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Post by jgtheone on Jul 31, 2020 6:05:49 GMT -5
Now EC's on board with low-level snowfalls across VIC, NSW, and SA:  Special mention to the 20+ cm in the Adelaide Hills (SA) and sea-level snowfall on coastal Western VIC. Lmao that'd smash the SA record |
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Post by knot on Jul 31, 2020 6:35:08 GMT -5
"The record has been scrutinized perhaps more than any other in the United States. I don't have much more to add to the debate aside from my belief it is most likely not a valid reading when one looks at all the evidence. Normally when Death Valley records its hottest temperatures they occur during region-wide heat waves. On July 10, 1913 the next highest temperatures recorded in southern California (aside from Greenland Ranch) were just 119° at Heber and 118° at Mammoth Tank."
In Burt's eyes, one red flag about the record is that Death Valley has never even come close to matching 134 degrees since 1913. It hasn't even breached 130 degrees. "It's way, way anomalous," he said.
Death Valley was alone in reporting such fiery temperatures on that day. Nearby places like Las Vegas and Blythe were hot, but not that hot.
On top of these anomolies, the wind conditions observed that day would suggest temperatures were actually much cooler. Greenland Ranch's weather observer, Oscar Denton, may have been a meticulous record keeper, but he wasn't a trained meteorologist. He was an employee of the Pacific Coast Borax mining company. Burt ultimately suspects something may have been wrong with the thermometer. After examining the temperature record in detail, Court noted that this temperature may be the result of a sandstorm that occurred at the time. Such a storm may have caused superheated surface materials to hit upon the temperature in the shelter. These sources make a number of ill-informed assumptions, and I will be more than happy to go through each one: What "normally" happens (in this case a state-wide heatwave), simply doesn't matter when it comes to weather events; especially when Death Valley has a very clear geographical advantage regarding heatwave strength—i.e. negative altitude and foehn winds, for starters. When a station "never comes close" to beating a record, that doesn't mean said record is unreliable. It simply means that the conditions today are not as suited to producing extreme temperatures as they used to be; the North American landmass is generally much wetter now than it used to be, thereby mitigating the heat (and thus heatwaves don't reach magnitudes they used to, such as in 1934 and the infamous 1936 Dust Bowl). Increasing soil moisture over the general landmass, reduces heat. Las Vegas and Blythe are entirely different stations, situated in entirely different geographical positions, and thus receiving entirely different meteorological influences. Not applicable whatsoever, and if you ask me, it's a downright shameful comparison to be making. What sort of "wind conditions" may these be? I ask because the article provides no further evidence or even the slightest detail regarding those so-called "conditions". Also, the vast majority of BoM's station observers in the past were simply post officers who willingly observed the thermometer readings, so the argument that "but but but…he was a mining company employee!", just doesn't work. I note the use of weasel words in this final assumption: "Court noted that this temperature may be the result of a sandstorm that occurred at the time." It may have occured, and quite frankly, that means absolutely nothing. |
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Post by Donar on Jul 31, 2020 7:15:09 GMT -5
These sources make a number of ill-informed assumptions, and I will be more than happy to go through each one: What "normally" happens (in this case a state-wide heatwave), simply doesn't matter when it comes to weather events; especially when Death Valley has a very clear geographical advantage regarding heatwave strength—i.e. negative altitude and foehn winds, for starters. When a station "never comes close" to beating a record, that doesn't mean said record is unreliable. It simply means that the conditions today are not as suited to producing extreme temperatures as they used to be; the North American landmass is generally much wetter now than it used to be, thereby mitigating the heat (and thus heatwaves don't reach magnitudes they used to, such as in 1934 and the infamous 1936 Dust Bowl). Increasing soil moisture over the general landmass, reduces heat. Las Vegas and Blythe are entirely different stations, situated in entirely different geographical positions, and thus receiving entirely different meteorological influences. Not applicable whatsoever, and if you ask me, it's a downright shameful comparison to be making. What sort of "wind conditions" may these be? I ask because the article provides no further evidence or even the slightest detail regarding those so-called "conditions". Also, the vast majority of BoM's station observers in the past were simply post officers who willingly observed the thermometer readings, so the argument that "but but but…he was a mining company employee!", just doesn't work. I note the use of weasel words in this final assumption: "Court noted that this temperature may be the result of a sandstorm that occurred at the time." It may have occured, and quite frankly, that means absolutely nothing. Well this is kind of a detective work based on evidence alone, you can can never know for sure though I think the concerns are justified. It would help to do an analysis by how much Death Valley is hotter than nearby stations during heat waves and how many standard deviations this record is away from the average. |
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Post by Cadeau on Jul 31, 2020 12:01:05 GMT -5
Since clouds interfered in the middle of afternoon, the temps won't go further than earlier hours. So I'm posting now. Today's Daytime Maximum Temperatures (06-18 UTC) Paris / Orly: 39.5°C (3rd warmest day in July, 6th warmest day of all-time in recorded history) Paris / Montsouris: 39.3°C (5th warmest day in July, 8th warmest day of all-time in recorded history) / New daily high record for 31st of July - previous was 36.6°C back in 1943. Paris / CDG: 38.6°C (3rd warmest day in July, 4th warmest day of all-time in recorded history) Orly and CDG's other warmer July records were set last year.    |
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Post by Steelernation on Jul 31, 2020 13:58:35 GMT -5
Low dipped to 59 (15 c) this morning, which is only the 2nd sub-60 low this month (average July low is 61).
