhq. Though weatherhq said Torpshammar reached 31'C when they only reached 29'C so there's a chance for false numbers.
According to what? Some unofficial website? Does Halmstad even have a SMHI weather station?
You're wrong. The only thing which matters is official national met institute readings. Everything else is just for shits and giggles.
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Post by Babu on May 30, 2018 8:48:24 GMT -5
Yes I know. But the official Halmstad station recorded 31.2'C according to weatherhq. The 31.8'C reading close to that with all stations nearby around 30-31'C makes me think it's accurate even though it isn't official. What matters isn't officiality. It's accuracy. Official just means it's accurate. Also, if that 31.2'C reading from Halmstad confirms, it'll be the highest since records started back in 1888. (Precious record 30.0). The airport has reached 30.0 so far according to weatherhq. Though weatherhq said Torpshammar reached 31'C when they only reached 29'C so there's a chance for false numbers.
According to what? Some unofficial website? Does Halmstad even have a SMHI weather station?
You're wrong. The only thing which matters is official national met institute readings. Everything else is just for shits and giggles.
Yeah, Halmstad has got SMHI stations. WeatherHQ lists SMHI stations, stations operated by the traffic authority, and a few PWS's too. It boils down to your view of rules and laws in general I guess. Do you believe in following the laws themselves, or what the laws are trying to do? Personally I follow rules and laws because of their reason, not because they're rules and laws. If their reason is faulty, I don't care about following the rules or laws. Likewise I tend to stick to official stations because they're accurate or at least deemed accurate. But if there's an accurate station that isn't owned by SMHI, I'd use its readings with a clear conscience. If you held your breath for 30 minutes, you'd probably brag about beating the world record even if Guiness world record weren't there to actually confirm it. |
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Post by Ariete on May 30, 2018 8:59:25 GMT -5
Yeah, Halmstad has got SMHI stations. WeatherHQ lists SMHI stations, stations operated by the traffic authority, and a few PWS's too. It boils down to your view of rules and laws in general I guess. Do you believe in following the laws themselves, or what the laws are trying to do? Personally I follow rules and laws because of their reason, not because they're rules and laws. If their reason is faulty, I don't care about following the rules or laws. Likewise I tend to stick to official stations because they're accurate or at least deemed accurate. But if there's an accurate station that isn't owned by SMHI, I'd use its readings with a clear conscience. If you held your breath for 30 minutes, you'd probably brag about beating the world record even if Guiness world record weren't there to actually confirm it.
If Halmstad has SMHI stations, why do you not get the data from the SMHI, but instead of some obscure site nobody else uses?
It doesn't boil down to my rules, but the WMO rules. Additionally, we settled this issue on C-D years ago before you joined that because there is no universal standard for unofficial and personal stations, both the WMO and our community discards those unofficial readings.
You saying that some unofficial station is "accurate", how the fuck can you know that? You're just assuming.
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Post by Babu on May 30, 2018 9:10:27 GMT -5
Yeah, Halmstad has got SMHI stations. WeatherHQ lists SMHI stations, stations operated by the traffic authority, and a few PWS's too. It boils down to your view of rules and laws in general I guess. Do you believe in following the laws themselves, or what the laws are trying to do? Personally I follow rules and laws because of their reason, not because they're rules and laws. If their reason is faulty, I don't care about following the rules or laws. Likewise I tend to stick to official stations because they're accurate or at least deemed accurate. But if there's an accurate station that isn't owned by SMHI, I'd use its readings with a clear conscience. If you held your breath for 30 minutes, you'd probably brag about beating the world record even if Guiness world record weren't there to actually confirm it. If Halmstad has SMHI stations, why do you not get the data from the SMHI, but instead of some obscure site nobody else uses? It doesn't boil down to my rules, but the WMO rules. Additionally, we settled this issue on C-D years ago before you joined that because there is no universal standard for unofficial and personal stations, both the WMO and our community discards those unofficial readings. You saying that some unofficial station is "accurate", how the fuck can you know that? You're just assuming.
