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Post by southathens on Jan 22, 2023 5:24:45 GMT -5
That's a pathetic racist message. Who ever wrote that is stuck in Greece's bailout era when Greece was on the international spotlight. Basically, stupid generalizations of a clueless bitch Of course the best way to refute such postings is to use data from a WMO certified National Weather Service... from whatever country of origin... put 'em up as a comparison and shut up the doubters as to the veracity of the figures....... pretty simple, yeah ? Yep in an ideal world where areas inhabited by around 1000 people like Lindos have WMO stations that would be great. Greece's national Met office has been underfunded ever since the bailout era and have closed down multiple stations. That's where the National Observatory of Athens steps ups free from red tape and due to private funding, it has managed to create a 400+ station network around Greece which is true gold! Like I said, empirically comparing our WMO stations to the NOA stations we see how much more accurate Davis stations are in urban environments compared to WMO ones. Basically, I think we are the best case study internationally on this. I think we are the only country in the world to have simultaneously WMO and Davis stations in the same areas from National weather agencies. So we can do head on comparisons! Use us to your benefit! Oh btw I just noticed the poster is a bitch from Slovenia. I mean it adds up! Some Slovenes have a long standing inferiority complex to Greece. They started claiming Slovenia is more advanced in the Balkans once Greece was hit by the bailouts. Give it a minute and we ll see.
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Post by southathens on Jan 22, 2023 8:08:49 GMT -5
I am city-data forum member from 2009. Back to Lindos. A pretty mild January so far. In whole of Greece tbh What was your username on CD? Only CD Weather forum member I can think of from Greece was 'Alkis' - but then again, I haven't been on that site in a while myself. I am the user who opened the very same thread over in city-data forum Actually I am a member from early 2010. Got a bit mixed up!! www.city-data.com/forum/weather/3400931-absolute-champion-european-heat-lindos-greece.html
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Post by AJ1013 on Jan 22, 2023 8:10:00 GMT -5
2018-2023 lol
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Post by Ariete on Jan 22, 2023 8:25:28 GMT -5
That's a pathetic racist message. Who ever wrote that is stuck in Greece's bailout era when Greece was on the international spotlight. Basically, stupid generalizations of a clueless bitch
Immediately screaming racism if someone criticises you is usually a sign that one doesn't have any real arguments against the criticism.
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Post by southathens on Jan 22, 2023 8:50:16 GMT -5
That's a pathetic racist message. Who ever wrote that is stuck in Greece's bailout era when Greece was on the international spotlight. Basically, stupid generalizations of a clueless bitch
Immediately screaming racism if someone criticises you is usually a sign that one doesn't have any real arguments against the criticism.
The poster says bullshit about the Greek nation. Obviously they are a racist scumbag and thats what I am criticizing. I addressed the point thoroughly in the relevant post answer to that guy from FL . Do you have something to say about my post explaining all about NOA and the actual station?
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Post by Beercules on Jan 22, 2023 9:26:29 GMT -5
Finally some entertainment on this forum. Lord knows I read the last 2 pages while being high, my life is now complete.
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Post by Cheeseman on Jan 22, 2023 10:12:33 GMT -5
Immediately screaming racism if someone criticises you is usually a sign that one doesn't have any real arguments against the criticism.
The poster says bullshit about the Greek nation. Obviously they are a racist scumbag and thats what I am criticizing. I addressed the point thoroughly in the relevant post answer to that guy from FL . Do you have something to say about my post explaining all about NOA and the actual station? Knowing a bit more about certain posters' modus operandi - I'd be willing to bet that Slovenian dude you were arguing with isn't even Slovenian to begin with. Behavioral evidence seems to suggest he's a sockpuppet of our formerly very own (before he got banned, and rightfully so) knot.
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Post by Benfxmth on Jan 22, 2023 10:15:47 GMT -5
That "Slovene" is obviously a certain banned member who lives in Australia who's sad enough to keep making fake accounts just to satisfy his compulsion of bullying others for the sake of argument.