This snaps the 60+ streak at 25 days which is the T-11th longest such streak.
The lowest temp this month of 59 is tied for the warmest record low ever with July 1887 and 1897.
The low max of 78 is also tied for the highest ever with July 2016.
The 30 days >80 is also tied for the record high with July 2011.
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Post by ral31 on Jul 31, 2020 14:03:28 GMT -5
Some severe threat with storms this afternoon/evening and a weak cold front is approaching. A bit unusual for this time of year. After it passes, humidity and nighttime temps should be lower.
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Post by Donar on Jul 31, 2020 14:51:09 GMT -5
High was 35.3 °C at Frankfurt Airport today, not as impressive as Parfffffffffffffffffffff but hot enough to get a full-scale summery feeling.
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Post by Benfxmth on Jul 31, 2020 14:54:49 GMT -5
High was 37.8°C at CIA airport, the first triple-digit high this year over there. It was slightly cooler at my PWS, at 36.9°C, but it is still a very respectable summer's day.
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Post by Dean York (Old) on Jul 31, 2020 15:02:20 GMT -5
33.6C was the high here today. Had a thunderstorm too this evening, which was pretty decent.
Despite the thunderstorm passing over, it's still 25C at 21:01.
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Post by srfoskey on Jul 31, 2020 21:00:34 GMT -5
It was super windy today. Some of the plastic chairs on the deck were getting blown into the wall/railing, and the sand on the beach was blowing around to the point it'd hurt your legs if you were walking on the dry part of the beach.
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Post by kronan on Aug 1, 2020 12:09:31 GMT -5
  Highest and lowest temperatures in Sweden this July, as well as the most and least precipitation in absolute numbers, and lowest and highest in percentage of normal. 272mm in Jokkmokk is bonkers  The -3.3C is also the coldest july temperature in sweden since 1976. In central-western Sweden it was the coldest July since 1965 in some places. Idre Fjäll had the lowest July mean ever recorded in Svealand (8.7C, -2.7C below the 1961-90 normal) |
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Post by Ariete on Aug 1, 2020 12:17:31 GMT -5
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Post by Steelernation on Aug 1, 2020 20:13:46 GMT -5
High was a surprise 86 (30 c) today. Here’s a picture of the storm system moving in on Wednesday the 29th—looked darker and more ominous irl.  While this only produced a sprinkle here, the southern part of the county got hammered with severe storms. There was even a confirmed tornado, the first in Monroe county since 2009 and just 12-15 miles from my house! As far as exciting weather goes here, this event is very high ranking but yet another instance of “so close but so far” interesting weather events. |
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Post by jgtheone on Aug 1, 2020 23:11:41 GMT -5
God I wish that were me  |
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Post by nei on Aug 2, 2020 8:30:49 GMT -5
a lot of New England is in a drought, hope the tropical storm reaches us and drenches us. We had periods of a lot of rain from late June to mid July but spring was very dry so not enough to make up for it  yellow is abnormally dry, tan color moderate drought, orange severe drought |
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Post by Steelernation on Aug 2, 2020 19:18:41 GMT -5
Today was weirdly windy for summer. No storm, just windy. Sustained winds of 20-25 mph with gusts up to 35 mph, which is unusual for summer.
High was 86 (30 c) again. Next few days will be the coolest since June before warming back up to above average to finish the week.
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Post by Giorbanguly on Aug 2, 2020 19:22:36 GMT -5
Korea is already experiencing one of its longest monsoon seasons on record, and Seoul is forecast to have rain every single day until at least August 12th
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Post by nei on Aug 2, 2020 20:54:22 GMT -5
tornado touchdown in Sharon, MA. very weak but looks cool. the kind I'd like to see IRL
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Post by knot on Aug 3, 2020 0:08:55 GMT -5
Latest EC run going for ~ 30 cm here, and > 100 cm on the alps:  Still a respectable snowfall. |
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Post by jgtheone on Aug 3, 2020 0:24:30 GMT -5
That's getting REAL close to me! I'd suspect flurries about 10km from me based on that map, hard to tell without scale though.
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Lived:
Residence:
The -3.3C is also the coldest july temperature in sweden since 1976.