There's no point in debating this since we simply have differring views. I use weatherhq because SMHI is slow at sharing data, same goes for Ogimet. (Also weatherhq is much easier and quicker to use). And if all stations in one area say the same thing it's much safer to assume it as accurate rather than all the stations being equally inaccurate. Besides even official stations are inaccurate to a degree, and so at that point it makes little sense to me to ignore the unofficial data. But we'll just have to agree to disagree on that. I realize that starting accepting unofficial records will compromise the reliability of weather records. If I held my beath for 30 minutes, I'd recognize it as a wormd record, but I might not recognize it if you did, and at least I wouldn't want to abolish the guiness world record requirements. |
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Post by Ariete on May 30, 2018 9:31:23 GMT -5
If I held my beath for 30 minutes, I'd recognize it as a wormd record, but I might not recognize it if you did, and at least I wouldn't want to abolish the guiness world record requirements.
Exactly. Therefore neither of us holding our breaths for 30 minutes are worth anything, because we could be bullshitting and we weren't monitored anyway. Same goes for unofficial weather stations.
We wouldn't have this discussion if it was January and an unofficial Umeå station would record -40C. You would say "those unofficial stations cannot be trusted".
You just sit tight and wait for the official SMHI readings from their stations. That's what we all others do.
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Post by Dean York (Old) on May 30, 2018 9:43:51 GMT -5
What a month in the Scandinavian countries. The UK could never ever have a May like that.
I'm truly envious of the huge spells of completely sunny weather you can get over there.
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Post by Nidaros on May 30, 2018 10:12:26 GMT -5
32.4°C @ 16:00 Etne near Bergen! Bergen at least 31.2°C today so far. Oslo-Blindern 30.5°C at 17:00 National all-time high for May is broken - but by how much? Could we see 33°C high today? Lots and lots of stations have got a new all-time high for May today.
And, at the same time today: Makkaur lighthouse in Northern Norway's Finnmark province: 4°C
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Post by srfoskey on May 30, 2018 10:26:15 GMT -5
What I find interesting is Scandinavia is about to set their warmest May on record while being very sunny, whereas Raleigh is about to set its warmest May on record while being very cloudy. I think I've only seen the sun a couple dozen hours since I arrived in North Carolina on 15 May. The reason it's been so warm is it's not cooling off much at night; our average low for the month is 63.6ºF/17.6ºC, with the average low since May 12 being a whopping 68.2ºF/20.1ºC. A large quadrilateral of the U.S. from North Carolina to Oklahoma to Iowa to Ohio is about to have its warmest (or second or third warmest depending on exact location) May on record.
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Post by boombo on May 30, 2018 10:41:13 GMT -5
What a month in the Scandinavian countries. The UK could never ever have a May like that. I'm truly envious of the huge spells of completely sunny weather you can get over there. It'll be the warmest May average Tmax on record in Bingley (not sure about the mean) and the sunniest May in 60+ years but it feels mediocre compared to the absolutely insane month they've had over there. Shame the cloudy last few days of the month are going to take the shine off the sun totals a bit though I'm still not complaining about our May at all! |
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Post by Dean York (Old) on May 30, 2018 13:02:26 GMT -5
What a month in the Scandinavian countries. The UK could never ever have a May like that. I'm truly envious of the huge spells of completely sunny weather you can get over there. It'll be the warmest May average Tmax on record in Bingley (not sure about the mean) and the sunniest May in 60+ years but it feels mediocre compared to the absolutely insane month they've had over there. Shame the cloudy last few days of the month are going to take the shine off the sun totals a bit though I'm still not complaining about our May at all! Yeah by our standards it's been a very good month, and sunny too with around 250-260 hours of sun. But it's nothing compared to those lucky fuckers! What a month! I'm not going to complain too much though. I'm actually pleased we've had a nice May. Hopefully the rest of the summer follows suit. |
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