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Post by southathens on Jan 22, 2023 11:27:31 GMT -5
Just to highlight how extremely reliable and without any biases the NOA rooftop stations are, below is a comparison between the historic Athens Downtown WMO station at 107 meters elevation situated at the grassed area of the National Observatory of Athens versus the nearest rooftop Athens Downtown NOA station at 50 meters elevation. The two stations are around 700 meters apart. Unfortunately, we do not a have WMO station in Lindos to confirm this but like I said before I am positive that a WMO grass station would have higher summer minimums compared to the current NOA station. This is due to the impeccable maintenance and proper mounting of the rooftop station in Lindos by NOA. Plus of course the fact that the dynamic factor in Lindos' crazy minimums is the constant 24/7 fohn effect. You can verify the numbers yourself from the climate bulletins of the NOA for both stations. I did a 5 year comparison which is faster and easier but the whole time series of parallel operation for both stations (2008 until today) reveals about the same biases from what I remember last time I did that comparison a couple of years ago. Here the NOA bulletins www.meteo.gr/Monthly_Bulletins.cfmUnfortunately, these are in Greek but its pretty easy to infer. The start of each bulletin gives the Athens WMO monthly means and a list follows with all the other Davis fan aspirated station with their monthly means. If you need assistance with translation give me a shout! You should look for the ''Αθήνα-Κέντρο'' station or ''Αθήνα (Γκάζι) if you are using meteo search (the rooftop NOA station i am using to compare with the WMO station). Mind you that both stations are stations that belong to the National Observatory of Athens and the WMO station in Downtown Athens is a state of the art first class met station which has been operating from 1857 and has been at the very same location from September 1890. It is the oldest WMO station in South Europe and its data are a real treasure! So as you can see the rooftop NOA station is between 0.2C to 0.4C cooler during the summer nights compared to the WMO one!
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Post by Yahya Sinwar on Jan 22, 2023 12:30:53 GMT -5
Did move to Greece? It's his Greek cousin. was a Dutch expat in Spain. I bet his cousin is a British expat from Birmingham
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Post by Strewthless on Jan 22, 2023 14:19:09 GMT -5
was a Dutch expat in Spain. I bet his cousin is a British expat from Birmingham I highly doubt he was actually Dutch, most Dutchmen his age speak excellent English. All of 's various sockpuppets had the same story, expats in Spain who couldn't believe how amazing it was to be mading living onto spain.
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Post by Ariete on Jan 22, 2023 14:23:48 GMT -5
I highly doubt he was actually Dutch, most Dutchmen his age speak excellent English. All of 's various sockpuppets had the same story, expats in Spain who couldn't believe how amazing it was to be mading living onto spain.
He is Dutch-Spanish, originally from Rotterdam. But he has gone most of his school in Spain, in a Spanish-speaking environment. That's why his English is so shitty.
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Post by Strewthless on Jan 22, 2023 14:26:50 GMT -5
I highly doubt he was actually Dutch, most Dutchmen his age speak excellent English. All of 's various sockpuppets had the same story, expats in Spain who couldn't believe how amazing it was to be mading living onto spain.
He is Dutch-Spanish, originally from Rotterdam. But he has gone most of his school in Spain, in a Spanish-speaking environment. That's why his English is so shitty.
The fluent Spanish speakers on the forum said his Spanglish grammatical errors could only have come from a native Spanish speaker. A native Dutch speaker wouldn't think of ordering their words the way he did.
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Jan 22, 2023 14:30:11 GMT -5
I highly doubt he was actually Dutch, most Dutchmen his age speak excellent English. All of 's various sockpuppets had the same story, expats in Spain who couldn't believe how amazing it was to be mading living onto spain.
He is Dutch-Spanish, originally from Rotterdam. But he has gone most of his school in Spain, in a Spanish-speaking environment. That's why his English is so shitty.
I can confirm from personal travels that most Spaniards don't speak much English. Not that it matters for me because I'm a native Spanish speaker. Generally, I notice the trend that in countries like Spain, France, Germany where the native language is already very widely spoken, not many people speak English. Contrast that with small countries that have obscure languages with few native speakers like Netherlands or the Nordics, they speak great English. In short, because there's already tons of Latin American Spanish-speaking tourists like me to Spain, they don't need to learn English for tourism in Spain. Same in France and Germany, I'd imagine, with Francophones and German speakers from many other nations.
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Post by Ariete on Jan 22, 2023 14:42:31 GMT -5
The fluent Spanish speakers on the forum said his Spanglish grammatical errors could only have come from a native Spanish speaker. A native Dutch speaker wouldn't think of ordering their words the way he did.
is a native Spanish speaker indeed, but that doesn't mean he can't be a native Dutch speaker. I am a native Finnish and Swedish speaker, but I think in Finnish, it's my stronger language, and I might make some grammatical errors a solely Swedish-speaker wouldn't.
He has lived most of his life in Spain, and Spanish schools don't have the same emphasis on Spanish, the English TV is all dubbed there, so it's not surprising that 's English is worse than his peers in the Netherlands.
I don't see why he would lie about being 50% Dutch, he didn't really gain anything from that.
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Post by Strewthless on Jan 22, 2023 14:46:53 GMT -5
The fluent Spanish speakers on the forum said his Spanglish grammatical errors could only have come from a native Spanish speaker. A native Dutch speaker wouldn't think of ordering their words the way he did.
is a native Spanish speaker indeed, but that doesn't mean he can't be a native Dutch speaker. I am a native Finnish and Swedish speaker, but I think in Finnish, it's my stronger language, and I might make some grammatical errors a solely Swedish-speaker wouldn't.
He has lived most of his life in Spain, and Spanish schools don't have the same emphasis on Spanish, the English TV is all dubbed there, so it's not surprising that 's English is worse than his peers in the Netherlands.
I don't see why he would lie about being 50% Dutch, he didn't really gain anything from that.
What did he gain from pretending to be Gareth from Bristol, Jose from Mexico, Uvuvueueueueueue from Timbuktu, or any of the dozens of stupid accounts he made? You can't rationalise the behaviour of a crazy person.
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Post by southathens on Jan 22, 2023 16:55:13 GMT -5
Ok guys, lets get back to Lindos now.
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Post by southathens on Jan 23, 2023 11:38:16 GMT -5
So here is the most relevant comparison in order again to highlight how extremely reliable and without any biases the NOA rooftop station in Lindos is. Below is a comparison from the windward side of Rhodes between the WMO AP station in Rhodes city vs the nearby NOA rooftop station in Rhodes city.The WMO station is at 7 meters elevation situated in Rhodes airport while the nearby rooftop Rhodes city NOA station is situated at 95 meters elevation. You can verify the numbers yourself from the climate bulletins of our national Met office (HNMS) and NOA climate bulletins. I did a 5 year comparison and focused on summer minimums since the maxes are not an issue due to the fan aspiration! Here the NOA bulletins www.meteo.gr/Monthly_Bulletins.cfmUnfortunately, these are in Greek but its pretty easy to infer. If you need assistance with translation give me a shout! You should look for the ''Ρόδος'' station or ''Ρόδος πόλη'' if you are using meteo search (the rooftop NOA station i am using to compare with the WMO station). Here the HNMS bulletins in English! www.emy.gr/emy/en/climatology/climatology?So as you can see the rooftop NOA station is around 0.8C cooler during the summer nights compared to the WMO one in Rhodes! Like I said before I am pretty sure that a WMO station if placed next to the Lindos NOA station on the grass at 2m will be even warmer than Lindos NOA station!!!
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Post by southathens on Jan 23, 2023 13:58:55 GMT -5
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Post by tommyFL on Jan 23, 2023 17:22:35 GMT -5
At first I was unconvinced, but now I can't deny the legendary heat in this region after reading this account. Thank you, Mrs. Climatologist Goedy77. 50 C! Incredible.
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